protein amount when NOT on the gear

**football3355** · 08-20-2008, 05:18 PM

I am not going to start my cycle until Nov.1 so I have to months to see if I can max out my genetic limit a little bit more I start (since I start baseball conditioning in January). Anyways my question was, when not on the gear what is the general rule of thumb in the amount of protein intake per day? I have heard 1.5-2g per lb body weight. Would 2 benefit me much more than 1.5 or would I just be wasting money?

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-20-2008, 08:02 PM

Depends. Lets say you are 250lbs. 500g of protein per day seems a bit unreasonable. 200g is a good number. Also, i wouldnt eat differently on/off.

**WARMachine** · 08-20-2008, 08:05 PM

I agree with Jigga, you need around 200G a day... From food, whatever 60-80 from shakes is fine too.

**Flex-Appeal** · 08-20-2008, 08:13 PM

IMO 1g/per lb. bodyweight keeps me up

**Ashop** · 08-20-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

I am not going to start my cycle until Nov.1 so I have to months to see if I can max out my genetic limit a little bit more I start (since I start baseball conditioning in January). Anyways my question was, when not on the gear what is the general rule of thumb in the amount of protein intake per day? I have heard 1.5-2g per lb body weight. Would 2 benefit me much more than 1.5 or would I just be wasting money?

2-3grams per lb of bodyweight

**mkrulic** · 08-20-2008, 08:25 PM

needs to be a percentage of your intake cals. whatever your intake cals are off cycle let your protien make up 40% of that.

**mkrulic** · 08-20-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by football3355

I am not going to start my cycle until Nov.1 so I have to months to see if I can max out my genetic limit a little bit more I start (since I start baseball conditioning in January). Anyways my question was, when not on the gear what is the general rule of thumb in the amount of protein intake per day? I have heard 1.5-2g per lb body weight. Would 2 benefit me much more than 1.5 or would I just be wasting money?

you can do better than this. why use a general rule of thumb when you can be scientific about it.

**one8nine** · 08-20-2008, 08:32 PM

yeah doesnt it take like 4g carbs, 1/2 g fat to process 1g pro?

**mkrulic** · 08-20-2008, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

yeah doesnt it take like 4g carbs, 1/2 g fat to process 1g pro?

takes energy to process protien. 20% of cals from protien are spent in digestion. thats one reason why its good to have a big %tage of your cals come from protien

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-20-2008, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by ****

2-3grams per lb of bodyweight

you will piss out your kidneys in no time like that.

**Flex-Appeal** · 08-20-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

you will piss out your kidneys in no time like that.

agreed

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-20-2008, 09:38 PM

But then again you could just rig your dialysis machine for steroids as well.

**rhino1** · 08-20-2008, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

you will piss out your kidneys in no time like that.

that is what h2o is for

**rhino1** · 08-20-2008, 09:48 PM

just keep water intake up....shouldn't be a problem....also take your multivitamins...pissing extra you will dilute your sodium, potassium serum concentration...etc...

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-20-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by rhino1

that is what h2o is for

I agree, if you mean its for pissing your kidneys out. That much protein over time will kill your kidneys.

**MR_T** · 08-20-2008, 10:00 PM

I havent seen a benifit to going over 200grams/day.. I try to get my protein from food but use shakes if I have too..

**football3355** · 08-20-2008, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by ****

2-3grams per lb of bodyweight

that sounds as ridiculous as it prob is. Bodybuilders max (from what I have read) only go up to 1.5g per lb of body weight MAX. So I will go for 200g about 20g over my body weight (180g = 180 lbs)

**WOLFCRAFT** · 08-20-2008, 11:52 PM

I would say 2-3 grams per pound sounds excessive.
I weigh around 200 pounds and I always take in 200 to maybe 250 a day.
I think the real key is spacing it out throughout your day so you constantly have protein for your body to use.

**mkrulic** · 08-21-2008, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by football3355

that sounds as ridiculous as it prob is. Bodybuilders max (from what I have read) only go up to 1.5g per lb of body weight MAX. So I will go for 200g about 20g over my body weight (180g = 180 lbs)

how much do they weigh? if the biggest was 300lbs then by my calcs on a 40/40/20 split he would be taking in 4500/day. I would have thought theyd be higher

**mkrulic** · 08-21-2008, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ricky Thunder

I would say 2-3 grams per pound sounds excessive.
I weigh around 200 pounds and I always take in 200 to maybe 250 a day.
I think the real key is spacing it out throughout your day so you constantly have protein for your body to use.

200*4=800cals. what are your total cals/day?