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I've noticed many people on this site (and people who "bodybuild" in general) claim they eat x amount of grams of protein a day.
What I don't understand is, how is it possible to get in say 350-400g protein per day, without resorting to protein shakes alongside every meal?
Say you eat 5-6 meals a day (a typical bodybuilder), you have to be eating 66g of protein at each meal (to eat 400g a day across 6 meals). How can you possibly consume that much protein EVERY day!? I really am curious.
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Dude check the diet forums. If people do it there's obviously a way. Good luck.
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its easy. i drink 3 protein shakes a day and each has 50 grams of whey so thats 150 grams. chicken for lunch 48g, 9oz fish for dinner 75g, 9 eggg whites with 2 yolks for breakfest 45g, plus low fat beef jerky and protein bars throughout the day. a cup of brown rice has 10g and i eat that every night with my fish. a cup of peanuts has about 36 grams, a cup of shim milk has 8 grams. there are so many ways to get your needed protein intake and belive me, it is extremly important
Last edited by PT; 05-31-2008 at 05:58 AM.
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It's actually very doable it just takes discipline and planning. I do 7 meals a day at 50-55 grams of protein per meal only one of which is a shake and that is for Post Workout only. Every night you cook 42 ounces of lean meat, I do a combination of ground turkey breast and 93% lean beef. Weigh out my Sweet Potatoes and dump in a pound of spinache or broccoli into the meat mix. Takes 15 minutes to cook and then separate into 6 tupperware containers.
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********flame*********edit*********Originally Posted by Hamish&Andy
wtf !?!
HOW DO YOU NOT CONSUME THAT AMOUNT OF PROTIEN ?
I GET SO ****ING HUNGRY I SOMETIMES LOOK AT PEOPLE AND PETS AND THINK ABOUT HOW I'D COOK THEM .......
REAL TALK !
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Eating that much takes time if youre not used to doing it. I used to eat 350+ grams ed without a shake regardless of my diet goals.
However, if you spend enough time working on your diet and finding complete proteins in high quality supps, you can get away with much much less...in otherwords: eat smarter.
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no offense bro but in the future can you please help make this board a better place by not flaming people just because they dont know as much as you do. thank you
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I eat 2 protein bars =100g of protein
2 shakes = 70g protein
2-3 chicken breast
6 eggs for breakfast
tuna sandwhiches for lunch
beef jerkey(gotta watch this stuff tis loaded with sodium so it can make you bloat)
You get the point its not that hard to get your diet up to 400g/day
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He brings up an interesting point though. Personally I find that I grow a lot more when I eat real meat, and not protein shakes. Maybe my body just does not absorb the shakes or something...? It is definitely harder to eat a lot of protein in real meat versus just throwing in whey protein shakes. Just need to work at it though, like everything else, work and plan.
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LMAO spoken like a true psychopath, i mean bodybuilder lol where do you get protein bars with 50 grams of protein?
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It may be slightly less something like 45g of protein but I have seen 50g bars but I forget what brand they were.
Also as for not absorbing the protein powder and protein bars you need to take BCAA amino caps and glutamine to help keep absorption at its maximum
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i think i top u all 9 meals a day
8 10 12 2 4 6 8 10 12
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i eat 8-10 meals a day so it isnt hard at all
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Redz, can you explain what role Branched Chain Amino Acids and L-Glutamine play in the absorption? I know the filtering process makes a huge difference on the rate of absorbtion but am unaware of how the amino's you are referring to help the body's uptake.
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protein intake depends on weight.
IMO
- if your only 200 lbs eating 400+ grams of protein isnt gonna do ish for you. at 200lb i found 280-320 to be perfect, if your eating that much and not growing than you need to up complex carb intake.
- 3 shakes a day is MAX (i would 1 whey at wakeup, 1 whey at pwo, 1 casein at bed)
-with 1 shake at pwo 350/400grams is easy to get with all real foods
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God I cant believe this shit,ever heard of to much protein?
Dorian Yates at his prime use to consume 400-450 grams per day.
Very few people here need that much.
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wrong forum too.!!
This is AAS!!!
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damn goose4 you have a link to a zoomed in shot of your avatar?? i need to take a closer look here.....
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LMMFAO@ this guy!!!!
DAMN
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I agree Goose, How much would you recommend for a 230 lb BB/PL'er?
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just google image search: OH LOOK.
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Studies show supplementing your diet and training efforts with L- Glutamine will decrease muscle protein degradation, increase muscle protein synthesis, increase cell volume, increase growth hormone and increase immune system function.Glutamine is the most abundant single amino acid in the blood and in the intracellular free amino acid pool (most abundant amino acid in muscle tissue). It comprises 61% of the amino acid pool in skeletal muscle. Glutamine's unique structure, containing two nitrogen side chains, consists of 19% nitrogen - making it the primary transporter of nitrogen into the muscle cell. In fact, glutamine alone is responsible for 35% of the nitrogen that gets into the muscle cell. Glutamine literally drives muscle building nitrogen into the muscle cell where it is synthesized for growth.Redz, can you explain what role Branched Chain Amino Acids and L-Glutamine play in the absorption? I know the filtering process makes a huge difference on the rate of absorbtion but am unaware of how the amino's you are referring to help the body's uptake.
not sure if im supposed to post the source or not.
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A guy on the supplements forum the other day said that your wasting your protein and money if your making 70 gram shakes b/c the average human body can only digest 40 g p/every three hours. This is the first ive ever heard of this. Anyone else heard this? Or is it just a crock?
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also on the bcaa....
