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    No body has given any real answers!!!DIET

    Im 6''1 120 pounds absolutely cant gain..... i have increased my calories at least 750 a day i can estimate i eat around 2300.......I eat Almonds,bananas,oranges,drink milk,frosted miniwheats, regular pasta, yogurt, Subs, philly cheese steaks watever i can fit in my day.... I try to keep it pretty healthy as i can. but that doesnt matter i dont care if im putting on muscle or fat IT DONT MATTER I JUST WANT TO GAIN, Im going broke at the grocery store i dont know what else i can do!!!! its seems like i just poop more and bigger sorry thats gotta sound grose but i need help. Im going to my family doctor to discuss my metabolism is there anything else i can ask or discuss with him,,,,better yet any ideas or people like me out there!!! I always get a couple post's then no one ever really gives usefull advice to my situation!!! HELP

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    hold ur poop in for as long as u can

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    hold ur poop in for as long as u can
    seriously... wtf.

    Try a weight gainer, some of those have upwards of 2k calories per serving...

    Check out the sticky at the top of the page "so you want to learn to diet" muriloninja posted it. VERY helpful information in those vids. He explains how to diet, to either gain weight, or lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjpatrick1987 View Post
    Im 6''1 120 pounds absolutely cant gain..... i have increased my calories at least 750 a day i can estimate i eat around 2300.......I eat Almonds,bananas,oranges,drink milk,frosted miniwheats, regular pasta, yogurt, Subs, philly cheese steaks watever i can fit in my day.... I try to keep it pretty healthy as i can. but that doesnt matter i dont care if im putting on muscle or fat IT DONT MATTER I JUST WANT TO GAIN, Im going broke at the grocery store i dont know what else i can do!!!! its seems like i just poop more and bigger sorry thats gotta sound grose but i need help. Im going to my family doctor to discuss my metabolism is there anything else i can ask or discuss with him,,,,better yet any ideas or people like me out there!!! I always get a couple post's then no one ever really gives usefull advice to my situation!!! HELP
    Sounds like you might be trying too hard to keep it healthy. Eat ice cream and all the mickey D's you can!

    how much are you sleeping?

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    http://http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/

    Here is a good calculator for bulking and cutting. Its a pretty detailed spreadsheet
    Last edited by im83931; 01-31-2008 at 11:26 AM. Reason: edited link

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    I just plugged in your stats top the spreadsheet (guessed age at 20) and 2300 calories is too low for bulking.

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    Thanks for the link, it's a cool spreadsheet.


    Quote Originally Posted by im83931 View Post
    http://http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/

    Here is a good calculator for bulking and cutting. Its a pretty detailed spreadsheet

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    Should i add whey protein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjpatrick1987 View Post
    Im 6''1 120 pounds absolutely cant gain..... i have increased my calories at least 750 a day i can estimate i eat around 2300.......I eat Almonds,bananas,oranges,drink milk,frosted miniwheats, regular pasta, yogurt, Subs, philly cheese steaks watever i can fit in my day.... I try to keep it pretty healthy as i can. but that doesnt matter i dont care if im putting on muscle or fat IT DONT MATTER I JUST WANT TO GAIN, Im going broke at the grocery store i dont know what else i can do!!!! its seems like i just poop more and bigger sorry thats gotta sound grose but i need help. Im going to my family doctor to discuss my metabolism is there anything else i can ask or discuss with him,,,,better yet any ideas or people like me out there!!! I always get a couple post's then no one ever really gives usefull advice to my situation!!! HELP

    Your going broke eating 2300 calories a day from frosted miniwheats, subs, pasta, milk, fruits,,???? if you ever eat a bodybuilding diet you would be in debt for life!!!

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    You should try eating one of those 3 lb bags of chicken breasts from the grocery store EVERY DAY. There is about 250 grams of protein per bag.

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    i would be willing to bet your body would burn more than 2300 per day if you were sitting on the couch all day...you need to eat more...

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    ok. first of all you want help... there are diet stickys at the top of the diet section that you clearly haven't looked at. WHERE IS YOUR PROTEIN???? what kind of lean meat are you eating? none? because it sure looks like it. forget the mini wheats and pasta and subs and eat a cup of oats and a couple chicken breasts for a few of your meals a day.

