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    Pro/Carb split

    Hey

    Is this a true statement?......the less carbs you eat, and the more protien you eat, the more cut you get?

    At the moment, I am eating 332g of Protein, and 300g of carbs, I dont like all the carbs so I will cut that down, I think I will take away the bread in my subway meal (because its 80g carbs for a footlong) and just walk in there and buy the double meat, im sure they wont mind.

    I know I need carbs to grow though, but I need to be more cut, where my muscles are actually defined.

    Any advice?

    Stats: 26 years old
    Weight: 195 pounds
    Height 5' 10"
    2 previous cycles of test E
    Bodyfat unknown...but im not cut!

    I am trying to work out a better diet, whats hard about it, is trying to make the numbers in the cals/pro/carbs/fat boxes to be perfect and weight up how I want them.

    At the moment it looks like this:

    Cals: 2560
    Pro:332g
    Carbs: 300g (but if I take out the subway bread, this goes down to 220g)
    Fat: 18g

    I need more calories, ide like about 3500, 400g protein, 200g carbs, and any fats under 60g.

    My diet is not the best, the only meat im eating is chicken, but I eat alot of it.

    I have a post workout shake of ISO XP which gives me 100g of protein.


    Thanks!!!

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    Is this a true statement?......the less carbs you eat, and the more protien you eat, the more cut you get? yes and no. thats a very general statement.

    You definately need more EFA (healthy fats) these are very important.

    Are you looking to cut or bulk?

    Does your PWO shake contain any carbs?

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    Also do the calculations below:

    Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )



    once you have that number, you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

    To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


    If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

    This will allow you to calculate your macros depending on your goals.

    Start of with a 40/40/20 split. (pro/carb/fat)

    Weight loss = -500/750 cals

    Weight Gain = -500/750 cals

    (the number you get when you calculate the first equation aka BMR with your activity level will be your maintenance calories for each day)

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    I did that calculation a while back, its 3280, but I dont really beleive it to be honest, as I am only eating 2500 at the moment and maintaining, if not getting a little bigger.

    No, my post shake has no carbs in it, its pure protein, is this good or bad?

    I am trying to bulk, but I am more importantly trying to bulk in a way where im defined. I have already done a dirty bulk and gained some unwanted fat.

    I need more daily calories, but I dont want to up my carb intake lol, I am definately taking out that footlong bread!!

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    Was 3280 for maintainence or for weight gain?

    Eating too little calories could actually cause you to gain fat.

    Yes carbs are very important PWO.

    Lets say 3280 is for weigh gain a 40/40/20 split would equate to 330 pro 330 carb 73 fat.

    Dont think that less carbs = growth of lean mass

    If you eat clean you will grow lean. But that fat that you have already accumulated will need to be st****** at some point if you want to look ******.

    When its time to cut/rip up your diet will need to be spot on.

    Thats my advice if you want to make sure you are eating the right stuff for a lean bulk work out your macros to 500cals over you BMR+Activity level and post up a detailed diet.

    Then the more experienced guys can look at your diet in detail and tell you where your good and bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makod View Post

    Eating too little calories could actually cause you to gain fat.

    Yes carbs are very important PWO.
    OMG really!

    I didnt know either of these!

    Ok, I will change my post work out shake to a shake with carbs AND protein, why is carbs important post work out?

    And why does too little calories make me gain fat? Thats interesting, because that could be another reason why ive gained fat recently.

    Thanks again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattUK666 View Post
    OMG really!
    yes really! carbs area must PWO cutting or buling, timing may vary
    I didnt know either of these!

    Ok, I will change my post work out shake to a shake with carbs AND protein, why is carbs important post work out?to replenish muscle glycogen since you depleted it during workout

    And why does too little calories make me gain fat? Thats interesting, because that could be another reason why ive gained fat recently.
    probl because your bdoy has adjusted to your caloric intake.

    Thanks again....
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    repost diet with macros and daily calories/meals all that good stuff in detail so we culd further critique....makod goodlooks

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    And why does too little calories make me gain fat? Thats interesting, because that could be another reason why ive gained fat recently.

    probl because your bdoy has adjusted to your caloric intake.

    and if you have dropped cals too much your bdy will enter starvation mode in which the body will store more fat

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