Eggs-raw or cooked?

[Visu]

Hello!Every morning i start my day with 10 raw egg whites.I love them this way and it saves time.My question is:wich way i get the maximum amount of protein?Raw or cooked?i thought that raw is the best way,due to the lack of protein degradation caused by cooking.I also heard an opinion wich states that raw eggs are not entirely digested so you get little protein.wich one is it?Thanks in advance!
P.S.:No,i'm not afraid of Salmonella!

[juicy_brucy]

raw would mean that they are not denatured by heat. Possibly offering more bio-availability. I have drank raw eggs before. I am not a fan of the texture of raw eggs.

[domeyeahaigh]

would it really make a difference either way?

[B.E.N.]

In order to get the nutritional value that you what (protein) from the eggs you must cook it. Eggs have an extremely high biological value...they are considering the 'measuring stick' for proteins.

[Braunstein]

In order to get the nutritional value that you what (protein) from the eggs you must cook it.

[juicy_brucy]

In order to get the nutritional value that you what (protein) from the eggs you must cook it.

So raw eggs offer no protein? Is that what you are saying?

[mick-g]

Some ppl say eating the whites raw will not be digested, yet i have not read any evidence to support this. I have also heard that eating the whites with the yolks can decrease biotin, causing dry skin or brittle hair. Sill i have seen no evidence to support this either. I do both, cook and then i will put about 6 whites raw in a blender with 1/4 water and 1/4 rice milk then put in 2 scoops of pure whey isolate, blend and drink. You will not even notice them in there, and i never had dry skin or brittle hair.

[domeyeahaigh]

I read something in the May 2007 issue of mens health last night that did not specifically talk about eggs. It did however say that heat will destroy vitamins and nutrients while you cook, so if that answers any questions.

[B.E.N.]

So raw eggs offer no protein? Is that what you are saying?

Laugh all you want...say what you will. You digest more protein when the egg is cooked.

I hate to bring out the 'my dad said so' card but you backed me into a corner. My father is a food scientist, works for one of NA largest food distributors, blah blah...

I never said you would not get ANY protein from a raw egg. I said in order to get the protein you want you need to cook the egg.

It takes 8 minutes to boil water and let the eggs cook...what is the big deal? It takes me longer to mix protein, BCAA, and flaxseed!

[domeyeahaigh]

Actually, any way you cook, food's going to lose nutrients since vitamins are sensitive to heat (hence the appeal of the raw food diet). The longer and hotter you cook food, the more nutrients it'll lose.

[domeyeahaigh]

Protein has a life as well, though admittedly it takes a lot of over-cooking to destroy it’s nutritional value. The hard lacy edges of a fried egg don’t get you anything. While the right amount of cooking makes protein easier to digest, over-cooking does just the opposite. “Protein can become indigestible with overcooking,”


basically, dont burn your shit and your fine.

[holden]

Laugh all you want...say what you will. You digest more protein when the egg is cooked.

I hate to bring out the 'my dad said so' card but you backed me into a corner. My father is a food scientist, works for one of NA largest food distributors, blah blah...

I never said you would not get ANY protein from a raw egg. I said in order to get the protein you want you need to cook the egg.

It takes 8 minutes to boil water and let the eggs cook...what is the big deal? It takes me longer to mix protein, BCAA, and flaxseed!

This is completely wrong, raw egg whites are 100% bio-available protein. Which means It is the only form of protein which is absorbed instantly by your body, it is the perfect post-workout addtion to shake!

A lot of professional supplement suppliers have something called "Liquid Egg Whites" available to purchase in litre bottles.. I recommend everybody getting some.

As for salmonella, this is mainly on the egg shell of an egg, and not inside the contents of the egg itself, unless the egg comes into contact with the outer shell, it is perfectly edible.

Egg Whites have NO fat, NO cholesterol, and NO trans fats (bad fats)!

[juicy_brucy]

I am not laugh ing at you. What would suggest that? I merely asked you a question.

Laugh all you want...say what you will. You digest more protein when the egg is cooked.

I hate to bring out the 'my dad said so' card but you backed me into a corner. My father is a food scientist, works for one of NA largest food distributors, blah blah...

I never said you would not get ANY protein from a raw egg. I said in order to get the protein you want you need to cook the egg.

