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    Little diet advice

    I'm 20, 6'5, 230pounds, approximately 22-23% BF. I'm planning on starting my diet this coming Monday but I'm unsure of what diet I should follow. I'm a pretty easy eater, I like almost everything.

    I have a mindset on what I need to do and what supplements to take but I'm having trouble finding a diet plan that fits my stats. I'm going to be doing STS cycle taking ON HydroWhey as BCAAs, multi-vitamins, and L-carnitine as preworkout. I'll also be doing HIIT 3-4 times a week. I've already lost 45 pounds but I wasn't on a strict diet, my next goal is to drop down to 14-15% BF.

    Heres just an idea, not sure how far off I am.

    Meal1:Scrambed eggs - Breakfast
    Meal2:Protein Shake
    Meal3:Tuna meal - Lunch
    Meal4:Banana/Apple - Snack
    Meal5:Chicken

    I know its not much, but its a start. If anyone could give me some input on my diet it would be GREATLY appreciated.

    TDEE = 3466
    BMI = 27.3
    Last edited by MFnatic; 08-12-2010 at 12:31 PM.

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    Your diet needs alot of work.

    You need to incorporate good carbs, and EFAs.

    Calculating your macros will also help us.

    I suggest you read through the stickes, check some threads with similar diets, and re-work your diet for critique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Your diet needs alot of work.

    You need to incorporate good carbs, and EFAs.

    Calculating your macros will also help us.

    I suggest you read through the stickes, check some threads with similar diets, and re-work your diet for critique.
    x2 on all of the above.

    No offense but based on that diet, i'll bet you're eating less than a girl. You cannot expect to see any gains with that diet.

    Every meal should have a lean protein source, and meals should be 2.5 - 3 hours apart, no more than 3. Each meal should also contain a complex carb or healthy fat, or a small combo of both (personally I like to keep them separate within reason).

    As D7M said, read the stickies and also check out the plethora of diets posted in this section that have already been critiqued and tweaked. That should get you on a good roll.

    When you're ready, repost your diet here and include all macro info (protein/carbs/fat/total calories) for each meal, time of day for each meal, and where your workout fits into the day. We can take it from there.

    PS - I doubt your TDEE is 6000, but even if it's close to that, your current diet is probably yielding you under 2000 calories a day - so you are starving yourself.

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    I just got done watching Milos Sarcev "Secret of the Pro's" and I have such a better prospective in dieting, really learned a lot from the videos. I'll be updating my diet and posting it up, working on a high protein low carb/fat diet.

    PS - I doubt your TDEE is 6000, but even if it's close to that, your current diet is probably yielding you under 2000 calories a day - so you are starving yourself.
    After watching the video I feel like eating more is going to be a challenge for me, I barely eat. I went back and I did calculate my TDEE wrong. I have it updated

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFnatic View Post
    I just got done watching Milos Sarcev "Secret of the Pro's" and I have such a better prospective in dieting, really learned a lot from the videos. I'll be updating my diet and posting it up, working on a high protein low carb/fat diet.


    After watching the video I feel like eating more is going to be a challenge for me, I barely eat. I went back and I did calculate my TDEE wrong. I have it updated
    That looks much more realistic! But yea, if you wanna grow you're gonna have to eat. There's no way around it, no shortcuts, no alternative. Eat more than you burn = gains. Now of course, the quality and composition of those gains will be directly determined by your diet and workout regimen.

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    Yeah, I'm trying to get everything together as quickly as possible. I've been doing alot of research and watching different videos on here. I'm going to be doing STS workout plan and dieting on a high protein and low carb/fat. I'm shooting for around 300p, 100-125c, and 40-50f. Diet I have so far is as follows:

    Meal 1: 9:00 A.M. - 500ml egg whites, 1 cup Oatmeal, teaspoon natty PB
    Meal 2: 11:30 A.M. - 500ml egg whites, 1 banana
    Meal 3: 2:30 P.M. - 2 chicken breasts, 1 can tuna
    Meal 4: 4:45 P.M. - 50g whey, 1 banana OR 1 apple
    Workout: 5:15 P.M.
    Meal 5: 7:30 P.M. - 8 oz lean ground beef (strained and rinsed), 1/2 cup salsa
    Meal 6: 9:30 P.M. 4-6 whole eggs

    Is 9:30 too late to be eating If i go to sleep around midnight-1am?

