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    New proposed diet (would like to gain mass)

    Hey guys,

    Well I have been a member here for about a month (give or take) and have learned heaps off you all. I had made myself a diet (which twist helped me heaps with) to get up to scratch and was able to finally get my abs showing for the first time ever even the lower abs *crowed goes wild*.

    Well now in Aus it's Autumn and I would like to put on some muscle, I'm confident that I can get my bf down so putting on some fat is not too much of an issue so long as I'm getting some muscle out of it.

    So here is my proposed diet with a macro split of 40/30/30

    Meal 1 7:30am

    4 whole eggs 24.6/2.5/24.4/334
    4 egg whites 14.3/1/0.2/68
    1 cup of oats 13/54.3/5.1/311


    Meal 2 10:00am

    120g chicken breast 36.9/0/4.2/196
    1 cup of brown rice 5/44.4/1.7/215


    Meal 3 12:30pm

    120g chicken b 36.9/0/4.2/196
    200g sweet potato 2.7/35.4/0.3/152


    Meal 4 3:00pm

    Whey 27/2/1/120
    0.75 cup of oats 9.7/40.7/3.8/233


    Meal 5 5:30pm

    150g beef silverback 44.2/0.0/14.3/318
    1.5 cup of vegetables 4.3/18.3/6.1/131


    Meal 6 8:00pm

    125g tuna 34/0/5/248
    22 almond kernels 6.3/5.5/15/169

    Meal 7 10:30pm

    Casein 24/4/1/120
    1 tablespoon peanut butter 4/3.1/8.1/94



    Total calories: 2960
    Macronutrient total: 286.9/211.6/100.6
    Macronutrient percentage: 40/30/30

    My TDEE is 2699.48, I would prefer not to put on to much fat hence why I added approx an extra 200 cal on top of my TDEE. But if any of you think I should go higher on the cals just tell me.
    Last edited by frodo89; 03-30-2010 at 05:20 AM.

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    I wouldn't claim to be any expert, but this diet looks great to me. Macros are spread out nicely, and the diet is super clean. Great job! I'll be looking to add some mass in a month or so and will be doing a very similar diet to this. Mine won't be as clean though, need to add in some pasta!

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    how many cals were u eatin on ur cuttin diet---and for how long?

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    Not bad diet.

    Are you going to use steroids or going natural?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    I wouldn't claim to be any expert, but this diet looks great to me. Macros are spread out nicely, and the diet is super clean. Great job! I'll be looking to add some mass in a month or so and will be doing a very similar diet to this. Mine won't be as clean though, need to add in some pasta!
    Thanks gb, took me a while to get the macros right, but had a decent crack at it and came up with that. I was thinking of putting in some whole wheat pasta in there too might do it some justice actually. Let me know how you go!
    Quote Originally Posted by mg1228 View Post
    how many cals were u eatin on ur cuttin diet---and for how long?
    I was at 2700 exactly i did this for about 2 weeks as it was my first time actually eating 7 meals a day properly adjusted to my TDEE. Then I dropped this to 2500. Now Im back at 2700
    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiebb View Post
    Not bad diet.

    Are you going to use steroids or going natural?
    Thanks ausiebb, Im going natural here. In aus it's to hard to find someone you trust to get your hands on good stuff that has not been cut to 1/10 of what it used to be

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    With a diet like that,pity your not using abit of test

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    This is my mates bulking diet.

    He has won two ifbb comps in aus and will be doing bigger things soon

    Meal 1 - 715am
    2 scoops protin
    1 cup raw oats
    1 banana
    2 slice of toast
    3 fishoils caps

    Meal 2. 9.30
    200grams Chicken
    300 grams brown rice.

    Meal 3 - 1100am
    2 scoops protein
    1 cup raw oats ( Or ON Mass Gainer shake & subway or maybe burger and chips... cheat meal following back or leg day)
    1 tablspoon Natty PB

    Meal 4 - 12.45pm
    200 grams Lean Mince
    300 grams Brown Rice

    Meal 5 - 3.00pm
    200 grams chicken
    200 grams brown rice

    Meal 6 - 4.15
    20 grams BCAA
    10 grams Creatine
    1 scoop ON Vassice EA8
    200grams waxy maize

    Train
    Sip on 2litres water with
    20 grams BCAA
    10 grams Creatine
    1 scoop ON Vassice EA8
    50 grams glucose

    Meal 6 - 6.30 -
    60grams protein
    100grams waxy maize

    Meal - 7.30
    200 grams Chicken
    300 grams white rice
    Mixed veggies

    Meal 8 - 8.30
    200 grams Lean Mince (this could also be a cheat meal if I choose, however it wont be routine, has to be a meal, not desert like)
    400 grams Sweet Potato

    Meal 9. 10.30
    60 grams protein
    1 table spoon Natty PB

    Meal 10 - (When wake at in night)
    50 grams protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by frodo89 View Post
    Hey guys,

    Well I have been a member here for about a month (give or take) and have learned heaps off you all. I had made myself a diet (which twist helped me heaps with) to get up to scratch and was able to finally get my abs showing for the first time ever even the lower abs *crowed goes wild*.