It takes 8 minutes to boil water and let the eggs cook...what is the big deal? It takes me longer to mix protein, BCAA, and flaxseed!

[B.E.N.]

This is completely wrong, raw egg whites are 100% bio-available protein. Which means It is the only form of protein which is absorbed instantly by your body, it is the perfect post-workout addtion to shake!

A lot of professional supplement suppliers have something called "Liquid Egg Whites" available to purchase in litre bottles.. I recommend everybody getting some.

As for salmonella, this is mainly on the egg shell of an egg, and not inside the contents of the egg itself, unless the egg comes into contact with the outer shell, it is perfectly edible.

Egg Whites have NO fat, NO cholesterol, and NO trans fats (bad fats)!

You are incorrect. You may have been told or even read an advertisement saying something about egg whites being 100% bioavailable. If no one believes me then do some real research (besides typing 'raw egg whites' in Google) and you will find out the truth. The egg white is meant to protect the yoke in nature and acts as a anti-baterial barrier in nature. I am not a scientist by trade but if you require written explanation of why the RAW egg white is not the best source of protein you claim it then I am happy to get this and provide it at length.

Here is one study to get your research off to a good start.
Evenepoel, P., Geypens, B., Luypaerts, A., Hiele, M., Ghoos, Y., & Rutgeerts, P. (1998). Digestibility of Cooked and Raw Egg Protein in Humans as Assessed by Stable Isotope Techniques. The Journal of Nutrition, 128 (10), 1716-1722

Study states...raw eggs are only 51% bio-available, whereas a cooked egg is nearer 91% bio-available, meaning the protein of cooked eggs is nearly twice as absorbable as the protein from raw eggs.

Your assertion that 'professional supplement suppliers' have a product with raw egg is incorrect as well. All 'EGG WHITE' products are COOKED!!!!

Ex. of an advertisement with company name withheld - 100% pure liquid egg whites from -----, are cooked, and yet kept in a liquid state. They are heat pasteurized and salmonella tested. The pasteurization process heats the egg white to 134 degrees for 31/2 minutes. This proper temperature kills the salmonella and neutralizes the Avidin without damaging the protein, to allow the egg white to be digested safely by the human body.

When you cook an egg white to the point of scrambled eggs, 150 degrees or more, you are overcooking the protein and denaturing the true value of the protein. Therefore, ----- are “liquid” but not “raw”, making them the purest and most versatile form of protein, known to man, In The Entire World!

[B.E.N.]

I am not laugh ing at you. What would suggest that? I merely asked you a question.

Sorry...I am getting a little defensive...but I know I am right.

This topic is another hard to kill myth.

[B.E.N.]

And holden...you were wrong in your first sentence. There is no 100% bioavailable protein anyway. Eggs, whoever, are used as the measuring stick for all other proteins.

[Braunstein]

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/128/10/1716

[holden]

Im talking about liquid egg whites, not raw egg whites.

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/mp%2Dmax/...2Dwhites%2D1l/

[holden]

egg whites arent cooked, they are pasteurized

[B.E.N.]

egg whites arent cooked, they are pasteurized

Do you know what pasteurization is???? It means the eggs are heat treated.

Give it a rest...hard boil your damn eggs if you want to see more protein out of them. I hardboil two dozen on Sunday night, put them in the carton and fridge. Separate the whites or eat a yoke or two. That is one of the simplest meals you can make for training. And they travel well...

[rodosman]

I must agree with BEN on this one. I have experimented with raw eggs in the past. All I can say is 12 egg whites cooked are digested much better than 12 egg whites raw, in my body at least.

[BITTAPART2]

so are we saying that " heat pasteurized " eggs are essentially heated and already cooked? b/c I drink the hell out of egg whites that have been pasteurized first and seem to work fine for me. it is just getting used to them it takes a bout a week to be able to keeop them in you w/o shitting them out all day. I drink a box in 15 seconds and get about 20 egg whites in that

[Tip]

B.E.N. is right. I posted this a month or so ago. in addition to pasteurization cooking your eggs will help break down the peptide bonds that hold egg protein together increasing the bio-availibility of the ingested protein.

[holden]

I still read different.. that simply pasteurizing (heating past 60 degrees) the egg whites creates a 100% bio-available protein :S

Buts its still in liquid egg white form.

But ye I understand raw eggs are no good, dont touch that shit =)