Starvation

[vlad_xp]

Gys;
What will happen if I don't eat at all?
Only a protein shake after workout and creatine (5-7gr /day) ; complete vitamins pill (the list is long) for men.
Will I lose all of my fat ? (i'm 24% if I believe my electronic scale)

I drink 1.5 Liters of water dayly also.

[JC2007]

Gys;
What will happen if I don't eat at all?
Only a protein shake after workout and creatine (5-7gr /day) ; complete vitamins pill (the list is long) for men.
Will I lose all of my fat ? (i'm 24% if I believe my electronic scale)

I drink 1.5 Liters of water dayly also.

Are you serious? You will have no energy, lose any muscle mass you have, not be able to function efficiently - an unbelievably stupid idea altogether.

Look at the cutting sticky and construct a diet and take the fat off the real way like a man instead of looking for easy ways out.

Stop being such a lazy ass. If you want to change your life then change your life but do it properly. Not drug consumption and starvation. Do cardio every morning for an hour on an empty stomach. Try that for two months straight after constructing a diet and see how much weight you've lost.

PS - Why are you taking creatine when you're trying to lose weight? All that will do is add water weight.

[vlad_xp]

Creatine to keep as mutch muscle as I can
At the same time I'm doing alot of cardio every morning on empty stomack and doing push - ups , sit - ups, and I lift : benchpress , biceps, triceps, abs abs abs abs!

Any ideas what is the worst and the best that could happen?

[vlad_xp]

someone?

[perfectbeast2001]

ridiculous idea. Too many bad consequences to list.

[StoneGRMI]

Your body will shut down.

[goose]

Hey newb Im going to post here as poeple have dies doing this.To understand a starvation diet we need to look at what we are doing to our body when if we decide not to eat at all for a few days. First of all our bodies will think that we are just between meals and our body will start to use up blood sugar and then start burning up carbs until they are gone. Once we have run out of carbs our body should use fat and muscle tissue for energy but instead will start to lower our metabolism in a fight to protect our bodies…this is the starvation phase. Eventually if we did not eat our bodies would start to burn off our fat and muscle and our metabolism would slow to a point where we would become very lethargic and our organs would start to slow down and eventually shut down and we would die. There are not many people that would go this far bad as we see in people with bulimia this definitely does happen sometimes.

[vlad_xp]

Your body will shut down.

Some more details? What exactly will shut down?
Will I lose this fat quickly ? I am willing to eat as soon as I lose it.
And I will go little by little.
I heard that starvation for 1 month never hirt anyone with MY stats.
I will lose alot of muscle , yes . And alot of fat.. yes?
I am willing to do this for 2 weeks.

[vlad_xp]

Hey newb Im going to post here as poeple have dies doing this.To understand a starvation diet we need to look at what we are doing to our body when if we decide not to eat at all for a few days. First of all our bodies will think that we are just between meals and our body will start to use up blood sugar and then start burning up carbs until they are gone. Once we have run out of carbs our body should use fat and muscle tissue for energy but instead will start to lower our metabolism in a fight to protect our bodies…this is the starvation phase. Eventually if we did not eat our bodies would start to burn off our fat and muscle and our metabolism would slow to a point where we would become very lethargic and our organs would start to slow down and eventually shut down and we would die. There are not many people that would go this far bad as we see in people with bulimia this definitely does happen sometimes.

Thanks Goose.
Since i'm here for a couple of months every day for like 1 hour , I'm not a newb. I just became |stupid| and ***ressed, and am willing to lose all of this fat. I certainly know you Goose , I read your posts every day.
I learned alot of things here about AAS ; now i'm trying to collect as mutch info as possible about my case and figure out if it's worth to do what I do.
Anyone please post your comments.

[goose]

You sound like one sick guy.Look just run DNP at 250mg with T3 until you get the results you want.Very quick and safer????

[perfectbeast2001]

why dont you run a decent cutting diet?? With good diet I can drop fat easily and quickly and i am an ex fatty myself. Why the need for extreme measures??

[goose]

why dont you run a decent cutting diet?? With good diet I can drop fat easily and quickly and i am an ex fatty myself. Why the need for extreme measures??

I would listen to this guy...Not me

You have lots of better options.

[JC2007]

Thanks Goose.
Since i'm here for a couple of months every day for like 1 hour , I'm not a newb. I just became |stupid| and ***ressed, and am willing to lose all of this fat. I certainly know you Goose , I read your posts every day.
I learned alot of things here about AAS ; now i'm trying to collect as mutch info as possible about my case and figure out if it's worth to do what I do.
Anyone please post your comments.