    Well now in Aus it's Autumn and I would like to put on some muscle, I'm confident that I can get my bf down so putting on some fat is not too much of an issue so long as I'm getting some muscle out of it.

    So here is my proposed diet with a macro split of 40/30/30

    Meal 1 7:30am

    4 whole eggs 24.6/2.5/24.4/334
    4 egg whites 14.3/1/0.2/68
    1 cup of oats 13/54.3/5.1/311


    Meal 2 10:00am

    120g chicken breast 36.9/0/4.2/196
    1 cup of brown rice 5/44.4/1.7/215


    Meal 3 12:30pm

    120g chicken b 36.9/0/4.2/196
    200g sweet potato 2.7/35.4/0.3/152


    Meal 4 3:00pm

    Whey 27/2/1/120
    0.75 cup of oats 9.7/40.7/3.8/233


    Meal 5 5:30pm

    150g beef silverback 44.2/0.0/14.3/318
    1.5 cup of vegetables 4.3/18.3/6.1/131


    Meal 6 8:00pm

    125g tuna 34/0/5/248
    22 almond kernels 6.3/5.5/15/169

    Meal 7 10:30pm

    Casein 24/4/1/120
    1 tablespoon peanut butter 4/3.1/8.1/94



    Total calories: 2960
    Macronutrient total: 286.9/211.6/100.6
    Macronutrient percentage: 40/30/30

    My TDEE is 2699.48, I would prefer not to put on to much fat hence why I added approx an extra 200 cal on top of my TDEE. But if any of you think I should go higher on the cals just tell me.
    looks pretty good to me---where does ur workout fall? between meal 3 & 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frodo89 View Post
    My TDEE is 2699.48, I would prefer not to put on to much fat hence why I added approx an extra 200 cal on top of my TDEE. But if any of you think I should go higher on the cals just tell me.
    I think 200 calories is a bit conservative.

    A guideline I have always used for my clients is (3/4 x LBM (lbs)) + TDEE =Bulk or TDEE - (4x LBM) (lbs) = Cut

    Edit: if you notice the 3/4 you can use 3 or 4 depending on your size. Use at your discretion.

    Some schools of thought recommend 2kcal per lbs of body weight. Its really up to you what you deem necessary but from my experience 200 kcal is a bit low. I feel the minimum should be at least 400
    Last edited by RoadToRecovery; 03-31-2010 at 09:14 PM.

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    This is not my diet, also dont want to say to much about this bloke.I mainly giving a guidelines of what a top notch diet will contain.

    The bloke is also a sponsored bodybuilder, hence the extra protein shakes lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiebb View Post
    With a diet like that,pity your not using abit of test
    I have a good mate of mine that is going for a cheat meal everyday that follows a leg or a back day too. But poor guy, you should see him train, it's like he is having a cardiac arrest every time he is about to hit his 10th rep. But that diet must have worked for him pretty well considering what he's accomplished.

    haha, as for the test, I'm probably going to have to go to Mexico and get it over the counter or something the dollar bills send them loco. Only way I know that it's actually going to be test in the bottle not olive oil.
    Quote Originally Posted by mg1228 View Post
    looks pretty good to me---where does ur workout fall? between meal 3 & 4?
    Thanks mgs as long as I know I'm kind of on the right track that's good news. Yea my workout is in between meal 3 and 4, Im trying your complex carbs PWO for a while see how my body takes it and will try compare it to the simple carbs PWO.
    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToRecovery View Post
    I think 200 calories is a bit conservative.

    A guideline I have always used for my clients is (3/4 x LBM (lbs)) + TDEE =Bulk or TDEE - (4x LBM) (lbs) = Cut

    Edit: if you notice the 3/4 you can use 3 or 4 depending on your size. Use at your discretion.

    Some schools of thought recommend 2kcal per lbs of body weight. Its really up to you what you deem necessary but from my experience 200 kcal is a bit low. I feel the minimum should be at least 400
    I thought 200 might be a bit to low from what I was reading, but I dropped 20 mins of cardio PWO and I am just doing 20 as opposed to 40 minutes when i was eating close to and bellow my TDEE.

    I just started this diet today, so I'm not to sure how I'm going to go with just 200 cals. Do you think I should wait about 2 weeks before I increase it and see how my body reacts before I add another 200 or just go for gold and up it another 200 now?

    What do you think I should increase if I did put on the extra 200 cals? Mabey another meal in there somewhere or just increase the other meals. Thanks RTR.

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    if ur not too worried about some fat gain--go with the 400 like rtr suggested

    im more of a fan of the lean bulk---which is why i would go the 200 and adjust from there--i also wouldnt cut the cardio down--i would up it---but thats just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by mg1228 View Post
    if ur not too worried about some fat gain--go with the 400 like rtr suggested

    im more of a fan of the lean bulk---which is why i would go the 200 and adjust from there--i also wouldnt cut the cardio down--i would up it---but thats just me
    I know what you mean, I would prefer not to put on the extra fat but it might have to be a sacrifice I have to make to put on some extra muscle. Why do you think I should bring cardio up mg (more than 40 mins a day) is it so I burn the surplus calories on my TDEE and go for a lean bulk?

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