Gain Too Much?

**Juturna** · 07-21-2009, 10:53 AM

Alright, so I've been keeping my head on straight, not missing or replacing a single meal in the past few months and about a month ago (maybe a little over), changed my diet minutely to include better carbs when possible.

My goal as shown in previous posts is to naturally bulk up (not even supplement use), prior to starting a cycle. I've included my diet below and basically this; Time Elapsed - 6/wks Weight - 154 to 165. I haven't changed scales or anything and I'm losing a little (not much) definition as would be expected, however I just wanted to double check that 11 pounds (naturally, remember) is not gaining too much. By 'too-much' I mean unhealthily gaining weight. All my body parts have increased in size and if asked, I"ll provide measurements.

Might sound stupid, as my gains in the gym and overall size are increasing phenomenally, however I do want to ensure I do not gain any stomach/internal problems for the future because of such rapid gain. From what I've seen of other's progress I'm sure 11lbs in 6/wks looks like an exaggeration or falsity, however I believe my posts on this forum prove that I'm far from a bullshitter and am not coming onto this forum disregarding all advice given.

Age-21
Height- 5'8''
Weight- 165lb (before meals/drinks, upon waking)
Body type (as was told); ecto
Cycles- None

MEAL #1 (0800)

12 Egg Whites
1cup Brown Rice
2tbs Peanut Butter
8oz Skim Milk
4tbs Apple Cider Vinegar
CALS:616 FAT:12.8 CARBS:62.6 PROT:60.2

MEAL #2 (1000)

2cup Chicken
1cup Brown Rice
1oz Almonds
CALS:826 FAT:26.3 CARBS:49.9 PROT:94.3

MEAL #3 (1200)

4cup Chicken
2cup Brown Rice
1cup Lima Bean
CALS:1,499 FAT:23.2 CARBS:123.6 PROT:187.5

MEAL #4 (1400) PWO

4cup Chicken
1cup White Rice
2cup
8oz Natural Grape Juice
CALS:1,098 FAT:20.9 CARBS:44.4 PROT:171.1

MEAL #5 (1800)

2cup Chicken
1cup Brown Rice
CALS:657 FAT:11.3 CARBS:44.4 PROT:88

MEAL #6 (2000)

5oz Ground beef
1/2cup White Rice
CALS:454 FAT:22.4 CARBS:22.2 PROT:38.5

TOTAL CAL: 5,245 FAT: 124.9g CARBS: 350.3 PROT: 643.7

Current TDEE: 3,450

NUTRITION BALANCE:
52% Protein
27% Carbs
21% Fat

**Juturna** · 07-21-2009, 10:55 AM

Forgot to add - I can post pictures if need-be.

**Focusmen** · 07-21-2009, 01:07 PM

if your eating like that 11 pounds in 6 weeks is totally doable. good work. post pics

**Juturna** · 07-21-2009, 02:08 PM

I know it's do-able... My question though is it too much to gain health-wise.

Thank you Focusmen.

**jamyjamjr** · 07-21-2009, 05:04 PM

omit the white rice from your diet all together..

drop 200 cal every week till you only gain 1 lb a week

**Juturna** · 07-21-2009, 06:31 PM

Thank you Jamy - always the best advice... It doesn't go unnoticed!

**jamyjamjr** · 07-21-2009, 10:21 PM

np bud..

***FireGuy*** · 07-22-2009, 11:50 AM

5,200 calories for someone weighing 154 seems like overkill. I am sure you are gaining a ton of weight, my concern is most of it is more than likely bodyfat. How many calories were you taking in prior to starting this diet?

**jamyjamjr** · 07-23-2009, 06:49 AM

cut meal 3 in half...

**Juturna** · 07-23-2009, 08:31 AM

It might be overkill, however when I was eating about 4,000 prior to this diet, I wasn't gaining at all, in fact my weight would fluctuate between <5lbs every single day.

I have easily below 6% BF.

**jamyjamjr** · 07-23-2009, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

It might be overkill, however when I was eating about 4,000 prior to this diet, I wasn't gaining at all, in fact my weight would fluctuate between <5lbs every single day.

I have easily below 6% BF.

do you mind posting a pic???