I REPEAT:

Stop being such a lazy ass. If you want to change your life then change your life but do it properly. Not drug consumption and starvation. Do cardio every morning for an hour on an empty stomach. Try that for two months straight after constructing a diet and see how much weight you've lost.

So... construct a diet and post it for evaluation and include what you're supposed to include.

[vlad_xp]

thanks for all the replys fellas.
One more thing. Is creatine usefull here? is it goint to make me keep that fat?

[JC2007]

thanks for all the replys fellas.
One more thing. Is creatine usefull here? is it goint to make me keep that fat?

It'll add water weight as I already said. Fat loss is ***endent on diet and cardio.

[vlad_xp]

It'll add water weight as I already said. Fat loss is ***endent on diet and cardio.

I'm not dumb man. I understood your reply.
My question , after reading your post, was :
OK! I WILL HAVE WATER WEIGHT! is it GOOD weight ? (muscle) or is it bad weight ? (fat)

[StoneGRMI]

I'm not dumb man. I understood your reply.
My question , after reading your post, was :
OK! I WILL HAVE WATER WEIGHT! is it GOOD weight ? (muscle) or is it bad weight ? (fat)

??? Neither, it's WATER weight. As in, your body will carry MORE water.

[vlad_xp]

I just want to ask you a quick question concerning the reply you posted .
You said that I will have more water weight ... And you said that it means that I will have more water in my body...
But where is this water will be stored for god's sake????? It wont be in my stomach, im sure...
Will it be stored in my muscles? body fat ? organs?
That's what I want to understand.

[max2extreme]

Your body is made up mostly of water, its all over, and thus you'll add water all over.

[TR'05]

Hall of shame?

[vlad_xp]

Hall of shame?

I guess...
I've done this because of the breakup with my GF and thaught life was crap.
I'm gonna stop soon

[JC2007]

Hall of shame?

Right at the top of it!

[JC2007]

I guess...
I've done this because of the breakup with my GF and thaught life was crap.
I'm gonna stop soon

Okay, you broke up with your girlfriend. You're not the only one in history. There's millions of women around, go get a new one. If you think your life is crap then change it for the better instead of turning to drugs and wallowing around in self-pity.

[vlad_xp]

Okay, you broke up with your girlfriend. You're not the only one in history. There's millions of women around, go get a new one. If you think your life is crap then change it for the better instead of turning to drugs and wallowing around in self-pity.

YEah...
I will

[taiboxa]

I JUST GOT DUMPED! by a chick who isnt even in my league! (ass backwards ordeal if u ask me) but im still kickin.. kinda..

anyways for the whole starvation diet idea.. not good.. once body starts to STARVE it stops burning fat for fuel and burns MUSCLE so basically ur just going to look fatter than before

[vlad_xp]

I JUST GOT DUMPED! by a chick who isnt even in my league! (ass backwards ordeal if u ask me) but im still kickin.. kinda..

anyways for the whole starvation diet idea.. not good.. once body starts to STARVE it stops burning fat for fuel and burns MUSCLE so basically ur just going to look fatter than before

Oh crap..
Even if I train like an animal ?
And do cardio ?

[StoneGRMI]

Oh crap..
Even if I train like an animal ?
And do cardio ?

YES, even if you train hard and do a lot of cardio. You'll be skinny fat guy. EAT SOME FOOD. NO STARVING. NO STARVING. NO STARVING.

[JC2007]

Oh crap..
Even if I train like an animal ?
And do cardio ?

Have you started constructing a diet yet so we can help you further?

[GGallin]

Oh my god this is the dumbest post ever. For one creatine and a protien shake every day will not make you retain muscle while losing weight. Also by not eating and lifting will most likely make you pull and or tear muscles. I stopped eating very much the last time I tried cutting down my weight and I pulled a muscle in my back puting me out of comission for almost a month and I got lucky to not tear a muscle. Dont be stupid which is what you are being. Any one who knows anything about dieting knows that if you eat several small meals a day you will raise you metabolism and thus lose weight. That combined with cardio and exercise will make you really lose weight. And when I say several small meals IE 5-6 meals, I dont mean potato chips and cheese burgers I mean chicken oats veggies etc. If you want to try your way then go ahead but you will lose in the end, crash diets ALWAYS fail, I am living proof. I am not a diet expert but when I read this post......well get real dude seriously.

[305GUY]

you probably have little to no muscle as it is if your considering a "starvation" diet.. so if muscle loss is not a problem, run a strict keto diet til you reach your goal (atleast 30 days than start carb cycling).. your body will hold as much fat as possible on a starvation diet so a keto diet will not only be healthier for you then starving yourself but itll work faster too! Also a.m cardio on an empty stomach 5-7 times a week, as well as light cardio PWO is a must.. NOW MAN UP, GET OVER THAT SILLY BITCH, AND GET IN SHAPE FOR YOURSELFNOT HER!!.