The phrase branched-chain amino acids or BCAA is sometimes used to refer to the amino acids having aliphatic side-chains that are non-linear. These are leucine, isoleucine and valine. The combination of these three essential amino acids make up approximately 1/3 of skeletal muscle in the human body, and play an important role in protein synthesis. BCAA’s are currently used clinically to aid in the recovery of burn victims, as well as for supplementation for strength athletes.
thats from wilkopedia
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Sounds like acrock to me but I cant really back it up with any scientific proof.A guy on the supplements forum the other day said that your wasting your protein and money if your making 70 gram shakes b/c the average human body can only digest 40 g p/every three hours. This is the first ive ever heard of this. Anyone else heard this? Or is it just a crock?
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I cant find any facts to back that up so Im calling BS on him but I was just wondering if you all knew anything about it.
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it's called humor, get used to it homie.,..
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smells like bullshit
how much of that is broken down into unusable waste by your stomach, and what amount is digested by your digestive tract, and what rate,,
whats the worst thing that can happen if you eat to much protien ?
all i get is alot of gas ( which is not fun when your grappling hahhaha ).
i eat as much meat as i can, but protien shakes are the most reliable source for me personally
i'll have a shake when i wake up, one a few hours later, then maybe one with lunch, one as another snack later, another one with dinner, and one about an hour or two before bed,
i've been pretty happy with the syntha6 ish.. the vanilla ice cream was gross.,.
you could try a homeopathic diet, far more of your meats protien would be retained and utalized by your body ...
oh yeah some humor
I'MA EAT YOUR CHILDREN ! WHOLE !
REAL TALK !
I WENT TO HTE BUFFET TODAY AND PICKED ALL THE CHICKEN BITS OUT OF THE CHICKEN BALLS....
MEAT IS GOOD MEAT MEAT MEAT !
NO HOMO
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over 2g of protein per lb of lean body mass is crazy.
so unless you are 200+lbs of lean body weight, 400 grams of protein is just going to destroy your kidneys.
protein in large doses is hard to filter, therefore making it nephrotoxic. i'd love to see these people's blood panel and watch them die from kidney failure....
when you start getting 30% or more of your caloric intake from protein, your body will just filter it out therefore harming the kidneys.
some people need to pick up a nutrition book before they destroy their bodies completely. you'd be safer juicing than pumping that much protein through your body (more then 2g per lb of lean body weight)
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I was eating 400g but I was upto 267lbs on my last cycle. You need alot of protein but you can over do it.er 2g of protein per lb of lean body mass is crazy.
so unless you are 200+lbs of lean body weight, 400 grams of protein is just going to destroy your kidneys.
protein in large doses is hard to filter, therefore making it nephrotoxic. i'd love to see these people's blood panel and watch them die from kidney failure....
when you start getting 30% or more of your caloric intake from protein, your body will just filter it out therefore harming the kidneys.
some people need to pick up a nutrition book before they destroy their bodies completely. you'd be safer juicing than pumping that much protein through your body (more then 2g per lb of lean body weight)
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Last edited by redz; 05-31-2008 at 03:38 PM.
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I go with one gram per pound of bodyweight theory. My doctor told me that its a waste to do those megashakes of 80g or more, he said 20 or so is all you need, so I did what he said and it seemed like I had the same results, and saved a little money.
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Just something to keep in mind. Doctors are NOT dieticians/nutritionists. They do not take courses about how to prescribe a specific diet with a given goal in mind.
I would NEVER ask my doctor for nutrition advice. Go to a nutritionist (a registered one) if you want the write info. Beleive me when you get your M.D. you may not very little about nutritional applications ESPECIALLY as they apply to bodybuiding.
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i usually have 30-40g protien per meal. 8 meals
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Its pretty easy to consume that much protein naturally, if you eat a lot of meat, 4 ounces of chicken breast has 28 grams, its pretty easy for me to eat over 16 ounces in one sitting if i want to, but if your not a pig like me if you have 8 ounces of chicken each meal for 6 meals, thats 336 grams of protein right there not that you really need that much.
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one gram of protein per LEAN pound of bodyweight. Read the actualy studies and not what the supplement companies tell you. Of course they want you to use more. Think about why they would encourage you to use more of their product for a second.
Yes, 300lb MR olympias can use 350grams of protein a day....99% of the world cannot.
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The human body cannot break down and process 80grams of protein in one sitting. That is money right down the toliet, literally.
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Ditto to that, I understand where you are coming from, doctors rarely recommend a bodybuilding type diet, but the doctors im talking about I workout with so they are pretty jacked, so I respect what they are saying, but you know dieticians will never tell you to eat that much protein, and they always talk smack about nutritionist being bunk because they don't have to have a 4 year degree, I just think personally I weigh 180 if I consume 400 grams of protein all I am doing is FN up my kidneys.
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Have you ever tried a blend of proteins?? I notice I seem to grow better with those opposed to just straight whey. I only take whey after workout and drink blends throughout the day and most importanly before bed.
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that's about right for a 267lb person. 1.5 grams per pound is safe to consume. when you start getting to 2 grams per lean lb then over that, it's starts getting risky. the more you have ot filter, the harder your kidneys work. protein is one of the hardest substances to filter out, just remember that. if you don't believe me, get a 4 year degree and head to med school, sit through a urology class and then you'll change your mind
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LMFAO ok
you are not taking in account diet/training/muscle
nope 80 grams is the set amount no matter what, even if you are starving and 300lbs 10% bf
ever hear of glucogenisis? your body will use that protein, even if it converts it to glucose or it gets stored as fat
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