Thread: Diet Critique
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12-01-2009, 07:13 PM #1Junior Member
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Diet Critique & Body Fat Estimation
Age: 29
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 173 lbs
BF%: ~15%
Ive made some strides with this diet and morning cardio in the past couple months, but I feel as though I am hitting a wall and my cravings for cheat meals have intensified.
It's becoming more difficult to want to stay on my diet, although I have remained disciplined, but what are some "clean" cheat meals if there is such a thing? And at what frequency do you eat them? Once/Twice a week?
Meal 1: Immediately upon waking I ingest some Glutamine and BCAAs, I also drink BCAAs while on the treadmill
Workout 1: 5:30 am 45 min cardio, walking on treadmill at an incline, keeping heart rate around ~120
Meal 2: Protein/Fat; whole eggs, egg whites, organic peanut butter
Meal 3: Protein/Carb meal; tuna low fat mayo and low fat crackers
Meal 4: Protein/Fat; steak, chicken, ground beef, fish, etc
Meal 5: Protein/Fat; steak, chicken, ground beef, fish, etc
Workout 2: after work 4:30 pm I normally train one body part per day
Meal 6: Post workout shake; 50g whey + 50g dextrose + 50g maltodextrin
Meal 7: Protein/Fat; steak, chicken, ground beef, fish, etc
Meal 8: Protein/Fat; right before bed whey protein and EFAs
*I always try to mix in some broccoli or green beans in with my protein/fat meals
*normally space meals 2-3 hours apartLast edited by jab1234; 12-02-2009 at 01:10 PM.
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12-01-2009, 07:23 PM #2
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12-01-2009, 07:31 PM #3Junior Member
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-I eat the veggies for the fiber content to make sure I don't get plugged up with all of the protein Im eating.
- Meal 3 you said could be better, and this is my carb meal. Could you give me an example
- No high intensity at all, only time is if I treadmill after my workout. My heart rate remains around ~150 and I perform this for 30 minutes max
- Ive read in many stickies that the PWO shake should consist precisely of the meal I listed, to my understanding the simple carbs are to shuttle protein to my body more quickly. Am I incorrect in this?
Thanks
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12-01-2009, 07:35 PM #4
1. you want to be denying the body of carbs, so adding veggies in at each meal does the opposite.
2. Crackers are not a good carb source. How about add all your veggies here. or just eat some sweet potato or something.
3. I would do some HI
4. This is very contradictory. I always say no simple carbs at all. Let me find you a link give me a sec
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12-01-2009, 07:37 PM #5
POST workout fast carb! Which one or ones?
read this. I like everybody and have heard both ways but I agree 100% with BINO.
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12-01-2009, 07:42 PM #6Junior Member
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Interesting, seems like there are some differing schools of thought here. This is an excerpt form the sticky posted on "How to Cut", that explains the fibrous veggies and PWO shake:
1.Postworkout Nutrition- I’m a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).
2. Carbs- You are **** right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they don’t count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams.
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12-01-2009, 07:58 PM #7
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12-01-2009, 09:30 PM #8Junior Member
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for PWO what do you think about 50g Whey, 1/2 cup oats, 1 medium yellow banana and water blended into a shake? Is the banana too high in GI?
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12-01-2009, 09:32 PM #9
It all depends on your dedication level. banana will not kill you. Not that bad at all, but why do oats and a banana?
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12-01-2009, 09:49 PM #10Junior Member
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I can't eat oats straight up, I've tried to man up, but its just not going to happen. I found that I can blend it up dry with protein powder water and a banana to make it actually tasty. I've tried it without the banana but it seems like it helps with the viscosity and texture of the shake.
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12-01-2009, 09:52 PM #11Junior Member
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Also do you recommend HI cardio first thing in the morning or post workout? Should I alternate between LI and HI every other day?
Is it too much to perform the 45 minutes in the morning and also another 30 minutes post workout on the same day, for lets say 4 days/week?
thanks again
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12-01-2009, 10:13 PM #12
go for it then, If I were bulking with aas I would do it.
WHen you get to below 10% I would recommend no more am cardio, and do pwo cardio only(or cardio by itself) doing long sessions at a low intensity. If cardio is NOT pwo and you have a low bf%, then you might want to do HIIT for the first 20 minutes for HI once every 5 minutes.
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12-01-2009, 10:33 PM #13
Fibrous veggies will not have any real impact on carbohydrate intake unless they are eaten by the truckload. Remember, fiber is not stored as fat or glycogen under any circumstances. IMO, they're a safe and nutritious way to help fill your stomach when eating an otherwise joyless diet.
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12-01-2009, 10:39 PM #14Junior Member
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I'll incorporate the HI short bursts into my morning sessions. Also I didn't state this in my original post, but I am definitely looking to cut, I'd like to get back to <10% BF.
With that being said if you think that my recipe for a PWO shake is more for bulking, then I will adjust it accordingly.Last edited by jab1234; 12-01-2009 at 10:41 PM.
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12-02-2009, 06:05 AM #15Junior Member
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What body fat % do you think this is, and how the hell can I put some thickness on my chest.
I went from 185 lbs to currently 173 lbs in the past two months on the diet and cardio above. I'd like to get below 10% at whatever weight and then try an do a slow and steady clean bulk
I even got to the point I was working out chest twice a week since it was lagging so far behind
Current chest routine consists of:
1. incline dumbbell press
2. flat dumbbell flyes
3. decline dumbbell press
4. low or high cable cross overs
5. rotate between dips and pullovers
For years I just tried to put up as much weight as possible on chest, (for the ego) but realized I was employing my delts entirely too much. So I switched to the routine above with lower weight and slow controlled movements with a serious squeeze at the top of the motion.
My form is in check now, as I have a slight arch in my back and stick the chest out and focus on squeezing the muscle.
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12-02-2009, 07:20 AM #16
maybe 15? give or take. Yeha chest seems to be lacking. Maybe ditch the flyes and stick to the benches and dumbell presses. Thats another topic but check the workout section.
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12-02-2009, 03:13 PM #17
I know but, Veggies would kick you out of keto no?
I have not done research on keto diets thoroughly enough.
It is more for bulking but by looking at your pic you need a little bulk in your life. You should do well on this diet. If you gain fat just drop cals accordingly and the best thing to do is up cardio.
You are overtraining, whether it be not eating enough, or just working out too much, or doing too many sets (I think you are doing way too many sets).
here is what you should try for a month or two
incline bench db
4 sets - warmup, 4, 4, 12-16(failure)
Flat Bench
3 sets - 4, 4, 12-16(failure
Decline Flyes
3 sets - 12, 12, 10-12
once you can do 6 reps on the 4 rep sets, up the weight.
only train chest once a week.
try to do a 2 on 1 off schedule. ex legs, back, rest, chest, shoulders, rest
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12-02-2009, 08:33 PM #18Junior Member
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I'm definitely doing too many sets, I perform 4 sets of each exercise above at about 8 reps each
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