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    Olive oil vs Flaxseed oil and other fat-loss questions

    Hi all,
    I have recently started my expedition to cut down fat, without loosing too much of muscle (eventually gaining some in 6 month plan). Every other cutting diet mentions Flaxseed oil and I am not able to find in local grocery stores.
    Q1..I wanted to know whether Olive oil can be considered as complete replacement of flaxseed oil?

    By the way I am 28.5 yo, 5'8" , 158 lbs.. weighing scale says I have 17.5% fat.
    Though I doubt it might be more, as most of my fat is around my waistline and in the ugly pot-belly hanging in front.. arms/legs and other part of the body are pretty lean (I can feel the difference in skin folds, much thinner from what I have around waist).

    Q2. I am in a fix, whether I should try gaining lean mass first and then go for cutting Or, first flatten stomach & loose fat and then go for lean muscle gain
    OR should I try to achieve both goals simultaneously..

    my target for 6 months is to have:
    1. flat stomach (not dreaming abs for now, given that I have a 8-10 hrs computer job).
    2. ~10% body fat.
    3. stick around 72-75 kg (158--165 lbs)weight.

    given my work place commitments, I am finding it tough to maintain 6 meals concept.. and dont have access to many of the good-foods..
    can someone help me with making a diet plan (4-5 meals)..
    ( i get to work out around 7-8 pm for 1- 1.5 hrs.. can try pushing it to 6:15 -6:30am)

    the so called good food materials I have daily access to are dont care about taste)...( I have scanned my nearby grocery stores, and spent hours to arrive at following)..

    0.5% fat milk.
    oatmeal. (white oats)..
    tofu, cottage-cheese
    eggs.. chicken breast & full chicken ( i have a taste for boiled chicken with some salt).
    whole-wheat bread.
    whey protein ( 20 gm whey per 25g serving)
    canned juices ( no added sugar).
    olive oil, sunflower oil, cod-liver oil capsules..
    corn-flakes...
    beans (soybean, kidneybean, mothbean, chickpeas.. + many lentils common in indian diets..these I can have in early morning breakfast boiled..only iff I workout in the evening..)
    dry-fruits (almonds etc).
    + any other common food items I might have missed and can be available with high probability at any grocery store..

    I am at work place from 9am-6:30pm and the only food I have access to are, sandwiches (white-bread) and mix-vegetable-salads, juices, indian-breads.. I can try carrying some boiled eggs and/or protein shakes.

    also as for work out plan, i intend to do weights on mon-wed-fri (with 15 minutes cardio). and 45 minutes cardio on tue-thurs-sat.. sunday rest..

    Thanks a bunch,
    Akshay

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    They arn'et the same. While both are healthy fats, Olive oil is rich in ***** 6's, while flax is rich in ***** 3's.

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    Best bet it to get Udo's oil or something sililar.

    Which contains, a balance of all 3, 3-6-9.
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    how do weighing scales test your bodyfat?

    i know they make some that do but how? and are they accurate?

    they have a hand held one at my gym and the guy is like dont use that its not accurate at all

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    There is no way a scale can determine your BF.

    It ain't that easy.
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    no hyjacking but on this oil topic, how would u rate the oils pb vs flax vs fish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbus
    no hyjacking but on this oil topic, how would u rate the oils pb vs flax vs fish?

    PB is just O/m/e/g/a 6's.

    Flax and Fish contain higher concentration O/m/e/g/a 3's. The main difference is that fish oil contains EPA while flax needs to be converted. The actual amount that can be converted however is unknown.
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    roger.....so optimally, use all three.....pb and flax with chicken is gooood....fish oil tabs only.....

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    I personally use Udo's oil blend and just eat low fat meals.This way I am hoping to get the correct ratio of fats in on a daily basis.I take in 30 gms per day.That cost me $24.00 per week on oil

    One of the main reasons I think that supplementing with it is worthwhile is that ***** 3's are shown to inhibit inflammation.Dr.Barry Sears of "Zone Diet" fame wrote a book on just fish oil called the "***** Zone".

    He claims that the worse your health is the more ***** 3's you need.All the benefits are due to the anti-inflamatory effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squatman51
    how do weighing scales test your bodyfat?

    i know they make some that do but how? and are they accurate?

    they have a hand held one at my gym and the guy is like dont use that its not accurate at all
    Electrical impedance. Sends an electric signal through the body. Lean mass is a conductor, bodyfat slows the signal down=somehow reads your bodymass. They arne't accurate, too many variables invovled such as hydration level (water is a conductor as well).

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    Thanks everyone.
    Any other oil combinations can I make at home ( like sunflower+olive ?).

    would love to try Udo's oil mix, but I doubt if I can get it here in India ( cant even find flaxseed oil), even if it is delivered internationally, it will be too costly.. i would rather try finding flaxseed elsewhere and mix it with olive oil..

    also any one willing to spare some time to help me with a diet plan with limited raw materials I have access to?

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    What food are you limited too, or should I ask what food don't you have access to?

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    as it was in my original post..

    0.5% fat milk.
    oatmeal. (white oats)..
    tofu, cottage-cheese
    eggs.. chicken breast & full chicken ( i have a taste for boiled chicken with some salt).
    whole-wheat bread.
    whey protein ( 20 gm whey per 25g serving)
    canned juices ( no added sugar).
    olive oil, sunflower oil, cod-liver oil capsules..
    corn-flakes...
    beans (soybean, kidneybean, mothbean, chickpeas.. + many lentils common in indian diets..these I can have in early morning breakfast boiled..only iff I workout in the evening..)
    dry-fruits (almonds etc).
    + any other common food items I might have missed and can be available with high probability at any grocery store..

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    and actually i shud have mentioned that, i dont have access to red-meat and flaxseed, tuna-fish and popular-brand food suppliments.. otherwise I can get pretty much everything else..

    also its extremely tough for me to manage 6 meals a day, its the office place where I have very limited choices...


    any help is much appreciated..

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    what do u limited choice? can you bring food from home?

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