**goldtravel** · 07-23-2009, 11:08 AM

I think the problem is in the way you're measuring, I'm guessing your 4 cups of chicken are actually something in the 4-8oz range.

**Juturna** · 07-23-2009, 01:17 PM

I think the problem is in the way you're measuring, I'm guessing your 4 cups of chicken are actually something in the 4-8oz range.

It's roughly 2 chicken breasts per 4 cup serving. Measuring by ounce in the past, my estimate of 4 cups being equivalent to 12-14oz would be more accurate.

I've included a picture below.

**jamyjamjr** · 07-23-2009, 01:40 PM

8-9%

6% is bb level and can not be held for a long time without reprocussions to your health

**Juturna** · 07-23-2009, 02:26 PM

Okay I apologize, I haven't had it checked in a very long time and just went by sight and suggestions which apparently were way off haha.

So cut meal 3 in half and drop a little from each other meal then?

**jamyjamjr** · 07-23-2009, 03:15 PM

absolutly..

**collar** · 07-23-2009, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Alright, so I've been keeping my head on straight, not missing or replacing a single meal in the past few months and about a month ago (maybe a little over), changed my diet minutely to include better carbs when possible.

My goal as shown in previous posts is to naturally bulk up (not even supplement use), prior to starting a cycle. I've included my diet below and basically this; Time Elapsed - 6/wks Weight - 154 to 165. I haven't changed scales or anything and I'm losing a little (not much) definition as would be expected, however I just wanted to double check that 11 pounds (naturally, remember) is not gaining too much. By 'too-much' I mean unhealthily gaining weight. All my body parts have increased in size and if asked, I"ll provide measurements.

Might sound stupid, as my gains in the gym and overall size are increasing phenomenally, however I do want to ensure I do not gain any stomach/internal problems for the future because of such rapid gain. From what I've seen of other's progress I'm sure 11lbs in 6/wks looks like an exaggeration or falsity, however I believe my posts on this forum prove that I'm far from a bullshitter and am not coming onto this forum disregarding all advice given.

Age-21
Height- 5'8''
Weight- 165lb (before meals/drinks, upon waking)
Body type (as was told); ecto
Cycles- None

If i was doing this diet, i am just show you what i would change up and take out but of course you dont follow through on it.
just showing you my thoughts on things i guess.

MEAL #1 (0800)

12 Egg Whites
1cup Brown Rice
2tbs Peanut Butter
8oz Skim Milk (get rid off)
4tbs Apple Cider Vinegar
CALS:616 FAT:12.8 CARBS:62.6 PROT:60.2

MEAL #2 (1000)

2cup Chicken
1cup Brown Rice
1oz Almonds
CALS:826 FAT:26.3 CARBS:49.9 PROT:94.3 ( way too much protein, i would bring it down to 40-50g mark)

MEAL #3 (1200)

4cup Chicken (reduce)
2cup Brown Rice
1cup Lima Bean ( get rid off or one cup of the brown rice)
CALS:1,499 FAT:23.2 CARBS:123.6 PROT:187.5 ( once again insanely too much also the carbs is extreme amount, reduce both of these and if anything you may increase a little carbs for pwo if you need to increase carbs for pwo but i wouldnt.)

MEAL #4 (1400) PWO

4cup Chicken (reduce)
1cup White Rice ( i would change to oats/brown rice/sweet potatoes any of that)2cup
8oz Natural Grape Juice ( personally i dont have any sugars or fructose for my pwo so i would get rid off that)CALS:1,098 FAT:20.9 CARBS:44.4 PROT:171.1 ( way too much protein again)

MEAL #5 (1800)

2cup Chicken
1cup Brown Rice
CALS:657 FAT:11.3 CARBS:44.4 PROT:88 ( too much protein again, but i would make sure of the numbers and weight you are getting on your breast chciken cause they are all over the place )
MEAL #6 (2000)

5oz Ground beef
1/2cup White Rice ( replace or get rid off)CALS:454 FAT:22.4 CARBS:22.2 PROT:38.5

TOTAL CAL: 5,245 FAT: 124.9g CARBS: 350.3 PROT: 643.7

Current TDEE: 3,450

NUTRITION BALANCE:
52% Protein
27% Carbs
21% Fat

make your meals more consistent and listen to the advice giving.

