3 year bulk

[kyjelly]

Can I do this?

And have like 10 cytogainers ED...well, maybe not that much...but you get the point.

Im about 185-190 and wanna hit 215-220

CAn I do this without roids?

[audis4]

post the diet (I'd do a very very clean bulk). Guess it kind of depends on your metabolism etc. how much fat you dont mind gaining and how much cardio you plan on doing?

[kyjelly]

Well, i dont have the diet.

I guess my main question is in how much time, without roids, could I hit 215 or so from 185....all being pretty much muscle.

[audis4]

Hard to say...If I ate very clean around 800-1000 cals over main. for me it would probly take 8-12 months...just a guess.

[1buffsob]

Being mostly muscle, without aas, and with a good diet... Anywhere from 2-20 years. It'll depend on genetics, dedication, diet, training, etc.

No one can give you a time frame brotha, or say for certain you'll be able to do it. 30lbs of lbm is a lot, even with aas.

1buffsob

[kyjelly]

haha 20 years...

yeah, making it lean will be hard, but getting there should take me, I was guessing, 2 years or so.

Im using creatine.

Maybe so SD and PP cycles here and there.

I was just gonna start stuffing my face...good food though. And hit a little higher than 215, then cut down to around 215.

Thanks for all inputs

[IBdmfkr]

To get there at a lower BF will take quite some time with or without anabolics.. To get their without having BF as a concern could be done rather quickly.

[spittin' 'n cussin']

yeah i think a lot faster than 3 years..