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    I need a diet advice for my workout and goals.

    Hi
    First of all im a 33 years old male, 91kg(i dont know my bf % but because of my disorganized life style i can tell you that i have some belly fat and im not shreded), 1.77m height. I have worked out on and off from the age of 20, mostly being off. I want to begin again my workouts and to gain some lean muscle mass. So here is my 4 day/week trainning method.

    Monday : Pectorals and biceps _ I do a total of 12x8 sets for pecs,and a
    total of 10x8 sets for biceps

    Tuesday : Legs _ I do a total of 16x8 sets for the upper part of
    leg and 8x12 sets for the calves

    Wednesday : Back and triceps _ I do a total of 15x8 sets for back and a
    total of 10x8 sets for triceps

    Thursday : Day off

    Friday : Shoulders and trapezoid _ I do a total of 12x8 sets for shoulders
    and a total of 8x10 sets for trapezoid

    Ok now here it is my diet too

    Meal 1 : 3-4 whole eggs with 2 slices of toasted wholegrain bread, about 80 gr of light chees and 80 gr of ham

    Meal 2 : About 200 grams of grilled chicken breast or steak or broil pork tenderine with some green veggies

    Meal 3 : Half grilled chicken(500gr with bones) or a steak or some grilled meat with pickle in some cases or green veggie

    Workout

    Meal 4 : Pwo shake( 48 grams of whey) mixed with 5 grams of creatine, and 20 grams of added suggar. Here i want to ask if its better to use dextrose instead of normal sugar.

    Meal 5 : 80 grams of oat mixed with 24grams of whey protein and 100ml of 1.5% fat milk.

    Ok, can someone critique my workout and eating behaviour and give some advices to change something if i do it wrong or to tell me with this kind of diet and this workout where i can get. Thanks in advance for the answers and excuse my bad english, it is not my mother language.
    Last edited by R69; 03-30-2010 at 08:53 AM.

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    fill out the info in this type of format so ppl here can better help u. Make sure u fill out all the info. You can get ur macros from the food labels directly or u can use fitday.com or nutritiondata.com. If u dont know ur BF then search online BF calculators, they can more or less tell u where ur at. Just move ur workout to wutever time u do it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    Age: ?
    Height: ?
    Weight: ?
    Bodyfat Percentage: ? If you don't know, post a pic or pm a reliable member for an estimate
    TDEE: ?
    BMR: ?
    Goals: ? (gain or lose how much, in what time period, and don't just say gain muscle and lose fat)

    Diet Plan
    Meal 1 (time)
    food1 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food2 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food3 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    Total macros = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat

    Meal 2 (time)
    food1 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food2 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    Total Macros = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat

    Workout (time)
    (insert where your workout is in the diet plan, and how long it is, and whether you do cardio or not)

    Meal 3 (PWO) (time)
    food1 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food2 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food3 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    Total Macros = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat

    Meal 4 (time)
    food1 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food2 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food3 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    Total Macros = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat

    Meal 5 (time)
    food1 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food2 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food3 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    Total Macros = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat

    Meal 6 (before bed, Time)
    food1 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food2 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    food3 = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat
    Total Macros = __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat

    Total Macros for the Whole Day
    __g protein, __g carbohydrates, __g Fat, TOTAL CALORIES___, TDEE___

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    Thanks for the help but if i knew all the data its needed in that chart probably i would know how to pick a good diet and a proper workout and to figure out all my question by myself. I live in eastern europe and belive me here not all products have the macros on the label of the food, i dont know how fat must be a steak or a grilled chicken.Its hard for me to enter and calculate the calroic valors on an english or a site from sua, here we do not calculate in oz, cups,tbs I dont know what tdee or bmr . Im a diet noob but my goals are not to be very big or to be shreded ass hell, i would like to be more atheltic than im now. On the picture from the avatar its me if someone can tell how my bf perecetage it is or can i pm someone with better pics to estimate it for me? Ok, if someone can tell me some advices from what i have posted its okey, if not i will do my search that will take a feew days and fill in more info. Thanks.
    Last edited by R69; 03-30-2010 at 10:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mg1228 View Post
    ....need to know ur tdee---use the info below to figure it---also need macros for each meal

    make sure u watch the videos at the bottom---imo theyre a must for everyone wanting to learn how to eat



    if you have not already done so, post up your stats

    age
    weight
    height
    bf
    goals.. be specific

    please take the time to follow these directions, they will better prepair the both of us for the critique and tweaking of your diet..

