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01-22-2010, 11:45 AM #81
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01-22-2010, 12:08 PM #82Junior Member
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I cant believe how sick i feel in the stomach doing this CKD diet. Does that feeling go away? first week is probably the hardest?
Chris
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01-22-2010, 12:26 PM #83
haha yea i used ot buy alot of supps now i only buy protein powder and creatine. But it takes me about a year ( or more) to go throuhg an entire container of creatine so its not that bad. I also have so glutamine left over and thinking about buying bcaa's to reduce the loss of muscle while on the diet.
But what do u mean by ALA? is that the carb cheater? Are you sure these do work when on the diet?
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01-22-2010, 01:28 PM #84Junior Member
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On your carb up day , fri night and sat. does the body start building muscle? Seems like it would.
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01-22-2010, 01:35 PM #85
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01-22-2010, 01:45 PM #86
R-ALA is a potent insulin -mimicking agent. It speeds the removal of glucose (sugar) from the blood AKA Glucose disposal agent!
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01-22-2010, 01:55 PM #87
ahh ok thanks TOP, one more question, prolly not my last either but ive been tyring to dirnk more and more water lately, is it considered drinking water if you put in 0 calorie powders like crystal lite
so if i drank 32 ounces of water of 16 of ti was with the powdered mix would it rly be like i drank 32 oz?
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01-22-2010, 02:18 PM #88
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01-22-2010, 02:40 PM #89
makes sense haha
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01-22-2010, 03:44 PM #90
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01-22-2010, 03:48 PM #91Junior Member
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Last week I started a low carb diet with only carbs being broccoli and coliflower and sticking with 40 g protein every 3 hours. Scared of loosing my gains. And then I came accross your thread and switched over to ckd. So I was already low on the carbs just needed to increase fats andlower the protein. The mental discomfort hit hard today. Didn't want to work. I'm at the gym now getting ready to start the full body workout. Had a banana an hour ago and have 100g waximaize starch and 50 g protein ready for after workout. Can't wait to feel the carb load. I should look fuller from that, right? Happy carbing guys. It's fri!!!!!!
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01-22-2010, 04:33 PM #92
^Good glad to here you are depleting,you may feel bloated i always do but monday is what i look forward to!! I get amazing pumps and im noticeably stronger!
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01-22-2010, 05:24 PM #93
hey TOP, wife down 13 lbs-in 18 days---her split has been more like 45 pro -50 fat -5 carbs--gonna try and get her more toward 60 /35/ 5 and see what happens
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01-22-2010, 06:29 PM #94
Wonderful to here!! Tell her i said good job im proud of her!!
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01-22-2010, 06:54 PM #95
will do---thanks man
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01-23-2010, 02:30 AM #96
I think this definitely deserves Sticky Status.
Big respect Top. Great article and patience with all the follow up answers.
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01-23-2010, 08:28 AM #97
Great thread Top.....
would 4 weeks be a decent amount of time to see results?
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01-23-2010, 08:36 AM #98
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01-23-2010, 08:44 AM #99
im just having a look really...i might try it for 4 weeks in the spring....ive changed my diet up a bit this year and going to give it a good go for a few months first.....
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01-23-2010, 09:55 AM #100Junior Member
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01-23-2010, 10:00 AM #101
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01-23-2010, 10:03 AM #102
can milk be used on carb up days?