But if i were you i wouldnt be afraid of putting on a bit of weight, im not try bash here but you need to keep on bulking as you know

also your numbers are a little off, weigh your chicken breast see what the weight of them is 200g is 40g protein, so that would be enough for a meal.

if you want to know whats unhealthy consuming so much protein in one sitting like 170g mark, long term your organs and insides will be screaming.

**jamyjamjr** · 07-23-2009, 05:25 PM

^^^ solid advice..

**Juturna** · 07-23-2009, 07:18 PM

Great advice collar, I appreciate the detail.

**Orlando Rocket** · 07-24-2009, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Juturna

Alright, so I've been keeping my head on straight, not missing or replacing a single meal in the past few months and about a month ago (maybe a little over), changed my diet minutely to include better carbs when possible.

My goal as shown in previous posts is to naturally bulk up (not even supplement use), prior to starting a cycle. I've included my diet below and basically this; Time Elapsed - 6/wks Weight - 154 to 165. I haven't changed scales or anything and I'm losing a little (not much) definition as would be expected, however I just wanted to double check that 11 pounds (naturally, remember) is not gaining too much. By 'too-much' I mean unhealthily gaining weight. All my body parts have increased in size and if asked, I"ll provide measurements.

Might sound stupid, as my gains in the gym and overall size are increasing phenomenally, however I do want to ensure I do not gain any stomach/internal problems for the future because of such rapid gain. From what I've seen of other's progress I'm sure 11lbs in 6/wks looks like an exaggeration or falsity, however I believe my posts on this forum prove that I'm far from a bullshitter and am not coming onto this forum disregarding all advice given.

Age-21
Height- 5'8''
Weight- 165lb (before meals/drinks, upon waking)
Body type (as was told); ecto
Cycles- None

MEAL #1 (0800)

12 Egg Whites
1cup Brown Rice
2tbs Peanut Butter
8oz Skim Milk
4tbs Apple Cider Vinegar
CALS:616 FAT:12.8 CARBS:62.6 PROT:60.2

MEAL #2 (1000)

2cup Chicken
1cup Brown Rice
1oz Almonds
CALS:826 FAT:26.3 CARBS:49.9 PROT:94.3

MEAL #3 (1200)

4cup Chicken
2cup Brown Rice
1cup Lima Bean
CALS:1,499 FAT:23.2 CARBS:123.6 PROT:187.5

MEAL #4 (1400) PWO

4cup Chicken
1cup White Rice
2cup
8oz Natural Grape Juice
CALS:1,098 FAT:20.9 CARBS:44.4 PROT:171.1

MEAL #5 (1800)

2cup Chicken
1cup Brown Rice
CALS:657 FAT:11.3 CARBS:44.4 PROT:88

MEAL #6 (2000)

5oz Ground beef
1/2cup White Rice
CALS:454 FAT:22.4 CARBS:22.2 PROT:38.5

TOTAL CAL: 5,245 FAT: 124.9g CARBS: 350.3 PROT: 643.7

Current TDEE: 3,450

NUTRITION BALANCE:
52% Protein
27% Carbs
21% Fat

I know that there is talk of the daily protein being slightly over estimated but even so, shouldn't this extremely high daily protein intake be the biggest health related cause of concern? That just sounds like too much too me. How about upping carbs and get to more of a 20/40/40 ratio (fat/carb/pro). What do you other guys think about this?

**Juturna** · 07-24-2009, 04:48 AM

My question has been answered, but thank you Orlando.

**aaron1mix** · 07-24-2009, 12:15 PM

Bro, I know I'm jumping in a little late, How do you eat that many calories per day, not being on cycle and being as light of a weight as you are?!

You must be one active mo fo.

**jamyjamjr** · 07-24-2009, 12:16 PM

^^^lmao.. u need to check your math buddy...

**Juturna** · 07-24-2009, 02:35 PM

Forgive me - I just reread what I posted and realized my idiocy. Hahaha.

**Juturna** · 07-24-2009, 02:37 PM

It's not that hard, I just eat my meals regardless if I'm hungry or not... Eating isn't my problem.

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