Eating 400g of protein, HOW!?

[football2007]

How? Easy.

10oz chicken breast 7 times a day..how is that hard?

[Nitro29]

How? Easy.

10oz chicken breast 7 times a day..how is that hard?

I would jump out a freakin window after about the 3rd or 4th one. Effen crazy dude, day after day?!!!?

[GT2]

Wow, what an overwhelming response. I now see that it is quite possible. I think I underestimate my protein intake anyway. Cause I eat real meat and practically every meal. Do you guys buy your chicken in bulk?

[MuscleScience]

400 grams of protein is a stupidly high amount of protein to take in. Most of the exercise organizations recommend between 1.5 to 2.0 grams of protein per kg of weight for bodybuilders and athletes alike. Most likely the excess protein will not end up being used as a fuel source unless the body has been deprived of other energy sources for long amounts of time. It takes a very long time for the body to convert amino acids to either fat or carbohydrates. For one it takes a lot of enzymatic process to convert the protein and two if the body is in a normal state meaning it hasnt been starved for long durations of time. Then the enzyme concentration for gluconeogenesis or lipogenesis are not being expressed in high amounts to were it would have a significant impact on energy demands.

More than likely the excess aminos will go to the blood and be used and/or processed and excreted out via the urine. You may here some say that all the extra amino acids will overwhelm the kidneys and cause a plasma increase in ammonia. This is a stretch at best because a normal healthy individual only uses about 10 % of the kidneys total capacity at any given time. If however the persons kidneys are stressed or in a diseased state this is possible.

[SFVpumped]

just google image search: OH LOOK.

haha shit man 8 pages and 288 files later i found it...... it was worth the search

[big_dubya33]

haha shit man 8 pages and 288 files later i found it...... it was worth the search

LOL I i can't believe i did the search too. great avy...hopefully those are protein-enhanced cupcakes

[Stoneco|d]

this thread is got pretty interesting, keep going!

[football2007]

I would jump out a freakin window after about the 3rd or 4th one. Effen crazy dude, day after day?!!!?

well, ive done 400+ many times..and I was just giving that as an example.

Yeah 400+ is probably way too high..but if I dont gain fat then what the hell

[Stoneco|d]

I am like around 210 lbs and I am happy with around 270-300g of protein. People think more protein = more muscle lol, how about eat 500 g per day

[GT2]

haha shit man 8 pages and 288 files later i found it...... it was worth the search

LMAO when I typed it in google images the first picture was the avatar. What the HELL did you type in?

[brewerpi]

shakes and cans of tuna

[SFVpumped]

LMAO when I typed it in google images the first picture was the avatar. What the HELL did you type in?

yahoo images "OH LOOK" ......for research purposes i did it again yahoo images= page 16 271-288 images, google = ****, yeah first god damn image up.

i need to stop using yahoo........

[SFVpumped]

How? Easy.

10oz chicken breast 7 times a day..how is that hard?

eating chicken 7 times a day is going to lead to protein allergy. not an allergic reaction but the body will start mal absorbing the protein. i dont eat the same protein source more than twice a day. but im sure three times a day is still good. seven times is pushing it HARD

[fedorrulz]

Keep drinking those 3 - 5 protein shakes a day while the supplement companies laugh all the way to the bank with your money. Keep eating 200 grams or more of animal flesh as your arteries become clogged with fat. And LOL at the fools around here trying to eat as much, OR MORE, protein as Jay Cutler thinking they will one day be as big as him.

[joeguns]

your bodies ability to break down protein is determined by a variety of factors and anyone who has a magic figure for the amount is being mislead, if your growing and keeping a reasonable level of body fat then it must be working or adjust accordingly

[sam_sneed]

many people in here are rubbishing the 2lb per bodyweight theory but i think its the best heres why (especially if you train twice a day):

> if your MUSCLES need 300g of protein per day for repair then guess what you need more protein than that. hair, nails building of enzymes all involves amino acids if there are not enough aminos in your blood your body will break down muscle tissue to get some.

