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    Hard gainer diet

    It seems like everywhere you look there is information or diet plans for people to loose weight or maintain weight. When was the last time you saw an infomercial at 2 in the morning for gaining weight?

    I'm 6', 143lbs and 24 years old. I have tried several times to add weight. Each time I fail. The last time I added a little belly fat. I'm getting ready to try again. I definitely give it my all during workout but I think my problem is my diet. I try to eat healthy and I know that without a solid diet (especially for hard gainers) your wasting your time.

    I have a diet plan written out for a weak. I'll repeat this diet weekly. I don't think this diet has enough calories each day. I haven't verified this but I think it averages around 3k and I have read I should be eating 4k to 4.5k with a goal of 229g protein a day. I am by no means an expert by any stretch of the imagination. So please review this and feel free to make any suggestions. Hopefully myself and other hard gainers can benefit from this.

    By the way, I hate cooking, so instead of cutting things up and mixing together, I just eat everything separately. For example, instead of cutting up a carrot for my salad, I'll eat the salad greens and then eat the carrot. So you will notice that in the diet below you can mix some of these items together to make stuff (but I don't).

    Day 1
    workout day
    Breakfast:
    10 egg whites
    1 cup mushrooms
    1 roma tomato
    4 oz low-fat cheddar cheese
    1 cup fruit
    12oz cottage cheese (1%)

    Snack
    22g protein powder (1 scoop) mixed in 8-10 oz of 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed in 8oz of grape juice

    Lunch
    5oz fat free turkey breast
    5oz ham slices
    4 oz fat free mozzarella cheese
    1 Roma tomato
    2.5 cups romaine lettuce
    2 oz avocado
    4 Tbls low fat ranch dressing

    Snack
    30 nuts
    2oz turkey jerky

    Dinner
    10oz salmon
    1 cup asparagus
    1 cup wild rice
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    1 cup vegetables

    Day 2
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    22g protein mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    1 cup fruit
    1 banana

    Snack
    22g protein mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    1oz nuts
    Caesar Salad

    Snack
    3oz cheese
    4oz soy nuts

    Dinner
    10oz turkey
    1 cup green beans
    1 cup butternut squash
    22g protein mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk

    Day 3
    workout day
    Breakfast
    8oz juice
    10 egg whites
    4oz chicken breast
    4oz fat-free parmesan cheese
    4 pieces of turkey bacon

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    4 cups salad greens
    10oz chicken breast
    3/4 cups celery
    1.5 cups vegetables
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk

    Snack
    4oz soy nuts
    12oz cottage cheese

    Dinner
    10oz Halibut
    1cup wild rice
    1cup zucchini

    Day 4
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    12oz 1% milk
    4 sausages
    2 english muffins
    4 oz fat-free mozzarella cheese

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    2.5oz steak
    1 cup arugula
    1/2 cups cherry tomatoes
    1/4 artichoke hearts
    4 tbsp balsamic vinaigrette

    Snack
    3oz cheese
    1oz nuts

    Dinner
    10oz chicken breast
    1 cup snap peas
    1 cup quinoa

    Day 5
    workout day
    Breakfast
    10oz 1% milk
    1 grapefruit
    10 egg whites
    1 cup roman tomato
    2 cups spinach
    4 oz cheese (feta)

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    2 cups coleslaw
    3oz low-fat swiss cheese
    10oz ground turkey breast (turkey burger)
    2 cups vegetables

    Snack
    12oz 1% cottage cheese
    2oz turkey jerky

    Dinner
    10oz Cod fish
    1cup wild rice
    1 artichoke

    Day 6
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    1 cup fruit
    1 banana

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    1 orange
    2 cups spinach
    1 red bell pepper
    1/4 cup raisins
    2 cups cabbage
    10 oz pork tenderloin

    Snack
    2oz turkey jerky
    1oz nuts

    Dinner
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    2 cups vegetables
    10oz steak
    1.5 cups broccoli

    Day 7
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    12oz 1% milk
    1/2 cantaloupe
    4 pieces turkey bacon
    10 egg whites
    4oz mozzarella cheese

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    4 cups salad greens
    2 cups vegetables
    5oz tuna

    Snack
    12oz 1% cottage cheese
    1oz nuts

    Dinner
    1 cup wild rice
    10oz chicken thighs
    2 cups asparagus
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk

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    Add macros to the diet. I would suggest you starting with one tipical diet. It's easier to do microcalibration in that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty2024 View Post
    It seems like everywhere you look there is information or diet plans for people to loose weight or maintain weight. When was the last time you saw an infomercial at 2 in the morning for gaining weight?

