Diet sodas?

[mg1228]

Can drinking diet sodas hamper your diet success---they're listed 0 cals 0 carbs 0 fat---just the caffeine.

[MuscleScience]

It kinda depends on who you talk to. I think it is far better than drinking regular soda and in reality if it keeps your diet on track then maybe its ok. Some believe that some of the sugar alternatives are bad for you such as aspartame, I think that some of the purported side effects really dont stand up to scientific rigor. I think like most things diet soda in moderation is probably not going to hurt your diet to much.

[IM708]

It kinda depends on who you talk to. I think it is far better than drinking regular soda and in reality if it keeps your diet on track then maybe its ok. Some believe that some of the sugar alternatives are bad for you such as aspartame, I think that some of the purported side effects really dont stand up to scientific rigor. I think like most things diet soda in moderation is probably not going to hurt your diet to much.

How is aspartame bad, there is no conclusive scientific evidence to support that.

[xnotoriousx]

I don't know, but I don't over due it when it comes to aspartame just to be on the safe side. I think water is just as good as any soda. If you have to have one every now and then do it, but don't go buying cases of the stuff.

[mg1228]

only drink about 3-4 a day--how about a baked potato instead of red or sweet--i usually eat one for dinner and cup brown rice for lunch--i could switch em too---thanks

[MuscleScience]

How is aspartame bad, there is no conclusive scientific evidence to support that.

There are some animal studies that have made a link between supraphysiological consumption and cancer.

Also aspartame can be broken down into phenylalanine which for people with PKU disease is not good. Another controversial metabolic byproduct of may be methanol, which as you know his toxic in large amounts. I say maybe because in the lab under some conditions methanol is a byproduct.

[fit4ever180]

I agree with musclescience... Also, some reports indicate that high amounts of carbonated beverages can cause a reduction in bone density, thus increasing the chance of osteoporosis, but this i arguable... I could wrong, but I believe the studies performed with aspartame and its cancer causing effects were the result of extremely high levels of the sweetner?

[IM708]

There are some animal studies that have made a link between supraphysiological consumption and cancer.

Also aspartame can be broken down into phenylalanine which for people with PKU disease is not good. Another controversial metabolic byproduct of may be methanol, which as you know his toxic in large amounts. I say maybe because in the lab under some conditions methanol is a byproduct.

-If a person can not handle phenylalanine then they shouldn't be using aspartame in the first place.
-What kind of dosages proportional to bodyweight were they given? Humans get mere grams of it in a day.
-Over 200 studies have been done on it saying it is ok for human consumption.
-A rat is a rat, a human is a human that also has to be addressed. We can't assume humans get affected the same way as other animals.

I could wrong, but I believe the studies performed with aspartame and its cancer causing effects were the result of extremely high levels of the sweetner?

Yes, that's the flaw in the studies.

Also, some reports indicate that high amounts of carbonated beverages can cause a reduction in bone density, thus increasing the chance of osteoporosis, but this i arguable

What does high amounts mean and is aspartame causing the decrease in bone density?

[MuscleScience]

-If a person can not handle phenylalanine then they shouldn't be using aspartame in the first place.
-What kind of dosages proportional to bodyweight were they given? Humans get mere grams of it in a day.
-Over 200 studies have been done on it saying it is ok for human consumption.
-A rat is a rat, a human is a human that also has to be addressed. We can't assume humans get affected the same way as other animals.

Yes, that's the flaw in the studies.

What does high amounts mean and is aspartame causing the decrease in bone density?

Im not saying, Im just saying that is what some people would spout off to him. He needs to be aware that there is some truth to the fact that there are negative studies that point to aspartame as a problem. I in-fact do not agree that aspartame in moderate amounts is any problem at all.

As you say we cant assume that rats and humans respond the same to a compound. We also can not assume any thing we put in our body is 100% safe. That is why I mentioned aspartame and what some groups believe for balance to the OP.

[j4ever41]

i dont think it will hinder your diet but 3-4 a day is alot to me,i drink diet soda but only 2-3 a week.

[IM708]

Im not saying, Im just saying that is what some people would spout off to him. He needs to be aware that there is some truth to the fact that there are negative studies that point to aspartame as a problem. I in-fact do not agree that aspartame in moderate amounts is any problem at all.

As you say we cant assume that rats and humans respond the same to a compound. We also can not assume any thing we put in our body is 100% safe. That is why I mentioned aspartame and what some groups believe for balance to the OP.

Alright fair enough

[MuscleScience]

Alright fair enough

Bustin' my balls here Iron.....

[IM708]

Bustin' my balls here Iron.....

It's all good man, everyone needs their ball(s) busted every once in a while. Wasn't it fun?

