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    newbie needing help to get started.

    Hey basically ive been weight training on and off (not serious) just enjoy it for around 3 years and because of my lack of knowledge and, silliness i thought i could bust my balls at the gym a few times a week and look like a god, Haha not quite anywayssss, i've now re joined my gym which is a really good weight lifting gym, and asked them for a diet plan. As im currently 145 pounds at 5ft 11 inches tall and looking just as a starting aim to pile on around 30 pounds and see how i go. Right so this is the diet plan they have given me and i want you good ppl if you can to cast your eyes over it and tell me what you think, im very happy to listen to any advice and try anything to help.

    So my lifestyle at the minute is pretty much like this.....

    Work 4 days a week on shifts but latest im working til is 12pm, a do around 15 miles cycling a day and have a very fast metabolism. and on my 2 days off a week train hard in the gym for around 2 - 3 hours concentrating on 2 muscles a session. and then do general dumbbell and bench work at home on other days, again if this is not good enough tell me im not a dreamer im looking to know the truth.

    so the diet go's like this....

    Breakfast;
    choose either
    54g bran flakes- kcals g = 171 carbs = 27.4g prot = 5.3g fat = 1g
    47g porridge oats kcals = 172g carbs = 29.1g prot = 5.1 fat 3.7
    53g shredded wheat kcals = 171g carbs = 36.4g prot = 5.6 g fat = 1.5
    64g all bran kcals = 172g carbs = 29 prot = 8.2g fat = 2.5
    + 1/2 pint skimmed milk kcals = 82.6 g carbs = 12.6 prot = 8.3g fat = 0.1g

    plus
    2 boiled eggs (use 1 yolk, 2 white) kcals = 84.6 carbs = 0 prot = 12.6 fat = 3.8, on 1 medium sliced wholemeal toast with extra low fat tesco/ philadelphia cheese spread kcals = 88 carbs = 17 prot = 3 fat 3.8 g

    plus, 1 x apple kcals = 47 carbs = 11.8 prot = 0.4 fat = 0.1

    Mid morning

    1 x pro peptide kcals = 230 carbs = 6 prot = 45 fat = 3 OR
    2 x small tubs tesco low fat cottage cheese or equivilant kcals = 158 carbs = 6.6 prot = 26.6 fat = 3 THIS ON.....
    3 x ryvita wholegrain kcals = 111 carbs = 20.1 prot = 3.3 fat = 1.8

    Lunch choose either....
    4 slices wholemeal bread with mustard relish kcals = 344 carbs = 66.6 prot = 13.3 fat = 2.6 ON
    1x pack tesco healthy living wafer thin roast ham (110g pack) or equivilant kcals = 117 carbs = 0 prot = 24 fat = 2.4
    1 x piece of fruit kcals 66 carbs = 16 prot = 1.5 fat = 0

    then basically the same again but with tuna and again but with turkey on the bread, similar kcals and that just dont want to bore you too much by putting them all in.

    then afternoon....
    pro peptide (2 serving or 2 scoops) kcals 230 carbs = 6 prot = 45 fat = 3 ADD IN 2 scoops pro fuel kcals 237 carbs = 59 prot = 0 fat = 0 & slice melon 43 cals 10 carbs 0 prot no fat

    Then for tea..... either

    Home made burgers... 250g lean steak mince 310 cals carbs = 0 prot = 52 fat = 11 with 1 egg crushed garlic 80 cals carbs 0 prot 7 fat 6 with 2 x whomemeal barms 200 cals carbs 40 prot 9 fat 2

    or..

    spag bol cals 560 carbs 42.2 prot 60.5 fat 14.8

    etc...

    and supper pro peptide 230 cals carbs 6 prot 45 fat 3



    and thats basically whats they have given me said have 3 high days on 2800 cals and 1 low day on 2300 cals, and thats it. as i said before really looking to get some weight on now and get some decent gains, thanks so much for reading any help questions il be very happy to recieve thanks again, Banni

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    You train for 2-3 HOURS in the gym??

    I train for 45 mins MAX (so does my boyfriend who is 6'2, 255lbs), and we get a great workout. If I were to try and train for 2-3 hours, I'd be so over-trained and in such a catabolic state I'd probably end up getting very ill and bed-ridden. If you lift correctly with the right intensity, there is no way in blue hell you could spend 2-3 HOURS lifting weights. After 1 hour your natural test levels and hormones in general are plummeting, so being there for another TWO hours or even ONE, is a waste of your time and totally counter-productive to what you seek which is RESULTS. After one hour max of correct weight training you should be DONE. You have done your job of tearing down the muscles (stimulation) which doesn't take that long w/correct training, and staying there doing more for TWO more hours won't yield any better results (assuming your diet is in order) than simply working out within a 45 minute to 1 hour max period. More is NOT better, it's actually worse as you cut into recovery time, enter the catabolism parking lot for free w/out having to pay for parking, and totally fry your CNS (central nervous system) from the exaggerated workout duration.

    Get in, get it done, get the hell out to eat/rest/sleep/recover.

    I'll let the others take it from here, I just wanted to comment on the training duration which will totally negate a sound dietary approach and rest/recovery. (When you fry your CNS, it's all downhill w/catabolism, sickness, issues sleeping, extended soreness, etc)

    'Layna
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    As well, if you bike for 15 MILES everyday, you are cutting into what could be your muscular gains IF you were to scale the training down to no more than 1 hour MAX.

    Stop the extened training.
    Stop biking for 15 MILES EVERYDAY.
    Nail the diet down.

    'Layna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheylayna1978 View Post
    As well, if you bike for 15 MILES everyday, you are cutting into what could be your muscular gains IF you were to scale the training down to no more than 1 hour MAX.

    Stop the extened training.
    Stop biking for 15 MILES EVERYDAY.
    Nail the diet down.

    'Layna
    LMAO, i love your writing style layna, lol, makes me laugh everytime

    i agree, though i don't think you need to stop biking everyday if that is what you like doing, you'll just have to adjust your diet to take that into account

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    Ok thanks alot, ive read that somewhere before i just only really have 2 times a week to train so try and get as much in as i can but obviously thats not the best thing, so i will remember that thanks, not biking is not an option this is something i have to do so my diet has to work around this for now. Also what does anyone think of the actual diet? good/bad be grateful if someone could give me a little feedback on this before i start.
    Thanks again Banni

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    Ok thanks alot, ive read that somewhere before i just only really have 2 times a week to train so try and get as much in as i can but obviously thats not the best thing, so i will remember that thanks, not biking is not an option this is something i have to do so my diet has to work around this for now. Also what does anyone think of the actual diet? good/bad be grateful if someone could give me a little feedback on this before i start.
    Thanks again Banni

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    can you calculate your total daily macros for us please?

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