insulin spike - need clarification!

[POPS]

I had a conversation witha trainer at my gym and I had a brain fart and could not remember how to explain the whole ins. spike thing. Could someone help out? Eat, fitguy, jamy??

[jamyjamjr]

insulin spikes... in laymans terms when you eat simple carbs your insulin levels tweak out.. insulin is anabolic but it is also directly correlated to the storage of excess fat.. so in turn, if you eat the right carbs at the right times your insulin levels will not spike, instead they will rise to a certain level much lower then if you were to eat simple sugars and it also sustains energy longer because it takes longer to digest...


remember that complex carbs are multichained carbohydrates that take time to break down vs. semi-simple/simple carbs which your body absorbs fast.. makes sense right???

[jamyjamjr]

I had a conversation witha trainer at my gym and I had a brain fart and could not remember how to explain the whole ins. spike thing. Could someone help out? Eat, fitguy, jamy??

fitguy?? you mean fireguy1 lol.. i can see how you can make that mistake with how he looks so damn ripped in his avi.. i cant wait to drop to that bf..

[POPS]

fitguy?? You mean fireguy1 lol.. I can see how you can make that mistake with how he looks so damn ripped in his avi.. I cant wait to drop to that bf..

holy crap, sorry fireguy, lol!

[POPS]

insulin spikes... in laymans terms when you eat simple carbs your insulin levels tweak out.. insulin is anabolic but it is also directly correlated to the storage of excess fat.. so in turn, if you eat the right carbs at the right times your insulin levels will not spike, instead they will rise to a certain level much lower then if you were to eat simple sugars and it also sustains energy longer because it takes longer to digest...


remember that complex carbs are multichained carbohydrates that take time to break down vs. semi-simple/simple carbs which your body absorbs fast.. makes sense right???

so lets say that I have this insane craving for a glass of oj, is there a right or wrong time to have that drink? Or just stay away completly? Also, is this why we have pwo shakes to prevent insulin spikes?

[jamyjamjr]

a glass of oj will cause an unwanted spike.. i would omit.. better yet, forget about juice all together.. even 100% natural.. it's always better to eat the fruit then drink the juice... though i dont incorporate juice or fruit into my diet with the exception of a green to yellow banana..

pwo shakes are good because they give you a fast absorbing amino acid source.. after your workout your body is starved for amino acids.. it has nothing to do with insulin spikes..

though it is recommended to have a good carb source with your pwo shake.. but there are diff philosophies on the matter

[POPS]

a glass of oj will cause an unwanted spike.. i would omit.. better yet, forget about juice all together.. even 100% natural.. it's always better to eat the fruit then drink the juice... though i dont incorporate juice or fruit into my diet with the exception of a green to yellow banana..

pwo shakes are good because they give you a fast absorbing amino acid source.. after your workout your body is starved for amino acids.. it has nothing to do with insulin spikes..

though it is recommended to have a good carb source with your pwo shake.. but there are diff philosophies on the matter

gotcha on the pwo shake, I make mine with oats. Anyways, insulin spike is sugar from the liver that gets stored as fat right? Or am I all messed up here, lol?

[jamyjamjr]

when too much glucose is in your blood insulin comes in and takes care of it..

[Phate]

gotcha on the pwo shake, I make mine with oats. Anyways, insulin spike is sugar from the liver that gets stored as fat right? Or am I all messed up here, lol?

insulin spikes are due to increased blood sugar levels, glucose and insulin are basically opposites, when one goes up the other will also go up to keep it from getting too high(like test and estrogen)

insulin spikes are your bodies reaction to blood sugar spikes

[jamyjamjr]

think about a diabetic, there are those who are insulin dependent and need shots to bring down their glucose levels...

i see this all the time at work with my patients.. they start to lose their sight, theyre kidneys shut down sending them to dialysis, their hands and legs get cut off.. it all goes to hell..

glucose, if not kept under control, will kill you... a high glucose level can send you into diabetic coma and you wont wake up the same if you survive...

[jamyjamjr]

insulin spikes are due to increased blood sugar levels, glucose and insulin are basically opposites, when one goes up the other will also go up to keep it from getting too high(like test and estrogen)

insulin spikes are your bodies reaction to blood sugar spikes

wassup phate, good to have you back in here bud..

