PWO carbs

[mrdude]

Hey sorry if this has been asked before.
I have read many times that you should have at least twice as much carbs than protein for PWO. Some wrote three times carbs than protein.

So there are people that think that they only need a protein shake with just protein after their work out. Like my sister said that she thought that she only needs protein after and today a big and strong guy at the gym said that he mostly just takes protein after his work out.
My sister said that she thought that protein is more important because it builds muscles but I said that she needs both.

So how can I easily convince them that they need more carbs than protein for PWO?
I know that it´s like preventing muscle breakdown but can you explain more.

[Klimax]

I think that there are two reasons:
1.If you don't take pro your "hungry" body will turn pro into glucose through glucogenesis. So the pro won't be used for muscle building.
2.Carbs produce insulin release. Insulin postwo pumps the amminoacids and creatine in the muscle cells, while the carbs (if they're in a raseonable amount and aren't with a too high gi) restore glycogen reserves and aren't stored as fat.

Also Efa fats are very important postwo: they help protein sinthesis through an higher insulin sensivity. If you take fats post wo, don't take high gi carbs which produce a too fast insulin spike wich brings the fats in fat cells.

[mrdude]

I think that there are two reasons:
1.If you don't take pro your "hungry" body will turn pro into glucose through glucogenesis. So the pro won't be used for muscle building.
2.Carbs produce insulin release. Insulin postwo pumps the amminoacids and creatine in the muscle cells, while the carbs (if they're in a raseonable amount and aren't with a too high gi) restore glycogen reserves and aren't stored as fat.

Also Efa fats are very important postwo: they help protein sinthesis through an higher insulin sensivity. If you take fats post wo, don't take high gi carbs which produce a too fast insulin spike wich brings the fats in fat cells.

Ok thanks. I have alway heard that fats was a no no for PWO and they you should only get some fast protein and carbs.

[Klimax]

If you take fast carbs than i agree that you shouldn't add fat, but only in that case (or if you're insulin resistent i think).

[british bulldog 1]

you should take 3 times the amount in carbs, i take 100 - 120 grams after workout !!

[Klimax]

Why? it depend from many factors: workout, insulin sensivity, whole diet, goal...

[Orlando Rocket]

you should take 3 times the amount in carbs, i take 100 - 120 grams after workout !!

This statement is over generalized, sure maybe if your bulking and have a body type that will let you get away with it. For others that are cutting, carb or insulin sensitive, 50g or so would be sufficient.

[Undercover]

I think that there are two reasons:
1.If you don't take pro your "hungry" body will turn pro into glucose through glucogenesis. So the pro won't be used for muscle building.
2.Carbs produce insulin release. Insulin postwo pumps the amminoacids and creatine in the muscle cells, while the carbs (if they're in a raseonable amount and aren't with a too high gi) restore glycogen reserves and aren't stored as fat.

Also Efa fats are very important postwo: they help protein sinthesis through an higher insulin sensivity. If you take fats post wo, don't take high gi carbs which produce a too fast insulin spike wich brings the fats in fat cells.

Trust me, whey alone does a fine job at insulin spiking as well. As for the carbs, I would suggest 1g/kg (more than double for me since taking in so much whey at one time is a waste).

[ranging1]

hers a good analogy

if ur building a house
protein: is the bricks and cement
carbs: are the brick layer
GOOD FAT: are like the bricklayers motivation, productivity etc

the protein are the building blocks of a house, but NEED carbs (cement to build the house and the bricklayer (insulin) to do the work and allow the house to be built),
and
fat is hard to describe but look at it as the bricklayers productivity and motivation, (how well he does the job) but just remeber the bricklayer can only be productive to a point, after that he doesnt become much more productive and has limited motivation, meaning u cant motivate him much more, in other words only a certain amount of fat will reap benefits, but after that, the more u consume the gains (muscle) will not equal the cost (fat gain)

im sure thats easy to explain to ur sister, rather then the scientific method

[ranging1]

the same applies for protein and carbs

to musch protein (bricks) will not all be utalised, becuase the builder can only build at a certain rate and only has limited cement (carbs)

the same applies for carbs, to much carbs (cement, builder) will help build the house faster but theirs a point where the cost will out weight the benifit, in other words ull have left over cement and workers that cant do anything since ders so many builders already

and excess workers and cement basically become fat storages

(try to remeber the house is u)

[DSM4Life]

shake and oats all i need.

[POPS]

shake and oats all i need.

^X2 here!