    I'm having some trouble, I'd like to eat some simple carbs postworkout but I'm unsure of whats good since I'm trying to lose body fat.

    Please shoot some suggestions as they're warmly welcomed!

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    You need to eat before bed.casein or some cottage cheese will do just fine. I always make casein pudding with some Naturally more pb

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFnatic View Post
    Yeah, I'm trying to get everything together as quickly as possible. I've been doing alot of research and watching different videos on here. I'm going to be doing STS workout plan and dieting on a high protein and low carb/fat. I'm shooting for around 300p, 100-125c, and 40-50f. Diet I have so far is as follows:

    Meal 1: 9:00 A.M. - 500ml egg whites, 1 cup Oatmeal, teaspoon natty PB I'd remove the PB here in favor of a whole egg. I'll add it back later.
    Meal 2: 11:30 A.M. - 500ml egg whites, 1 banana No banana, do complex carbs again.
    Meal 3: 2:30 P.M. - 2 chicken breasts, 1 can tuna Why 2 breasts and tuna? Learn to measure your food for success. One 6-8 oz. breast is a good portion for any 1 meal. This one looks to have 100g+ of protein, lol. Replace all the excess with complex carbs such as oats, sweet potato, brown rice, lentils, corn, etc.
    Meal 4: 4:45 P.M. - 50g whey, 1 banana OR 1 apple Swap this with meal 5 and add a carb source. To confirm: meal 4 = ground beef, salsa (smaller portion, maybe 1/4 cup at most), 40g carbs via any good complex source. Meal 5 now = Whey + fruit PWO (however, the fruit should be replaced with a low GI carb such as 1/2 cup oats). Carb consumption will end there and we'll taper off to pro/fat.
    Workout: 5:15 P.M.
    Meal 5: 7:30 P.M. - 8 oz lean ground beef (strained and rinsed), 1/2 cup salsa See above, now is PWO shake.
    Meal 6: 9:30 P.M. 4-6 whole eggs Bad meal. Too much saturated fat. A pro/fat (no carb) meal is ideal at this hour but it should look something like this: 8 oz. chicken breast (example of lean protein), 2 cups broccoli (example of fibrous, non-starchy carb), 1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil (example of healthy fat).

    12:00 AM: Add a meal containing slow-digesting protein and fat. Examples of such protein sources are red meat, casein powder, and cottage cheese. The added fat source will spare the protein and further slow digestion as you sleep. Sample meal: 1 scoop casein shake with 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter. I'll explain why this is important below.

    Is 9:30 too late to be eating If i go to sleep around midnight-1am? It's too late to be eating carbs. You said you watched the Milos videos. I recall him saying it's not about what time you eat but the food choices. Unused carbs are simply stored as glycogen when digested. When glycogen stores are full, excess carbs spill over into fat cells and make you gain body fat. As such, we should not eat carbs late at night when sedentary. However, protein and fat aren't stored in such a way and will have the same effect on your body when eaten at any hour, be it 8:00 AM or Midnight. It's very, very important to eat a protein/fat meal right before bed as to ensure your body has a source of amino acids to draw from and feed the muscles while you sleep without actually eating for 8+ hours - otherwise, the bodily functions that occur in your sleep will actually be burning muscle! This is a loose, simple explanation but it is key.

    I'm having some trouble, I'd like to eat some simple carbs postworkout but I'm unsure of whats good since I'm trying to lose body fat. See above. I've ensured you won't be sabotaging weight loss with the corrections (provided your total cals are below TDEE - however, you will lose body fat faster if you cut off carb consumption PWO - meaning no fruit, oats, or anything. Fats can have a beneficial effect on protein synthesis just the same. So if you really wanna speed up fat loss, you can always have some peanut butter in your PWO shake instead.