[Phate]

think about a diabetic, there are those who are insulin dependent and need shots to bring down their glucose levels...

i see this all the time at work with my patients.. they start to lose their sight, theyre kidneys shut down sending them to dialysis, their hands and legs get cut off.. it all goes to hell..

glucose, if not kept under control, will kill you... a high glucose level can send you into diabetic coma and you wont wake up the same if you survive...

same with insulin, each as dangerous as the other, well insulin is more potent dosage wise but you get what i mean

wassup phate, good to have you back in here bud..

good to be back, though not for long sadly

[jamyjamjr]

yea, absolutly...

[POPS]

understood. thanks phate, jamy.............

[sizerp]

a glass of oj will cause an unwanted spike.. i would omit.. better yet, forget about juice all together.. even 100% natural.. it's always better to eat the fruit then drink the juice... though i dont incorporate juice or fruit into my diet with the exception of a green to yellow banana..

pwo shakes are good because they give you a fast absorbing amino acid source.. after your workout your body is starved for amino acids.. it has nothing to do with insulin spikes..

though it is recommended to have a good carb source with your pwo shake.. but there are diff philosophies on the matter

Insulin is the body’s natural anabolic hormone and is essential for muscle development.

Yes, fruit contains fructose which is a very simple sugar. The body converts fructose into glycogen which is used as a building block for fat tissue.

Grapefruits and cherries are also acceptable next to green bananas. VARIETY is important as well.

There's a vast supply of vitamins and phytonutrients found in other fruits sand veggies. Don't be a nazi about things, just be smart. Peace of mind is also important.

[sizerp]

This is a more thourough explanation from Brian Calkins.

When you eat (or drink) a simple carbohydrate or a simple sugar – whether it is a can of soda, a scoop of fat-free ice cream, or even a glass of orange juice – all of the ingested sugar quickly rushes into your bloodstream. You typically feel a quick rush of energy. Your body then promptly reacts to this sudden spike in blood sugar by calling on the pancreas to produce additional insulin to remove the excess sugar from your blood. And for the moment, you have significantly lower blood sugar as a result of the insulin doing its job, resulting in a sense or feeling of needing more fuel, more energy and more calories. And as you hit that residual low blood sugar, you begin to crave more of the quick-release, simple sugars, and hence you have just initiated the sugar craving cycle.
As this downward cycle continues, your pancreas continues to secrete insulin while it simultaneously reduces its production of another hormone called glucagon. Glucagon production, as it relates to improving your body composition, is very important if your fitness goal is to lose excess body fat. Glucagon is the only hormone that allows stored body fat to be released into the bloodstream to be burned by your muscles as energy. And when the pancreas has to elevate its production of insulin while reducing its supply of glucagon, you are basically locking-in your excess body fat. Therefore, too much simple sugar intake dramatically hinders the process of reducing stored body fat.

[POPS]

This is a more thourough explanation from Brian Calkins.

When you eat (or drink) a simple carbohydrate or a simple sugar – whether it is a can of soda, a scoop of fat-free ice cream, or even a glass of orange juice – all of the ingested sugar quickly rushes into your bloodstream. You typically feel a quick rush of energy. Your body then promptly reacts to this sudden spike in blood sugar by calling on the pancreas to produce additional insulin to remove the excess sugar from your blood. And for the moment, you have significantly lower blood sugar as a result of the insulin doing its job, resulting in a sense or feeling of needing more fuel, more energy and more calories. And as you hit that residual low blood sugar, you begin to crave more of the quick-release, simple sugars, and hence you have just initiated the sugar craving cycle.
As this downward cycle continues, your pancreas continues to secrete insulin while it simultaneously reduces its production of another hormone called glucagon. Glucagon production, as it relates to improving your body composition, is very important if your fitness goal is to lose excess body fat. Glucagon is the only hormone that allows stored body fat to be released into the bloodstream to be burned by your muscles as energy. And when the pancreas has to elevate its production of insulin while reducing its supply of glucagon, you are basically locking-in your excess body fat. Therefore, too much simple sugar intake dramatically hinders the process of reducing stored body fat.

now this is what I was looking for! I need to print this one out to bring to my gym.

So eliminating simple-sugar will help speed this process up, right?

[sizerp]

Yes, eliminate simple sugars and you won't crave them as much. When you're eating primarily complex carbs throughout your day, that's when you can begin carb cycling to lose fat even without doing any cardio.

[Undercover]

gotcha on the pwo shake, I make mine with oats. Anyways, insulin spike is sugar from the liver that gets stored as fat right? Or am I all messed up here, lol?

Just be careful not to grind your oats or anything.

[POPS]

Just be careful not to grind your oats or anything.

youre joking about grinding the oats, right??

[M302_Imola]

youre joking about grinding the oats, right??

I hope he is! Grinding your oats is fine for pwo!