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01-23-2010, 11:09 AM #103
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01-23-2010, 11:09 AM #104
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01-23-2010, 12:57 PM #105
Great post top
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01-23-2010, 02:36 PM #106New Member
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Aight so I dont post often but I couldnt pass this one up. Been doing this "diet" for 9 weeks. The first 2 weeks were keto only (missed my carbup bc of some bs) the next 7 weeks have been pure CKD. BTW Top is my trainer, and the last 7 weeks Ive also been on my first cycle, 500mg/wk Test-E. My stats are as follows: 5'6" 185lbs 17%bf. At the beginning of this diet I weighed 185 and was at 25% bodyfat at least if not more. Ive went from 37 waist to 32, increased muscle mass and strength. Some of this is obviously from the Test...But this is the easiest diet to follow and keep up with. You see visible results every week and after the carb ups your strength goes through the roof. My diet is closer to the Bodyopus version which is 70% fat 30% pro, 40 calories or less carbs. After week one, you feel amazing on the Fat-pro during the week. So good in fact that you may stop craving carbs altogether. Thats the rub though. This diet is designed to burn fat AND spare muscle mass. Hence the high fat ratios. Really goes against all you've been taught to believe but its phenomenal. I follow this program closely, my weekly caloric intake is 1700+-, this includes, pepperoni, ham, sausage, hotdogs, pork loin, hamburger, steak, fatty fish, dark meat chicken, cheese (lowcarb or nocarb), cream cheese-full fat only, fish oil, canola oil, natural peanut butter (2 TB or less per day), spam lite, full fat mayo. The workout plan is...Do what TOP says! cuz he's my trainer and why pay someone if your not going to do what they say. We workout monday-tuesday, cardio wed-thurs, deplete friday (hopefully am!). First 4 meals 128g dextrose, the rest of the carb-up is ratios of high to low GI carbs ranging from twinkies and little debbies (control!) to bagels and sweet potatoe fries, maybe a pizza thrown in. To me you get better results on monday if you eat through the night but you still get results either way. Read the books if you can find them. TOP knows his sh!t.
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01-23-2010, 03:37 PM #107
hey top, it might be a pain, but if you dont mind, you think you can PM me your diet, Im about 90 pages into the book but it hasnt gotten very much into what exactly to eat yet. I'de just like an example of what ude eat on one of the keto days and then one of the carb days.
Thanks for all the help
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01-23-2010, 04:11 PM #108Member
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I have a question about the full body workout. So I workout M-F hitting one body part per day. I hit it hard doing 3 excercises and 3 sets of 6-8 reps with heavy enough weight that I go to failur in 6-8 reps. This has always worked best for me. Usally on Friday I do back so I was thinking that I would skip back on the Sat full body workout. Here is what I did today. First, my pre-workout meal was stil a pro/fat one.
Supersetting everything and 3 sets 10 reps:
Chest: flat bench and flys
Arms: Curls and tricep pull downs
Shoulders: Presses and side lats
Legs: Leg press and stiff legged dead lifts also hit my calves here
Abs
I got a real good pump and was able to be done in 40 mins or so. Right after I had a pro/carb meal and will carb up through Sun. What do you think?Last edited by edgarr; 01-23-2010 at 04:48 PM. Reason: forgot
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01-23-2010, 06:11 PM #109
I do just regular keto foods that are on a keto diet.If you want ideas research the Adtkins diet, its keto. As far as the carb load i use maltodextrin,bagels,corn flakes,rice cakes ive used oatmeal creme pies and other snack foods but do my best to steer clear of FRUCTOSE and SUCROSE at all cost.
There are a few things in the book you have (BODYOPUS) that i disagree with and there are things in lyle mcdonalds book i disagree with.But i ty to take things from each and mold it to fit my own beliefs...TOP
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01-23-2010, 06:17 PM #110
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01-23-2010, 06:19 PM #111
To "THEUFAN"
Wazzup!!
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01-23-2010, 06:37 PM #112Member
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01-23-2010, 06:38 PM #113
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01-23-2010, 08:13 PM #115
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01-24-2010, 11:21 AM #116Associate Member
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what does your workout look like on friday. the fullbody one?
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01-24-2010, 02:35 PM #117
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01-25-2010, 01:25 AM #118
During the keto-phase; does it matter how many cals above TDEE? With 70% of cals via fat, it's easy to go way over naturally.
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01-25-2010, 03:24 AM #119
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01-25-2010, 05:44 AM #120Junior Member
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If i stay true to this diet 100% , how long do you think itll take to get down to single digits from 18-19% body fat?
Chris
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