> 1g per lb is probably not enough if your training intensely shoot for 1.5lb. but as you grow remember you need to continually increase your protein to keep pace with your needs

small frequent meals ensures there is a constant supply of aminos in the blood

[roid_rage]

I eat 2 protein bars =100g of protein
2 shakes = 70g protein
2-3 chicken breast
6 eggs for breakfast
tuna sandwhiches for lunch
beef jerkey(gotta watch this stuff tis loaded with sodium so it can make you bloat)

You get the point its not that hard to get your diet up to 400g/day

Why do I find this kind of hard to belive... 50 g protein bars??? PLEEEASE TELL ME WHERE CAN I FIND IT... if that was to be real... we all be eating 10 protein bars a day, and then with the other meals and the protein shake... we'll be eating easily about 800 g. of protein per day...

May be it was something like 5 g. and not 50....

[sam_sneed]

peak body nutrition do a bar called pro-50 that has 50 grams of protein

heres the nutiritional info

Nutritional Information
Per 100g Bar

Energy (Calories) 399
Energy (Kjoules) 1413
Protein 50g
Carbohydrates 9.6g
of which sugars 8g
Polyols 12.73g
Fat 6.5g
of which saturates 5.5g
Dietary Fibre 1.2g
Sodium 120mg

[Misery13]

in addition to my shakes and meals during the day I also get up at night and shake 1 to 2 times...

[eljugo16]

how high your protein intake is depends on the type of diet you are running. for example, if you are on a keto diet then your protein intake should be higher usual.

[futurestar67]

Metrex Big Collosals have 50-75 grams of Protein but they taste like shit

[eljugo16]

also do you know 5 little ounces of salmon has 41g of protein? when your hungry you can eat like 5 of those alone.

[binder]

Metrex Big Collosals have 50-75 grams of Protein but they taste like shit

chocolate chunk is pretty good.

[roid_rage]

shit.. gotta have a hand on thouse bars...

[binder]

you can get them at walmart anywhere in the nation.

bodybuilding.com sells them too

[soulstealer]

How? Easy.

10oz chicken breast 7 times a day..how is that hard?

mmmmm....chicken almost time for breast number 5 today

[MuscleScience]

many people in here are rubbishing the 2lb per bodyweight theory but i think its the best heres why (especially if you train twice a day):

> if your MUSCLES need 300g of protein per day for repair then guess what you need more protein than that. hair, nails building of enzymes all involves amino acids if there are not enough aminos in your blood your body will break down muscle tissue to get some.

> 1g per lb is probably not enough if your training intensely shoot for 1.5lb. but as you grow remember you need to continually increase your protein to keep pace with your needs

small frequent meals ensures there is a constant supply of aminos in the blood

Yes but what you left out is that amino acids are constantly being recycled you do not lose 400 grams worth of amino acids in a day. Really all that one needs to ingest on a short term basis is essiental amino acids because the body can make the others when needed. Lastly any unused amino's go into short term storage referred to as the amino acid pool. Those that are not more than likely are secreted by the kidneys.

[sam_sneed]

Yes but what you left out is that amino acids are constantly being recycled you do not lose 400 grams worth of amino acids in a day. Really all that one needs to ingest on a short term basis is essiental amino acids because the body can make the others when needed. Lastly any unused amino's go into short term storage referred to as the amino acid pool. Those that are not more than likely are secreted by the kidneys.

i know you do not lose that many aminos during a day mate come on! (logic!)

didnt know the other part though about short term storage, Props

[fedorrulz]

Metrex Big Collosals have 50-75 grams of Protein but they taste like shit

They have about 30grams of sugar too. Great for hard gainers though.

[Cyanide91]

isnt that like to much protein tho

[Polska]

The human body cannot break down and process 80grams of protein in one sitting. That is money right down the toliet, literally.