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    i put your info in that spreadsheet and at age 25 (we are missing this piece of the puzzle) you have to be over 2700 if you do anything remotely close to exercise; if you are working out regularly it is more like 3-3500...and you definitely need more protein...

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    2300 calories a joke...

    If u wanna grow, u need to work at it!
    6,000 Calories lets go get to it!

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    ok ok i get it but, i am a full time college student that works at a pizza shop....not exactly rich and in the pass week i have manage to eat about 1000 calories a meal...for 3 meals, with plenty of snacks inbetween (example of my snacks would be granola bar,apple sauce,yogurt) im getting my vitamins i just have trouble getting my protein because i am always on the run and it takes time to cook which is why i asked about whey protein (60$$$ Ill sell my soul) I really want this though so i will sacrafice the money. but even since i started the whole diet(1 month) thing i havent gain literally 1 pound and have now increased from 2300 to 3000 calories a day or sometimes more. before i even started the diet i was prolly only eating around 1800.. I need go to the doctors and get my thyroid checked if you ask me...im not looking for immediate results but i think by using common sense i woulda gained at least 1 pound.

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    ***quit finding excuses for your lack of commitment.*** i am a BACS too (broke ass college student) and i make due with oats, chicken, and tuna for weeks. it sucks but IF YOU REALLY WANT IT all you have to do is cook a bag of chicken and bring it with you and put it in the fridge. bring along some fresh fruit and veggies and there you go. every break you get eat some.

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    First off, an angry title like that will not encourage the more experienced members to help you out.

    Secondly, your petulance should be directed at your own efforts, not the supposed lack of attempt to aid you by other members.

    You can read as many replies as you want, but the only answer you need is this:
    You are simply not eating enough

    2.5k cals is about right for mr average. Shoot for 5-6k quality cals and your problem will have disappeared.

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    you wonder why you are not growing eating 2300 cals of crap. Seriously you need to educate yourself. This is basic maths and common sense mate. You are eating less cals than your body needs. Yiu will NEVER gain eating that low in cals. I cut on more cals than that.
    Go buy some decent wholefoods. Chicken frozen breasts, frozen white fish fillets, Brown rice, oats, eggs and some flax oil. This will be cheaper than the current processed rubbish you are eating. Shoot for 4000cals clean and work from there. If you are not gaining add another 200 cals and keep doing that till you do gain.

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    Ok geez people i appreciate the help cuz thats what i am looking for......but my title is not angry. i apologized to those who mis interpretted ..i have finally maid a diet containing 3500 plus whey protein brings it around 4000....I have started lifting heavy weights and no cardio at all.... i actually maxed out at 125 which is five pounds over my weight and it is the first day.... i know LAugh but i was surprised i could even do that LoL... i have to add in flax oil but could someone clarify what flax oil is and what it does ??? some of those internet definitions vary

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    Are you seriously saying that you googled flaxseed oil and got no good information? I would just eat peanut butter instead.

    Tuna, oatmeal and peanut butter are dirt cheap. Skip shakes.

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    you need to post your diet. 3500 calories doesn't mean anything without your foods. because looking at your previous diet 3500 calories is going to come from junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWyvern View Post
    Are you seriously saying that you googled flaxseed oil and got no good information? I would just eat peanut butter instead.

    Tuna, oatmeal and peanut butter are dirt cheap. Skip shakes.
    I wouldn't like to go without flaxseed oil.

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    simple bump it to 4000+ cals of whatever you want (your so thin it doesnt matter what the heck you eat) try weight gainer + whey protien in one shake 3 times a day along with your meals and come back and tell me your not getting that 4000 cals in

    I was 6'3 165lbs when I started Ive gained 40 lbs in about 3.5-4 years

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    oh and lift some weights

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    breakfast (smallest meal)
    Bannana
    english muffin with peanut butter
    200 cal. granola bar
    180 cal.milk n cereal (cheerio"s,this is healthy i made sure to check it)
    200 cal.2 glasses of OJ I do all this while driving.