    I'm 6', 143lbs and 24 years old. I have tried several times to add weight. Each time I fail. The last time I added a little belly fat. I'm getting ready to try again. I definitely give it my all during workout but I think my problem is my diet. I try to eat healthy and I know that without a solid diet (especially for hard gainers) your wasting your time.

    I have a diet plan written out for a weak. I'll repeat this diet weekly. I don't think this diet has enough calories each day. I haven't verified this but I think it averages around 3k and I have read I should be eating 4k to 4.5k with a goal of 229g protein a day. I am by no means an expert by any stretch of the imagination. So please review this and feel free to make any suggestions. Hopefully myself and other hard gainers can benefit from this.

    By the way, I hate cooking, so instead of cutting things up and mixing together, I just eat everything separately. For example, instead of cutting up a carrot for my salad, I'll eat the salad greens and then eat the carrot. So you will notice that in the diet below you can mix some of these items together to make stuff (but I don't).

    Day 1
    workout day
    Breakfast:
    10 egg whites
    1 cup mushrooms
    1 roma tomato
    4 oz low-fat cheddar cheese
    1 cup fruit
    12oz cottage cheese (1%)

    Snack
    22g protein powder (1 scoop) mixed in 8-10 oz of 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed in 8oz of grape juice

    Lunch
    5oz fat free turkey breast
    5oz ham slices
    4 oz fat free mozzarella cheese
    1 Roma tomato
    2.5 cups romaine lettuce
    2 oz avocado
    4 Tbls low fat ranch dressing

    Snack
    30 nuts
    2oz turkey jerky

    Dinner
    10oz salmon
    1 cup asparagus
    1 cup wild rice
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    1 cup vegetables

    Day 2
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    22g protein mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    1 cup fruit
    1 banana

    Snack
    22g protein mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    1oz nuts
    Caesar Salad

    Snack
    3oz cheese
    4oz soy nuts

    Dinner
    10oz turkey
    1 cup green beans
    1 cup butternut squash
    22g protein mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk

    Day 3
    workout day
    Breakfast
    8oz juice
    10 egg whites
    4oz chicken breast
    4oz fat-free parmesan cheese
    4 pieces of turkey bacon

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    4 cups salad greens
    10oz chicken breast
    3/4 cups celery
    1.5 cups vegetables
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk

    Snack
    4oz soy nuts
    12oz cottage cheese

    Dinner
    10oz Halibut
    1cup wild rice
    1cup zucchini

    Day 4
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    12oz 1% milk
    4 sausages
    2 english muffins
    4 oz fat-free mozzarella cheese

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    2.5oz steak
    1 cup arugula
    1/2 cups cherry tomatoes
    1/4 artichoke hearts
    4 tbsp balsamic vinaigrette

    Snack
    3oz cheese
    1oz nuts

    Dinner
    10oz chicken breast
    1 cup snap peas
    1 cup quinoa

    Day 5
    workout day
    Breakfast
    10oz 1% milk
    1 grapefruit
    10 egg whites
    1 cup roman tomato
    2 cups spinach
    4 oz cheese (feta)

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    2 cups coleslaw
    3oz low-fat swiss cheese
    10oz ground turkey breast (turkey burger)
    2 cups vegetables

    Snack
    12oz 1% cottage cheese
    2oz turkey jerky

    Dinner
    10oz Cod fish
    1cup wild rice
    1 artichoke

    Day 6
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    1 cup fruit
    1 banana

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    1 orange
    2 cups spinach
    1 red bell pepper
    1/4 cup raisins
    2 cups cabbage
    10 oz pork tenderloin