BTW your electronic scale is WRONG... go get a accurate measurement.

[Rugger4308]

If you want to loose weight your just going to have to eat PROPERLY and excercise with lots of cardio. Using starvation is just stupid, your metabolism will pretty much go to a crawl. Not to mention have no energy and be very unhealthy. Also why would you want to do creatine when it seams like the only thing you care about is loosing weight. How do you think your going to have energy to do all this cardio and train like an animal when you are not eating??????

[vlad_xp]

If you want to loose weight your just going to have to eat PROPERLY and excercise with lots of cardio. Using starvation is just stupid, your metabolism will pretty much go to a crawl. Not to mention have no energy and be very unhealthy. Also why would you want to do creatine when it seams like the only thing you care about is loosing weight. How do you think your going to have energy to do all this cardio and train like an animal when you are not eating??????

As I said.
I'm doing sereous drugs (speed) to be able to move alot. AND I'M MOVING LIKE HELL

[IBdmfkr]

I call for an IP check for Columbus and this guy?

[vlad_xp]

I call for an IP check for Columbus and this guy?

I'm not DISCUSSING recreational drugs. I MENTION that I use them... As many other ppl saying on this forums that they do Ganja;

I thaught it would be useful to mention it.


I**mfkr I know the rules.

[PeteyK]

Dont listen to them!! I ate nothing but protien shakes and vitamens 3 times a day for a month and my bf went from 30% to 5% and i gained 20 lbs of muscle!

[JC2007]

I'm not DISCUSSING recreational drugs. I MENTION that I use them... As many other ppl saying on this forums that they do Ganja;

I thaught it would be useful to mention it.


I**mfkr I know the rules.

Learn to spell "thought" properly....

You probably are Columbus but regardless... get off the rec drugs if you are actually serious about changing your physique.

We're also waiting for you to post a diet so get on it or stop wasting our time.

[JC2007]

Dont listen to them!! I ate nothing but protien shakes and vitamens 3 times a day for a month and my bf went from 30% to 5% and i gained 20 lbs of muscle!

[taiboxa]

Dont listen to them!! I ate nothing but protien shakes and vitamens 3 times a day for a month and my bf went from 30% to 5% and i gained 20 lbs of muscle!

come on.. the guy has issues atleast try to be helpful

[Patches24]

I'm starting to suspect that you might be somebody who does know about safe diets, but is just doing this as a joke. If that's the case: too much free time.

But if you're not joking:

Just in case you doubt the good advice in this thread, thought I would weigh in as somebody who has been on something like the dietary plan you have suggested.

I can be a very, very slow learner in some ways. Not proud of having done this at all.

Here is what happened to me:

- body feels like it is quitting entirely sometime within first or second day
- mind adopts a sort of dull, brain dead quality within same time frame
- human interactions all suffer, people find me distant, vacant, lifeless
- doing ordinary tasks of life, work, school, reading becomes very difficult
- physical pain and aches in back, shoulders, eventually all over
- pretty much no way you can stay on this for more than a few days
- it is true your bodyweight would fall, would lose some bodyfat, but that is useless because you want long term results and this is something you cant do for more than a few days

When you say your body can handle a month or maybe two weeks of this, you might not die, but I think you will feel like you have, and unless you have some sort of superhuman mental determination you would wisely quit this diet. Or you would pass out and somebody would put some carbohydrates into your system at the hospital, violating the diet plan.

The creatine would be a waste of money because your muscles will not really recover from any workouts anyway, there is no chance to be recovering even better than before, if you are not recovering at all. At least that is my reasoning.

Personally I would quit the stimulants.

What I would recommend is kinda like the sticky cutting thread on this board, except for a few things. I dont think you need as much protein or food in general as it says. I do not think a high calorie insulin spiking meal after workout is as essential as it says. I don't do insulin spikes at all any more. I don't think cheat meals are essential like it says. I don't plan for them at all.

Doing cardio daily or almost daily is good. Not trying to take the carb intake super low is good. Complex, low glycemic carbs are good. Spreading out food intake into 6 or more feedings per day is good. Some protein at each feeding is good. Some weight training, appropriate to your training experience is good in addition to the cardio. So I'd pretty much do that stuff, measure progress numerically and visually, and then tweak the amounts of food as you go so that bodyfat goes down gradually. There's a lot of other good advice and options I'm sure you can pick up by reading the threads here, others know more than I do.

Sorry to be long-winded, but as I have personal experience, just thought I'd try to be helpful.

[PeteyK]

come on.. the guy has issues atleast try to be helpful

sry, i feel like an a$$hole now