If that amount is consumed from one quickly digesting source (ie 80g of whey) then yes I agree with you. But what about when you ingest different protein sources with different rates of digestion? Say 40g of protein from steak, 20g from egg whites, 20g from whey. The whey is going to be absorbed fastest, within 20-30 minutes. The steak will get broken down and digested over the course of a few hours, same for the egg whites. So you have 80g of protein being ingested in one sitting but broken down and digested over a long time. That allows for amino acid pull over the course of 4-6+ hours from 80g of protein. The body can surely use every gram in this case especially when you're an athlete.

[FireGuy]

One of the points not being addressed here is total caloric needs. When precontest dieting many bodybuilders will drop their carbs to under 100 grams. On a 3000 calorie diet you would need an additional 2600 calories from fats and protein. If you keep your protein moderate, say 275 grams you would need almost 175 grams of fat per day to hit your numbers. This is one of the reasons you see many bodybuilders over the 400 gram mark.

[jackjackson]

When I was getting down i weight for my contest, my protein intake did not change at all. carbs did.
Keep in mind this is lean body mass not freaking total weight per pound.
I take in about 45g of glutamine over a days period, precontest or not.
Glutamine has numerous benefits and is very important as are BCAA and EFA.

[Polska]

When I was getting down i weight for my contest, my protein intake did not change at all. carbs did.
Keep in mind this is lean body mass not freaking total weight per pound.
I take in about 45g of glutamine over a days period, precontest or not.
Glutamine has numerous benefits and is very important as are BCAA and EFA.

What would you say is more important, BCAA or Glutamine; if you had to chose one, which would it be?

[catz54]

1.5 grams of protein per pound in your buddy when lean bulking. 1 gram per pound while cutting. it is obscene to put that much pressure on your kidneys year round. not to mention you should never have more than 65 grams of protein in one sitting because it is true that your body can only absorb 40 grams at a time. so assuming 10 of those grams are pissed out and the other 15 turn to fat in storage. who cares its not too much of an OD

[binder]

One of the points not being addressed here is total caloric needs. When precontest dieting many bodybuilders will drop their carbs to under 100 grams. On a 3000 calorie diet you would need an additional 2600 calories from fats and protein. If you keep your protein moderate, say 275 grams you would need almost 175 grams of fat per day to hit your numbers. This is one of the reasons you see many bodybuilders over the 400 gram mark.

so where is the reduction in calories? if you are on a 3000 calorie diet, you drop the carbs down to do 2 things: reduce carbs, and reduce calories. If you stay at 3000 calories, you won't cut anything, you'll just maintain weight. THAT is why you don't need 175 grams of fat when you start cutting the carbs down.

[FireGuy]

Agreed!! You would not eat 175 grams of fat that is why so many bodybuilders go high protein, for the calories. Binder, have you ever actually done a precontest diet and competed in a bodybuilding show? When I compete I DONT reduce my calories I just rearrange the macro nutrients. I am sure if you speak to people on here who actually have competed in a show or two you will hear the same thing. This is especially true for Natural Bodybuilders.

[Timm1704]

1.5 grams of protein per pound in your buddy when lean bulking. 1 gram per pound while cutting. it is obscene to put that much pressure on your kidneys year round. not to mention you should never have more than 65 grams of protein in one sitting because it is true that your body can only absorb 40 grams at a time. so assuming 10 of those grams are pissed out and the other 15 turn to fat in storage. who cares its not too much of an OD

as said above, there is no conclusive evidence to state a specific number on how much protein we absorb at one time. I have heard several different theories over the last 6 years or so, ranging from 21.1g all the way to 80g lol. I stick with roughly 50g per meal, 6 times per day. I have been up higher than 400g, was eating around 5/6,000 kcals each day, and put more fat on than id liked.

I eat simpler now, 300g per day, but was on the diet forum looking into what people think about high protein (350g+) for a 200lb dude (im just under), as i was thinking of upping to 400g. Can only just afford to buy the amount of food i do now, so was hoping that id be convinced that 300g is enough. Keeping in mind i am running GH and AAS, and soon to add insulin , so want to make sure the diet is completely adequate to gain mass