so confused..cut or bulk? please help me out you smart people!

[Venum]

Hey guys, currently I am just totally lost. Sometimes I want to just bulk up and put on size, but my bf right now is too high, probably like 17%. Bulking and seeing myself get fatter is really hard to handle. I can cut, but when I do I feel depressed that I am not gaining any size while lifting my ass off. I start to feel small. I was never happy with the size of my arms, so I want to bulk more, because when I cut and lose body fat I am even more unhappy with the size of them. Will a cycle of fina/test or fina/eq help me out? I know it is impossible to both lose fat and gain muscle, but will looking more hard and vascular give the illusion to myself that I am larger? I really start getting depressed when I see the other big guys at the gym and I am just trying to stay the same size to lose my stomach. I then think well winter is coming why start cutting now.

I am 24 years old, 5'11 197 lbs, like I said I think I am about 17% bf. My total calories for today was about 2,800. I have done a couple experimental cycles in the past. Just lost. headaches!!! help me out. Please! Thanks guys

[audis4]

Cut now....17% is pretty high bro, no flame. Get into the single digits then do a hella nice bulk! I'm still cutting and will start my bulk in the next month or so. It doesn't matter that it's winter, do a lean bulk in the spring time and cut again if you need to. I would recommend a very clean bulk and you will put on minimum fat.

[Venum]

Cut now....17% is pretty high bro, no flame. Get into the single digits then do a hella nice bulk! I'm still cutting and will start my bulk in the next month or so. It doesn't matter that it's winter, do a lean bulk in the spring time and cut again if you need to. I would recommend a very clean bulk and you will put on minimum fat.

any input on my idea of running a cycle of fina/eq? I have never been in the single digits, but came close. If I lower my body fat that much will I feel bigger because I am more hard and vasular? Like I said, I feel depressed in the gym when I am cutting and feeling smaller.

[Venum]

could i drop a few pounds right now, say cut for about 6 weeks, then just run an extremely clean bulk during winter instead of cutting all winter??

[thestudent]

Personally I would use the winter to bulk up. You can always do a lean bulk and then cut after pct and eliminate the fat gained on cycle(which should be minimal considering diet is on point) and then extra fat already carrying.

[Venum]

Personally I would use the winter to bulk up. You can always do a lean bulk and then cut after pct and eliminate the fat gained on cycle(which should be minimal considering diet is on point) and then extra fat already carrying.

so start my lean bulk now? about how many calories do you think I should eat during a lean bulk? keep my carbs around 300? I am sensitive to carbs. I usually eat about 6 meals a day sometimes more, getting in around 3000 calories a day almost 100% coming from quality food and protein. so far today it is 9:50am, at 7am I had 2 scoops of whey protein, and at 9:30 11 egg whites, 1 slice fat free cheese, and 1 cup of oatmeal.

[audis4]

I would:
-cut until January
-start the bulk/cycle in jan. so you will be nice and huge come spring/summer with not much fat gain from your lean clean bulk. JMO

[Venum]

what about the fina and eq i keep asking about? would that play a nice role in my cutting phase?

[audis4]

post it in the roids forum.