Visceral Fat

[rocheey]

50 yrs, 5'10", 210 lbs, 15% BF, still natural

"Lifted Weights" most of my life, body building for last year or two.

I was one of those guys who -could not gain-. Always shredded, thats it.
Started lifting smarter, sleeping more, and eating like a freakin Clydesdale for the last 6 months, and it paid off - put on mass, but I got a damn belly. I look Like Im pregnant with a six-pack painted on the outside. Not much in the way of subcutaneous fat.

Is this strictly diet-related? Do certain foods cause this, as opposed to subcutaneous fat ?

Do I have to shred down to get rid of all of this (and stop trying to gain?)

And, if it matters, Im wearing my asbestos underwear, so if you feel the need, let it fly

[gbrice75]

50 yrs, 5'10", 210 lbs, 15% BF, still natural

"Lifted Weights" most of my life, body building for last year or two.

I was one of those guys who -could not gain-. Always shredded, thats it.
Started lifting smarter, sleeping more, and eating like a freakin Clydesdale for the last 6 months, and it paid off - put on mass, but I got a damn belly. I look Like Im pregnant with a six-pack painted on the outside. Not much in the way of subcutaneous fat.

Is this strictly diet-related? Do certain foods cause this, as opposed to subcutaneous fat ?

Do I have to shred down to get rid of all of this (and stop trying to gain?)

And, if it matters, Im wearing my asbestos underwear, so if you feel the need, let it fly

Congrats on the recent gains! It's probably diet - and quite possibly alot of water retention. What does your sodium intake look like? Post up your diet and lets have a look...

[rocheey]

ummm, well .. here goes <blush>

5:00 30 grams whey protien
5:30 multi vitamin, fish oil, dhea
6:30 pancakes, sausage, homefries (yeah, I know, but i have a kid to feed)
7:30 20 grams whey protien, 5 grams creatine, workout drink
8:00 1 hour workout (3 day split, 6 days a week)
9:05 40 grams protien, fruit, multivitamin, fish oil
9:30 eat a whole precooked chicken, quart of milk from grocery store next to the gym
10:30 "Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
12:00 chicken, fish or burgers - whatever Im not sick of, & veggie
12:30 1 hour power nap
1:30 "Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
3:00 raid the frig for leftover whatever, and 30 grams whey protien
4:00 "Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
5:30 "Normal" crappy teenage supper, with some decent meat on the side for me
7:00 30 grams whey protien, 5 grams creatine,multi vitamin, fish oil, dhea
8:30 some crap snacks - chips, crackers, etc - and some ZMA
9:30 Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
9:35 in bed

[gbrice75]

ummm, well .. here goes <blush>

5:00 30 grams whey protien
5:30 multi vitamin, fish oil, dhea
6:30 pancakes, sausage, homefries (yeah, I know, but i have a kid to feed)
So feed this to your kid and not yourself! You really don't need me to tell you that this entire meal needs to go, do you?

7:30 20 grams whey protien, 5 grams creatine, workout drink
Since you're dropping that horrendous 6:30 meal (you are, aren't you?), you need to add some complex carbs to this meal. Add 1 cup of oats (real whole oats, not oatmeal sugar packets). Add 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites as well

8:00 1 hour workout (3 day split, 6 days a week)
9:05 40 grams protien, fruit, multivitamin, fish oil
Whey protein I assume? Drop the fruit, add another cup of oats here

9:30 eat a whole precooked chicken, quart of milk from grocery store next to the gym
The whole chicken? Time to drop it and go for the breasts only. do 6oz skinless chicken breast here. Drop the quart of milk too, good god, a ton of sugar! Add brown rice or a sweet potato here

10:30 "Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
Eating often is a good thing, but you're eating every hour - TOO often! Drop the eggs here, do another lean protein source and some more complex carbs - but not at 10:30 - make it 2.5 - 3 hours after your last meal

12:00 chicken, fish or burgers - whatever Im not sick of, & veggie
Just drop this meal alltogether, plus your 10:30 meal is in it's place now

12:30 1 hour power nap
1:30 "Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
Drop this entire meal

3:00 raid the frig for leftover whatever, and 30 grams whey protien
Raiding the fridge doesn't tell us anything about what you're eating - but drop the whey protein here, eat real food - another lean protein source and either a complex carb or EFA source

4:00 "Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
Again? Drop it, again =)

5:30 "Normal" crappy teenage supper, with some decent meat on the side for me
Decent meat = lean protein + veggies cooked in EVOO here

7:00 30 grams whey protien, 5 grams creatine,multi vitamin, fish oil, dhea
Drop the whey here

8:30 some crap snacks - chips, crackers, etc - and some ZMA
Um, drop it? Eat real food here, more lean protein, more veggies

9:30 Frappe" of 3 eggs, 3 cups powdered milk, 6 scoops peanut butter
NOT AGAIN! Drop the entire meal - do a Casein shake and 2 tbsp of Natty PB
9:35 in bed

Ok, there's a TON wrong with this diet - but you asked for it! Comments in bold. Would need to see the meals listed with all macro info to really be able to offer help here, but I made some obvious (to me) adjustments. You are eating WAY too much, WAY too often. Do you have any idea how many calories you're consuming in a day? I'm surprised you can see abs at all, you should be FAT from this diet. Not knocking you, but it's really bad bro! Time to make some adjustments if you ever want to drop bodyfat!

Let's see a revised diet posted with macro info in the form of Protein/Carbs/Fat/Total calories. Yes, this means you have to track and calculate everything you eat. It's a MAJOR pain in the ass, but we all do it. Good luck, looking forward to seeing what you have!

[rocheey]

Yeah, Im over 5000 calories a day (im getting almost 3000 in the shakes alone) and I guess I went overboard with finally being able to gain - muscle and/or fat - and since i could still see my abs from the front, I guess i never noticed the "growth" from the side profile :/ ... suddenly, I saw "SilverBack"

Guess I'll start biting more bullets, and less other stuff, and will post a revised plan... thx

[gbrice75]

Yeah, Im over 5000 calories a day (im getting almost 3000 in the shakes alone) and I guess I went overboard with finally being able to gain - muscle and/or fat - and since i could still see my abs from the front, I guess i never noticed the "growth" from the side profile :/ ... suddenly, I saw "SilverBack"

Guess I'll start biting more bullets, and less other stuff, and will post a revised plan... thx

Yea, you really need to find out what your TDEE (maintenance calories) is so we have a number to work with. Also, you should really try and focus more on real food and only take shakes PWO (whey) and possibly right before bed (Casein) - other than that, it should be real foods all day long. Just my .02