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    Started 1st cycle, workout same day (hear me out)

    I have read around on the "How to Cut" and "How to Bulk" and im just not sure which I need to be doing for my situation.

    Im 29 yrs old, 5'11-6'0, 185 lbs
    Taking: Test Enthanate - @ 1cc/250mg per week. Week 3 shot was this past wednesday.

    I work 2 jobs and just a started a workout 5x a week (2 on, 1 off). I don't have much body fat anywhere but my midsection. My arms legs are just normal, with very minimal fat (but not alot of muscle either), I just got back into working out and eating right and want to drop 10-12 lbs, or however much I needed to around my stomach, and also build up my upper body at the same time.

    I am on my 3rd week of test and just really didnt know which way to go with my diet atm until I get rid of my belly fat. Should I first "Cut" and keep working then switch it to the "Bulk" diet when I reach my goal?

    This is my general daily diet.

    -Morning (7am)
    Protein Cereal w Skim Milk or Yogurt + Banana or a Bagel w ham/cheese.

    -Snack 1 (1030am est)
    Bag of mixed granola and dried fruit / nuts

    -Lunch (1pm est) I dont get to leave for lunch and they dont have a cafeteria, and i work 12 hr shifts.
    Soup + Tuna or a lean ham/cheese sandwitch + red apple

    -Snack 2 (330pm est)
    More granola / fruit mix + dehydrated banana and apple chips

    OFF WORK 7pm.

    WORKOUT - 730pm
    (after workout I drink a 55g protein powder mixed with water)

    Dinner (830pm est)
    -Chicken breast or lean steak cuts + a side.

    When I started taking my test, I 100% stopped drinking any type of soda and dropped ALL fast food. I sometimes will eat filler snacks between meals to mix it up like grapes or a peanut butter sandwitch. Let me know if you need any pics of body or any more info to better suggest what to do. Thanks in advance all, glad to be part of the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trueX View Post
    I have read around on the "How to Cut" and "How to Bulk" and im just not sure which I need to be doing for my situation.

    Im 29 yrs old, 5'11-6'0, 185 lbs, work 2 jobs and do a decent workout 5x a week (2 on, 1 off). I don't have much body fat anywhere but my midsection. My arms and legs are all fairly tight but overall ive got fat buildup around my midsecion and fairly slender on the rest of my body.

    I just got back into working out and eating right and want to drop 10-12 lbs, or however much I needed to around my stomach, and also build up my upper body at the same time.

    I am on my 3rd week of test enth @ 1cc / 250mg per week and just really didnt know which way to go with my diet atm until I get rid of my belly fat. Should I first "Cut" and keep working then switch it to the "Bulk" diet when I reach my goal?

    Let me know if you need any pics of body or any more info to better suggest what to do. Thanks in advance all, glad to be part of the community.
    Since you're on cycle already - why don't you just do a lean clean bulk? With the test you'll probably shed some fat and gain muscle - assuming you have adequate protein intake.

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    Posted here so I didnt have to continually edit the main post for this info.

    I did not just start test without lifting on purpose. I have had 2 heart surgeries and was told to take it easy for 3-4 years till my valves regained strength. Now in that time I got soft and lazy and really my energy level and libido hit rock bottom, also I was always fatigued (post heart surgery does that) so last month I went to my V.A Doctor telling him that my libido was totallly hosed and I had absolutely no energy for a 29yr old. He said I was fairly thin and thought I could benefit from a testosterone Rx. So he prescribed it and after week 2 I really started to have energy and libido back, almost tooooo much and decided to move my Bowflex and weights from the garage back into the house to burn my extra energy.

    When I realized that I was basically just getting a prescribed cycle of test, and I had the weights I thought why not just combine a diet and actually set a goal and start heading towards what I wanted my body to look like.

    I decided to post this more personal info after reading various posts on how you should build a good base first and reach the ends of your natural limits before adding a cycle. But as I said, im going to be on the test anyways until....well im not sure. It has 6 refills so thats 60 weeks worth of test before I have to go back to be re-tested for my test baseline level. Just wanted to share to give a bit of insight into why I am already on a cycle but also havent got the greatest base yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sizerp View Post
    why don't you just do a lean clean bulk? With the test you'll probably shed some fat and gain muscle - assuming you have adequate protein intake.
    That sounds like what im looking for, but I either missed the "Lean Clean Bulk" threat or just don't fully understand your terminology as to "lean bulk". I feel my protein intake is good, raw eggs, shakes, tuna, granola, oatmeal, chicken breasts to name a few.

    Would "lean bulk" mean a very high intake of very low fat lean foods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trueX View Post
    That sounds like what im looking for, but I either missed the "Lean Clean Bulk" threat or just don't fully understand your terminology as to "lean bulk". I feel my protein intake is good, raw eggs, shakes, tuna, granola, oatmeal, chicken breasts to name a few.

    Would "lean bulk" mean a very high intake of very low fat lean foods?
    You got it! Get your numbers in order for your stats.

    Once you've found your BMR and TDEE, etc. - plan on a % split of pro/carb/lipid (fat).

    Keep fat at like 10-15% of total daily caloric intake.

    Training days up your calories by 5-600. Off days keep at maintenence, or just above. Healthy complex carbs (oats, potato, quinoa, beans, brown rice) and cooked chicken, lean steak, tuna etc. Browse around for some more insight into preparing meals and the use of different recipes!

    Also, whichever fats you do intake should be healthy and essential. Olive Oils, Flax Oils, Fish Oils to name a few.

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