Pw Rice!

**Columbus** · 09-15-2006, 05:41 AM

KRISPIES! What do you think of swapping oats for a higher gi cereal like rice krisipies? I know many use rice cakes and since rice kripies have a gi of 82, do you think this would be a decent carb replacement with a whey shake? Light on the stomach esp. after heavy back or leg day...thoughts?

**UpstateTank** · 09-15-2006, 07:05 AM

id like to know the answer to this as well...thats an interesting idea

**Giants11** · 09-15-2006, 07:27 AM

Bro, I'd be fine. Stop stessin about the small stuff, usually that means that you are missing out on the bigger picture....

**Columbus** · 09-15-2006, 09:42 AM

SORRRY BRO...You are right!

**audis4** · 09-15-2006, 01:48 PM

Rice Krispies with that high of a GI, would give me one hell of a crash half way through my workout.

**usualsuspect** · 09-15-2006, 02:25 PM

Personally, I've noticied a significant improvement in my workout performance, health and overall body comp when I completely dropped the pwo shake along with any grains (rice, etc) from my diet.

Rice is just sugar to your body. Too much and the excess is converted to fat for storage with increases in triglycerides and cholesterol. Metabolically the effect is the same as a candy bar. Eat it if you choose but I'd suggest tight portion control. In the end, rice and dextrose (among other things), just put too much fat around my waist.

But again this is highly individual. Just some ideas to tinker with.

**brutesinme** · 09-15-2006, 04:29 PM

usualsuspect, i suspect that you use fruit pwo for your carb source. What fruit choices do you make (i'm looking for high glucose, low fructose fruits).

**usualsuspect** · 09-15-2006, 05:23 PM

Brute,
Sometimes I eat fruit pwo. Other times I'll have a protein and fat meal. Whatever I do, I always try to keep my body guessing (randomn variation!). And I usually try waiting at least an hour after I workout to eat.

**CoreyTampa09** · 09-15-2006, 05:34 PM

Would eating something like granola cereal with some milk as a carb source be aright if your just trying to switch it up.

**audis4** · 09-15-2006, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by CoreyTampa09

Would eating something like granola cereal with some milk as a carb source be aright if your just trying to switch it up.

your cutting aren't you? If so, no, I wouldn't.

**usualsuspect** · 09-15-2006, 05:45 PM

Not a good idea, regardless of your goals.

JMO

**timtim** · 09-15-2006, 06:14 PM

Rice is just sugar to your body.

could you please explain this more. when eaten with a lean protein source the gi of white rice is 24 and brown rice is 18. i want to make sure im making good carb decisions as oats have been it for me for a long long time thats why i ask.

**audis4** · 09-15-2006, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by timtim

could you please explain this more. when eaten with a lean protein source the gi of white rice is 24 and brown rice is 18. i want to make sure im making good carb decisions as oats have been it for me for a long long time thats why i ask.

he's talking about rice Krispies...the crappy cereal not brown/white rice.

**timtim** · 09-16-2006, 05:57 AM

thanks audi!

**Columbus** · 09-16-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by audis4

he's talking about rice Krispies...the crappy cereal not brown/white rice.

POST!! WORKOUT....not preworkout..........dextrose, rice cakes, rice, creamry rice...they all work beautifully.........

**audis4** · 09-16-2006, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Columbus

POST!! WORKOUT....not preworkout..........dextrose, rice cakes, rice, creamry rice...they all work beautifully.........

I realize that....you will still crash after your workout if not in the middle. I'm not saying don't do it....I just don't like how I respond with high GI carbs PWO.

**timtim** · 09-16-2006, 11:02 AM

dextrose, rice cakes, rice, creamry rice...they all work beautifully.........

after trying both hi and low gi carbs for pwo i can finally say there is no difference between the sources. the high gi's make me feel more bloated though.

**Columbus** · 09-16-2006, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

I realize that....you will still crash after your workout if not in the middle. I'm not saying don't do it....I just don't like how I respond with high GI carbs PWO.

I guess I am not following you dude.....how does your post workout meal make you crash in the middle of your workout? LOL......what am I missing here..? I agree, to some, a insulin spike post makes many tired soon after they consume it.. but during your next workout????????????/

Too each his own. I respond well to high gi....I am sub 7% repairing and growing.....SC appears to be the same way. Others make huge gains going the low route. To each his own. Just different options.

**audis4** · 09-16-2006, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Columbus

I guess I am not following you dude.....how does your post workout meal make you crash in the middle of your workout? LOL......what am I missing here..? I agree, to some, a insulin spike post makes many tired soon after they consume it.. but during your next workout????????????/

Too each his own. I respond well to high gi....I am sub 7% repairing and growing.....SC appears to be the same way. Others make huge gains going the low route. To each his own. Just different options.

oops, I was talking about preworkout before but my last quote I was talking about PWO. Either way I take in Low GI's....works well for me.

**JohnboyF** · 09-16-2006, 06:11 PM

Low GI pwo, audis? really.....any reasoning or what happens?

**audis4** · 09-16-2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

Low GI pwo, audis? really.....any reasoning or what happens?

yeah, Johan did a study that's fairly in depth. Try doing a search on it, I'll post it if I run across it. I know Johan, 1buff and a few other guys including myself have found low GI carbs work great PWO. It's definitely worth a shot!

**Columbus** · 09-18-2006, 09:40 AM

hmmmmmmmmmm.......

http://www.trueprotein.com/store/com...dProduct=14044

**IBdmfkr** · 09-18-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by audis4

yeah, Johan did a study that's fairly in depth. Try doing a search on it, I'll post it if I run across it. I know Johan, 1buff and a few other guys including myself have found low GI carbs work great PWO. It's definitely worth a shot!

I've tried both and actually found a mixture of the two works great..
Currently using a blend of BCAA's/maltodex/and vitargo in various percentages and then a meal 30mins after containing lean protein and higher amounts of low GI carbs.

Time of day an individual trains IMO would also make a difference on what approach they took.

**Columbus** · 09-18-2006, 11:42 AM

What time of the day do you train? How many meals do you get in after you wo? Just curious as to your approach...

**IBdmfkr** · 09-18-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Columbus

What time of the day do you train? How many meals do you get in after you wo? Just curious as to your approach...

Normally I try and do early afternoon.
I shoot for 7-8meals/day spaced 2hrs apart.

So it looks something like this:
8am - meal1
10am - meal2
12pm - meal3
2-2:30pm - meal4 (depending on how my day looks training wise).
BCAA mixture pretraining
3:30-4pm - Train
5-5:30 PWO BCAA mixture
30 min later meal 5
7:30 meal 6
9:30 meal 7
Depending on macros for the day 11pm will be Prot/Fat meal or homemade shake (1cup water, 3/4cup f/f cottage cheese, 1tbspn PB, 1/2cup eggwhites)
Occasionally wake up to piss at 3-4am and take in a casein/egg blend from trueprotein. 25g protein.

Training days matched with diet:
Sun - OFF (high carb) cardio AM
Mon - Train (med carb)
Tues - OFF (high carb) cardio AM
Wed - Train (med carb)
Thurs - OFF (high carb) cardio AM
Fri - Train (med carb)
Sat - OFF (low carb) cardio Mid-day normally.
(Just started playing with this dietary approach, so I can't give much feedback on results as of yet).