    Snack
    2oz turkey jerky
    1oz nuts

    Dinner
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    2 cups vegetables
    10oz steak
    1.5 cups broccoli

    Day 7
    non-workout day
    Breakfast
    12oz 1% milk
    1/2 cantaloupe
    4 pieces turkey bacon
    10 egg whites
    4oz mozzarella cheese

    Snack
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    5g creatine mixed with 8oz grape juice

    Lunch
    4 cups salad greens
    2 cups vegetables
    5oz tuna

    Snack
    12oz 1% cottage cheese
    1oz nuts

    Dinner
    1 cup wild rice
    10oz chicken thighs
    2 cups asparagus
    22g protein powder mixed with 8-10oz 1% milk
    Honestly the diet looks very well thought-out... and a great place to start. I'd suggest that you start it.

    The kcals could be higher to be honest... but it has a nice structure. Easy to tweak.

    Are you working out at present?

    If so, add a small pro/carb (22gr pro; 30gr carb; 7gr fat) shake prior to, and after, your work-outs on gym days... It'll bump your recovery, and it'll bump your overall kcal intake... thus bumping your potential gains.

    Nice work there mate.
    -Corey "Narkissos" Springer

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    Every(intelligent)thing works (once aptly and consistently applied)
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    Hi Klimax and Narkissos.

    Klimax, are macros things like grains, vegetables and beans?

    Narkissos, I agree the kcals could be higher. Maybe I can boost it with macros as Klimax suggested? Any ideas where? Maybe in the snacks?

    For the pro/carb what should I add for the 30g crabs, 7g fat? One scoop of my protein powder has 22g protein, 4g carb, 2g fat and 8oz of 1% milk has 8g protein, 12g carb, 2.5 fat. So each protein shake in my above diet is really 30g pro, 14g carb, 4.5g fat. What do you suggest to fill in the rest of the carbs and fat?

    I am working out currently. However, at this time my main goal is to figure out my diet. From all I have read, as a hard gainer I could workout all the time and loose weight without a solid diet. I have also read the recovery time takes longer and to limit myself to 3-4 workouts a week. So my workout routine is on the back burner for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty2024 View Post
    Hi Klimax and Narkissos.

    Klimax, are macros things like grains, vegetables and beans?
    Macros = Proteins, carbs, and fats.

    Quote Originally Posted by scotty2024 View Post
    Narkissos, I agree the kcals could be higher. Maybe I can boost it with macros as Klimax suggested? Any ideas where? Maybe in the snacks?

    For the pro/carb what should I add for the 30g crabs, 7g fat? One scoop of my protein powder has 22g protein, 4g carb, 2g fat and 8oz of 1% milk has 8g protein, 12g carb, 2.5 fat. So each protein shake in my above diet is really 30g pro, 14g carb, 4.5g fat. What do you suggest to fill in the rest of the carbs and fat?
    Add one cup of frozen berries. That'll put you at 31gr carbs total. Don't worry bout the rest of the fat kcals.

    Quote Originally Posted by scotty2024 View Post
    I am working out currently. However, at this time my main goal is to figure out my diet. From all I have read, as a hard gainer I could workout all the time and loose weight without a solid diet. I have also read the recovery time takes longer and to limit myself to 3-4 workouts a week. So my workout routine is on the back burner for now.
    Once you're continuing to work-out while trying to figure out your diet, that's fine. *Don't* stop working out.
    -Corey "Narkissos" Springer

    Published Author.
    Owner of :
    Apollo Fitness Barbados etc
    Blogger

    Quote Originally Posted by texasmk4
    Nark is like intel, Brilliant inside and awsome outside :-)
    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    Here's a little-known-secret, that most people won't tell you: In the sphere of fitness, everything works.
    Every(intelligent)thing works (once aptly and consistently applied)
    It really is that simple.
    This is the perpetual bodybuilding paradigm
    **No Source Checks**
    Contact Me

  6. #6
    by marcos they mean how much of protien, carbs, fats and cals are in the food your eating. e.g. them things you read on the back of the packaging on the food you buy. i was the same when i was asked to put marcos on as i had no idea what they was haha.

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