apple or banana

**seriouslifter** · 10-14-2006, 04:49 PM

whats best pre workout? I am trying to do a cutting diet. I just need some energy before workout and I have no fruit in my diet yet.

**audis4** · 10-14-2006, 04:54 PM

I would do banana....both have sugar so it really wouldn't matter as they would both refill your glycogen.

**IBdmfkr** · 10-14-2006, 05:07 PM

I wouldn't do either, when cutting I only take in carbs for Breakfast and PWO.
Otherwise it should be vegetables.
Try muhaung or NO explode if needed.

**seriouslifter** · 10-14-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

I would do banana....both have sugar so it really wouldn't matter as they would both refill your glycogen.

doesnt the banana better for post workout? that banana has a insulin spike. the apple only has 21g carbs. the banana did have more. prob not really a difference for working out.

**audis4** · 10-14-2006, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

I wouldn't do either, when cutting I only take in carbs for Breakfast and PWO.
Otherwise it should be vegetables.
Try muhaung or NO explode if needed.

I agree with I B D here...I skipped over the part of where you cutting. I was thinking you were bulking. I never ate any form of sugar while cutting and had great results. I suggest oats/whey PWO while cutting.

**seriouslifter** · 10-14-2006, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

I wouldn't do either, when cutting I only take in carbs for Breakfast and PWO.
Otherwise it should be vegetables.
Try muhaung or NO explode if needed.

so why do i have brown rice in every meal with veggies?

**seriouslifter** · 10-14-2006, 05:21 PM

Meal #1 7:45am - 2 scoops ON Whey Protein 220 2 6 48
1/2 cup oats 150 3 27 5
1 Multi pro 32x
2 Omeg 369 pills 40 4 0 0

Meal #2 10:20am - lean chicken 120 4 0 24
12 almonds 83 7 3 3

Meal #3 12:00pm - 8 egg whites 131 0 3 28
1 cup broccoli cuts 40 4 0 0
1/2 cup brown rice 150 1 33 4

Meal #4 (Preworkout) 3:00pm - 1/2 tuna can 88 2 0 19
1 banana 81 0 21 0
1 cup broccoli cuts 40 4 0 0

Post workout - 2 scoops ON Whey Protein 220 2 6 48
1 scoop ON Glycoload 210 0 50 3

Meal #5 6:00pm - lean chicken 120 4 0 24
1/2 cup brown rice 150 1 33 4
1 cup broccoli cuts 40 4 0 0
1 Multi pro 32x

Meal #6 9:00pm - lean chicken 120 4 0 24
1 cup broccoli cuts 40 4 0 0
2 Omeg 369 pills 40 4 0 0

Meal #7 (Before bed) - Syntrax Matrix 5.0 - Bedtime 120 2 3 23
1 tbsp natty pb 95 8 4 4

Totals 2499 calories 54g fat 207g carbs 316g protein

**IBdmfkr** · 10-14-2006, 05:22 PM

Fruit isn't horrible but if you must have it then take it first thing in the morning to restore liver glycogen as it mostly likely won't be stored as fat.
Doing cardio Pre-AM Meal is recommended as well.

**seriouslifter** · 10-14-2006, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

Fruit isn't horrible but if you must have it then take it first thing in the morning to restore liver glycogen as it mostly likely won't be stored as fat.
Doing cardio Pre-AM Meal is recommended as well.

so what am i having pre workout if im not eating the apple. lol why is this so complicated.

**IBdmfkr** · 10-14-2006, 05:34 PM

I like it SL.. lets move the banana to breakfast instead and do Cardio Pre-breakfast.
Then you can adjust a few things as needed as your either progress or plateau. Shoot for 1-2lbs of fatloss/wk.

Nothing Preworkout except for Leanprotein and Veggies (corn/peas/carrots).

**seriouslifter** · 10-14-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

I like it SL.. lets move the banana to breakfast instead and do Cardio Pre-breakfast.
Then you can adjust a few things as needed as your either progress or plateau. Shoot for 1-2lbs of fatloss/wk.

Nothing Preworkout except for Leanprotein and Veggies (corn/peas/carrots).

so eat banana with breakfast? I cant do cardio morning has to be after i work out.

**Columbus** · 10-15-2006, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

I wouldn't do either, when cutting I only take in carbs for Breakfast and PWO.
Otherwise it should be vegetables.
Try muhaung or NO explode if needed.

Damn....luck bastage....I get 60g post and that's it....

**IBdmfkr** · 10-15-2006, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by seriouslifter

so eat banana with breakfast? I cant do cardio morning has to be after i work out.

Why can't you do morning cardio?

You're making this fruit thing too complicated, it's not going to make that big of a difference... the rest of your diet will.

**seriouslifter** · 10-15-2006, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

Why can't you do morning cardio?

You're making this fruit thing too complicated, it's not going to make that big of a difference... the rest of your diet will.

I cant make it to the gym in the morning, have school.

**IBdmfkr** · 10-15-2006, 11:34 AM

There are many things you can do to get your heart rate up without the gym.

I like to jumprope, jog, walk, jumpingjacks, pushups, running in place etc..
This would be the ideal time to do it rather than PWO, especially if you're in a calorie depleted state, it could be catabolic to do it PWO instead of in the AM depending on the intensity of your workouts.
Me personally, if I do it AM and then lift that day it's like getting two cardio sessions in for the day because with HIT training your heartrate says in the fatburning zone.