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    clen/taurine/ketofifen diet help

    Have taken clen before with this diet before with great results, now I am adding ketofifen instead of benadryl. Should any changes be made to this diet?

    Age: 23
    Weight: 215
    BF%: ~20
    Height 6’3”

    Goal: 200lbs and 12-14% BF

    BMR: 3924 Cals

    Meal 1 8:00am: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 Whole egg: 6g 5g 0g 76
    6 Egg Whites: 18g 0g 0g 102
    ½ Cup Oats: 4g 2.5g 27g 150
    1 Scoop Protein: 16g 6g 8g 150
    TOTAL: 44g 13.5g 35g 478


    Meal 2 1:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    Broccoli Spears 3.5oz: 2g 0g 4g 25
    Green Apple: 0g 0g 25g 95
    Chicken 4.2oz: 27.2g 1.5g 0g 130
    TOTAL: 29.2g 1.5g 29g 250


    Meal 3 1:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    Broccoli Spears 3.5oz: 2g 0g 4g 25
    Green Apple: 0g 0g 25g 95
    Chicken 4.2oz: 27.2g 1.5g 0g 130
    TOTAL: 29.2g 1.5g 29g 250


    Meal 4 2:30pm Pre-Workout: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    Mixed veg 2/3cup: 2g 0g 11g 100
    1 Can Tuna: 37g 2.5g 0g 175
    1 cup fat free cottage 26g 0g 10g 140
    cheese
    TOTAL: 65g 2.5g 22g 415


    Meal 5 PWO 5:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 fish fillet: 20g 2.5g 0g 100
    1 bagel w/ cream cheese: 13g 6g 55g 320
    TOTAL: 33g 8.5g 55g 420



    Meal 6 8:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 Can Tuna: 37g 2.5g 0g 175
    ½ Cup Oatmeal: 4g 2.5g 27g 150
    TOTAL: 41g 5g 27g 325


    Meal 7 Before Bed: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 tbsp. honey: 0g 0g 17g 60
    2 Scoop Protein: 32g 12g 16g 300
    7 inch banana: 1g 0g 27g 105
    Total: 33g 12g 43g 465


    DAILY TOTALS:

    268.2g Protein
    68g Fat
    254g Carbs
    2678 Calories


    any suggestions would be great guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfs321 View Post
    Have taken clen before with this diet before with great results, now I am adding ketofifen instead of benadryl. Should any changes be made to this diet?

    Age: 23
    Weight: 215
    BF%: ~20
    Height 6’3”

    Goal: 200lbs and 12-14% BF

    BMR: 3924 Cals

    Meal 1 8:00am: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 Whole egg: 6g 5g 0g 76
    6 Egg Whites: 18g 0g 0g 102
    ½ Cup Oats: 4g 2.5g 27g 150
    1 Scoop Protein: 16g 6g 8g 150
    TOTAL: 44g 13.5g 35g 478


    Meal 2 1:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    Broccoli Spears 3.5oz: 2g 0g 4g 25 I don's see a need to measure fibrous veggies
    Green Apple: 0g 0g 25g 95 I'd replace the apple with an EFA
    Chicken 4.2oz: 27.2g 1.5g 0g 130 I'd raise the protein here to at least 6 oz.
    TOTAL: 29.2g 1.5g 29g 250


    Meal 3 1:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    Broccoli Spears 3.5oz: 2g 0g 4g 25
    Green Apple: 0g 0g 25g 95
    Chicken 4.2oz: 27.2g 1.5g 0g 130
    TOTAL: 29.2g 1.5g 29g 250
    Same advice as meal 2

    Meal 4 2:30pm Pre-Workout: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    Mixed veg 2/3cup: 2g 0g 11g 100
    1 Can Tuna: 37g 2.5g 0g 175
    1 cup fat free cottage 26g 0g 10g 140
    cheese
    TOTAL: 65g 2.5g 22g 415
    Personally, I'd add some carbs pre-work out

    Meal 5 PWO 5:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 fish fillet: 20g 2.5g 0g 100
    1 bagel w/ cream cheese: 13g 6g 55g 320
    TOTAL: 33g 8.5g 55g 420
    I prefer low GI carbs pwo, but whatever works for you


    Meal 6 8:00pm: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 Can Tuna: 37g 2.5g 0g 175
    ½ Cup Oatmeal: 4g 2.5g 27g 150
    TOTAL: 41g 5g 27g 325
    Not a bad meal, I just wouldn't wait 3 hours between your pwo meal and your ppwo meal

    Meal 7 Before Bed: Protein Fat Carbs Calories
    1 tbsp. honey: 0g 0g 17g 60
    2 Scoop Protein: 32g 12g 16g 300
    7 inch banana: 1g 0g 27g 105
    Total: 33g 12g 43g 465
    I'd drop the honey and banana and add an EFA

    DAILY TOTALS:

    268.2g Protein
    68g Fat
    254g Carbs
    2678 Calories


    any suggestions would be great guys
    ^Bolds above.

    What's your cardio schedule like?

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    hey thanks for the quick and detailed response!

    my cardio for this week is 30 mins every evening...due to work I can only hit the gym in the evenings now so I use the elliptical for 30 mins and get about 45 minutes of good lifting in right after.

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    also, what does efa stand for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfs321 View Post
    also, what does efa stand for?
    Essential fatty acids. As D7M used the term, it refers to all healthy fats such as nuts, olive oil, avocados, etc. - however, you should look to get 8-12g of omega-3/6/9 fatty acids as well.

    As for your cardio, you should be doing it PWO not before lifting. This ensures that your glycogen is fully depleted and more fat is burned in the process. Also, doing 45 minutes at a lower intensity on the stairmaster or full-incline walking treadmill would make a big difference. As much as a 1/2 pound of fat per week I'd think.

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    just to clarify, is ketofifen something that aids you in entering ketosis or is it strictly for use with clen at night time.

    I was just planning on using it with clen in place of benadryl, but if I need to adjust my diet to be a Keto diet I will.

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    I dunno. Always just cycled my clen 3 weeks on, 2 off when doing keto and never used a keto supp.

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    Is that casein protein before bed? you didn't clarify.

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    yes that is casein protein before bed.

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    can anyone recommend a dosage for the keto at night? I have ar-r's keto, it is a 30ml bottle at 1mg/ml

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfs321 View Post
    just to clarify, is ketofifen something that aids you in entering ketosis or is it strictly for use with clen at night time.

    I was just planning on using it with clen in place of benadryl, but if I need to adjust my diet to be a Keto diet I will.
    Despite their similarities in names, ketotifen has nothing to do with helping you enter into ketosis.

    Ketotifen will help upgrade your receptors while on clen.

    Quote Originally Posted by golfs321 View Post
    can anyone recommend a dosage for the keto at night? I have ar-r's keto, it is a 30ml bottle at 1mg/ml
    1mg/ED will work.

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    thanks! will post back with results, would adding a strict keto diet while taking clen do anything? or should I just stick with one or the other. Ive been reading alot about keto diets on here

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