    you need to figure our your BMR (this is the basal metabolic rate of your body... which means if you were to do nothing all day, ur body would burn these many calories)

    once u'v figured out your BMR, u need your TDEE (this is your total daily energy expenditure, it's based upon your activity level)


    But first things first, please post up your current diet.. you have to be brutally honest about what you've been eating on average for the last few weeks so i know where your metabolism is at..
    please include macros

    MACROS = pro/fat/cal/carb of every meal and a daily total on the bottom
    you can use fitday . com to help you our with this... be as detailed and specific as possible

    please include the time of when u eat and the time of your workout

    example:

    6am pro/carb/fat/cal
    10 egg whites 50/0/0/200
    1/2 cup oats- 3/50/2/218
    53/50/2/418


    REMEMBER

    1g protien - 4cal
    1g carb - 4cal
    1g fat - 9cal
    1g alcohol - 8cal (some would argue 7)



    also tell me what your workout reg is...



    BMR formula #1 (if you bf is high, use this one... you need an accurate bf reading)


    BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)



    in order to figure out your bmr, you need to know what your lean body mass is.. so, in turn, u need to know what your body fat percentage is...

    if you dont know your bodyfat percentage, go to your gym and get tested (please dont use electronic scales to get your bf checked, they're horrible)

    if you cannot find a gym to get tested at, please post up a picture for estimates, we're pretty good at it (you also have the option of pming it to me if you have more then 25 posts)

    Total weight x bf in decimel form = total bf weight

    Total weight - total bf weight = total lean body mass

    if your total lean body mass is in lbs, u can divide it by 2.2 to get it in kilograms..

    for example..

    i am 6'4 275lbs at 14% bf... so i would multiply 275 by .14 (converted from percent to decimal)= 38.5lbs

    275 - 38.5 = 236.5lbs lean body weight

    236.5 / 2.2 = 107.5 lean mass in kg

    370 + (21.6 x 107.5) = 2692 BMR (this is high for the average person, im a big guy)




    BMR formula #2 (only to be used if your bf is low)

    Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )


    female BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )


    TDEE

    Once u have you bmr, u need to calculate your TDEE, this is simply done with some multiplication...

    you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

    To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


    If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

    I should also give you an idea of what dieting should look like... you need to make sure every last calorie you take in isn't an empty calorie... every time you eat you should be eating with a purpose which is to fuel your body for growth and fat loss (predicated on your goals)...

    Good meats/protien to eat..

    Chicken Breast
    Turkey Breast
    Eggs/Egg Whites
    Bison/Deer Meat
    93% and up lean beef (ground beef, roast beef, london broil are just a few examples)
    Fish (tuna, salmon, talipa etc..)
    Whey (PWO ONLY)
    Casien (BEDTIME ONLY)

    Good Complex Carbs

    Oats (not that instant crap, all natural steel cut/rolled oats)
    Sweet potatos
    Yams
    Wheat Bread (no, not the enriched type)
    Ezekiel Bread
    Glutin Free Bread

    Good Essential Fatty Acids

    Almonds
    Avocado (my fav)
    Cashews
    EVOO (extra virgin olive oil)
    Fish Oil



    You can google endless more where that came from.. get creative..

    Also, try to seperate your pro/carb and pro/fat meals, usually leaving your pro/fat meals for bedtime... Beefs should be eaten closer to bed time and usually falls between the last and second to last meal

    PROTIEN SHAKES (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CASIEN SHAKES) SHOULD BE CONSUMED POST WORKOUT ONLY!!!!!! DO NOT CHEAT YOURSELF BY REPLACING A MEAL WITH PROTIEN SHAKE, THEY DO 1/8 OF WHAT REAL FOOD WILL DO FOR YOU IN ITS PLACE...


    Below are links to a great series of diet/nutritional vidoes that will give you a better idea as to what dieting is. Please remember that Milos only gives you a standard diet while we are trying to CUSTOMIZE one with you. This is why we need your BMR/TDEE and MACROS

    Milos Sarcev "Secret of the Pro's" on Nutrition

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516


    You can run a great many types of diets.. low carb, high carb, carb cycle, keto, etc.... there is no ONE right way.. the best thing you can do is pick one and stick to it while paying attention to how your body is reacting to it... some people are carb sensetive, some are not... you'll have to find out yourself

    MICROCALIBRATION - Microcalibration is a must for dieting.. usually based upon your goals you will be set either 500 calories above or below your TDEE. This is a starting point and you need to be checking yourself by weight or measurment every week to scale how your body reacts..

    try to remember that dieting is not an overnight thing.. it takes time and patience....

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