    Mid-lunch
    180 cal. yogurt
    50 cal. applesauce
    4 oz. chicken w/cheese
    400 cal. whey protein shake

    Lunch
    200 Cal granola
    500 Cal peporoni and Provolone chees sub (Huge) Or Philly Cheese Steak
    2 glass of milk
    180 cal. 1 serving almonds

    Dinner
    Whatever MoMMy cooks lol Mostly is a big protein source and i eat!!!
    1 glass of milk
    400. cal whey protein shake

    Night time Snacks

    180 cal yogurt
    frosted mini wheats
    beef O roni's (chef boy r D).
    Ice cream
    apple sauce
    almonds

    please be gentle

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    you eat cereal while driving lol

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    What is in your 400 cal shake? Is it 100 grams protein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjpatrick1987 View Post
    breakfast (smallest meal)
    Bannana
    english muffin with peanut butter
    200 cal. granola bar
    180 cal.milk n cereal (cheerio"s,this is healthy i made sure to check it)
    200 cal.2 glasses of OJ I do all this while driving.
    NEED TO PUT SOME KIND OF PROTEIN IN THERE
    Mid-lunch
    180 cal. yogurt
    50 cal. applesauce
    4 oz. chicken w/cheese
    400 cal. whey protein shake

    Lunch
    200 Cal granola
    500 Cal peporoni and Provolone chees sub (Huge) Or Philly Cheese Steak
    2 glass of milk
    180 cal. 1 serving almonds

    Dinner
    Whatever MoMMy cooks lol Mostly is a big protein source and i eat!!!
    1 glass of milk
    400. cal whey protein shake

    Night time Snacks

    180 cal yogurt
    frosted mini wheats
    beef O roni's (chef boy r D). WHY?
    Ice cream
    apple sauce
    almonds
    AGAIN, WHERE IS YOUR PROTEIN
    please be gentle
    THREE MEALS? THERE SHOULD BE 7-8 IF YOUR BULKING AND GET AT LEAST 200G OF PROTEIN A DAY SHEESH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjpatrick1987 View Post
    Should i add whey protein?
    Of course u should

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    Get reading, you have much to learn. Your diet is so cack I am wondering if you are winding us all up. Use the sample diets stickied in this forum as a base.

    P.S. Cheerio's are about as healthy as a crack addiction.

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    "huge" 500 calorie subs don't exist.

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    2300 calories? if you still cant gain id go to 4 or even 5 thousand calories. you must have an extremely fast metabolism. and take weight gainer shakes, with WHOLE milk. shit, you could probably use half and half lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjpatrick1987 View Post
    Whatever MoMMy cooks lol Mostly is a big protein source and i eat!!!
    LOL
    This is a joke I hope

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    this may sound wierd but....... Edited. Read the board rules. No rec drug posts.

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    and order chinese

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    arlright go by a gainer shake most will disagree but half wil say go for it. take it till u gain 20 pounds and by then ull learn what types of food when to eat these foods and no how much to eat.

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    morning gainer skake in whole milk

    lunch 1cup oats cam of tuna with 2 slices of bread

    6oz chicken 1cup rice and 4tblsp penutbutter

    snack gainer shake

    whatever MoMmY cooks

    before bed 3cups milk or 1cup cottage cheese or yogurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    morning gainer skake in whole milk

    lunch 1cup oats cam of tuna with 2 slices of bread

    6oz chicken 1cup rice and 4tblsp penutbutter

    snack gainer shake

    whatever MoMmY cooks

    before bed 3cups milk or 1cup cottage cheese or yogurt
    Is this your advice for him? If so its absolutely terrible, and you should do a lot more reading before you start to help others because its really no help at all.

    Lets see, you have his fat jumping between meals from about 5g to upwards of 40g. You have his protein going from 30g to around 60g. You have NO consideration for portion sizes or overall macro counts and calories. And its jut a plain awful diet to suggest to someone who is trying to learn how to gain weight.

    This looks like the type of diet I see 16 year old make up when they try to get big for about a month at the gym then give up lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    "huge" 500 calorie subs don't exist.
    LMAO...so true. That made me laugh brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admirals56 View Post
    morning gainer skake in whole milk

    lunch 1cup oats cam of tuna with 2 slices of bread

    6oz chicken 1cup rice and 4tblsp penutbutter

    snack gainer shake

    whatever MoMmY cooks

    before bed 3cups milk or 1cup cottage cheese or yogurt
    absolutely no reason to use whole milk.

    Admiral, try eating 6-12oz of sweet potato and 2 chicken breasts for 3-4 of your meals everyday.

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