[luxifer93]

They're also high in sodium, so you'll probably retain more water

[MuscleScience]

It's all good man, everyone needs their ball(s) busted every once in a while. Wasn't it fun?

LOL, true it was pretty fun....

[j4ever41]

They're also high in sodium, so you'll probably retain more water

diet coke only has 40mg sodium per 12oz.

[mg1228]

How about the bakes potato for dinner?

[IM708]

Skip the potato

[mg1228]

brown rice?

[VeraDeMilo]

I remember seeing segment on the NBC Today Show about 2 months ago on Aspartame. They showed studies how it is linked to not only cancer in adult humans, but birth defects in children along with other terminal diseases and many psychological and mood disorders of children whose mother consumed a lot of aspartame. They went into another point how many of these risks became evident during the FDA testing of the product before it was approved. And that they swept the results under the carpet, so to speak, and approved it anyway for whatever reason, knowing these risks.

I have no opinion on it one way or the other, but just thought I would share.

[Rob]

Some soda's use sucralose if you're worried about aspertame..

[ray0414]

stay away from diet soda or soda in general, the carbonic acid is very bad for you, along with some of the other junk in it, including ASPARTAME. alot of studies are controlled and tricked into getting the results they want. there is a reason why aspartame was BANNED back in the 70s and is banned now im certain countries,it wasnt until a new FDA commisioner took over in the 80s til it got pushed through. if a study says it is safe, dont be stupid and say see told you so. look into WHO did the study, and who financed the study. if coke says they did a study adn it came back safe are you seriously going to believe THEIR study? if u do some hard digging on the politics of aspartame from the 70s and 80s you'd be shocked at all that went down to get that crap approved and you bet your ass it was kept hush hush and swept under the carpet.

[Phate]

stay away from diet soda or soda in general, the carbonic acid is very bad for you, along with some of the other junk in it, including ASPARTAME. alot of studies are controlled and tricked into getting the results they want. there is a reason why aspartame was BANNED back in the 70s and is banned now im certain countries,it wasnt until a new FDA commisioner took over in the 80s til it got pushed through. if a study says it is safe, dont be stupid and say see told you so. look into WHO did the study, and who financed the study. if coke says they did a study adn it came back safe are you seriously going to believe THEIR study? if u do some hard digging on the politics of aspartame from the 70s and 80s you'd be shocked at all that went down to get that crap approved and you bet your ass it was kept hush hush and swept under the carpet.

could you explain this?

[xnotoriousx]

easy end to this is just don't drink sodas. Are they really worth all this mess? Causing cancer? Man just drink damn water. No offense.

[Rockstar1990]

All i can say is one diet soda every once in a while aint bad, but since it has caffeine it is a diuretic(for people who dont know it means it makes you drop waer weight by peeing more)). So every time you drink a soda, add a whole cup of water(8oz.) more on top of what you are drinking a day to balnace it out.

[Phate]

All i can say is one diet soda every once in a while aint bad, but since it has caffeine it is a diuretic(for people who dont know it means it makes you drop waer weight by peeing more)). So every time you drink a soda, add a whole cup of water(8oz.) more on top of what you are drinking a day to balnace it out.

caffeine isn't a diuretic(well, it's in the same group as water in this aspect), In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a caffeinated beverage resulted in 0 to 84 percent retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0 to 81 percent retention.

[peachfuzz]

artificial sweeteners have been shown to increase cravings for real sugar. it also dulls our satiety mechanism. studies also show those who drink diet soda are more likely to make poorer food choices than those who avoid soda all together.

[quadsofsteel]

perhaps it increases cravings for real sugar because it tastes like sugar. its a mental thing in my opinion. ive been wondering about this whole aspartame thing myself since i drink like 3 cans of diet soda daily, so ive been sticking to the splenda drinks instead. watch for another little chemical in the drinks ive seen "fresca". its BVO, Brominated Vegetable Oil. i read a lil bout it and it aint good shit

[jfalco]

stop drinking that stuff for a month and it will start to taste impossibly sweet. You won't like it anymore once you break the addiction. Drink water.

[peachfuzz]

perhaps it increases cravings for real sugar because it tastes like sugar. Its a mental thing in my opinion. Ive been wondering about this whole aspartame thing myself since i drink like 3 cans of diet soda daily, so ive been sticking to the splenda drinks instead. Watch for another little chemical in the drinks ive seen "fresca". Its bvo, brominated vegetable oil. I read a lil bout it and it aint good shit

stop drinking that stuff for a month and it will start to taste impossibly sweet. You won't like it anymore once you break the addiction. Drink water.

the sweetness is why it increases sugar cravings. Artificial sweeteners are anywhere from 100 to 1000 times sweeter than table sugar.