    Please shoot some suggestions as they're warmly welcomed!
    Bold. Correct and re-post with macros please. Getting better.

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    Thank you so much Damien, I really appreciate your help! I'll be updating my new list shortly. The only thing I'm confused of what you said was

    however, you will lose body fat faster if you cut off carb consumption PWO - meaning no fruit, oats, or anything.
    Should I not eat anything at all after coming home from the gym or just not eat anymore carbs for the day?

    I will be adding PB to my shake PWO, thanks for the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFnatic View Post
    Thank you so much Damien, I really appreciate your help! I'll be updating my new list shortly. The only thing I'm confused of what you said was


    Should I not eat anything at all after coming home from the gym or just not eat anymore carbs for the day?

    I will be adding PB to my shake PWO, thanks for the tip.
    I think Damien's saying that since your workout is relatively late in the day, you might consider dropping all carbs around that time. You should most definitely eat, just not carbs. Damien, correct me if I have you wrong.

    Personally, i'd suggest carbs immediately PWO along with your shake; this way you're getting a little bit of insulin activity (I wouldn't do simple carbs though, we don't want a huge spike at this time of the day) but it's still early enough where you have a few hours before bed. Definitely no carbs beyond that meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    I think Damien's saying that since your workout is relatively late in the day, you might consider dropping all carbs around that time. You should most definitely eat, just not carbs. Damien, correct me if I have you wrong.

    Personally, i'd suggest carbs immediately PWO along with your shake; this way you're getting a little bit of insulin activity (I wouldn't do simple carbs though, we don't want a huge spike at this time of the day) but it's still early enough where you have a few hours before bed. Definitely no carbs beyond that meal.
    Nope, you're spot on.

    And yeah, that would be the best course of action, I think no carbs at all PWO could certainly gimp recovery.

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    Sweet, thanks guys! This is my diet up to date.

    Meal 1: 9:00 A.M. - Whole egg, 1 cup Oatmeal
    Meal 2: 11:30 A.M. - 500ml egg whites, whole wheat toast with PB
    Meal 3: 2:30 P.M. - 6-8 oz chicken breast
    Meal 4: 4:45 P.M. - 1 tuna can, humus, whole wheat pita bread OR 8 oz lean ground beef (strained and rinsed) and 2 whole wheat toasts
    Workout: 5:15 P.M.
    Meal 5: 7:00 P.M. - 50g whey + 1 tbs natural PB PWO
    Meal 6: 9:30 P.M. 8-6 oz Chicken breast, 2 cups broccoli, 1tbs extra virgin olive oil
    Meal 7: Midnight - Cottage Cheese, 1 splenda, 2 tbs natural PB

    Still have to calculate macros, whats the easiest way to do so? Thoughts meanwhile?
    Last edited by MFnatic; 08-12-2010 at 08:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFnatic View Post
    Sweet, thanks guys! This is my diet up to date.

    Meal 1: 9:00 A.M. - Whole egg, 1 cup OatmealI think Damien meant add ad whole egg to the egg whites you were already eating. 1 egg is nothing, man.
    Meal 2: 11:30 A.M. - 500ml egg whites, whole wheat toast with PB
    Meal 3: 2:30 P.M. - 6-8 oz chicken breast Never have a protein only meal. Add an energy source, whether it be carbs of EFAs
    Meal 4: 4:45 P.M. - 1 tuna can, humus, whole wheat pita bread OR 8 oz lean ground beef (strained and rinsed) and 2 whole wheat toasts
    Workout: 5:15 P.M.
    Meal 5: 7:00 P.M. - 50g whey + 1 tbs natural PB PWO
    Meal 6: 9:30 P.M. 8-6 oz Chicken breast, 2 cups broccoli, 1tbs extra virgin olive oil I like this meal
    Meal 7: Midnight - Cottage Cheese, 1 splenda, 2 tbs natural PB You don't need 2tbsp of PB at any meal. One tbsp is fine.

    Still have to calculate macros, whats the easiest way to do so? check any online food calculators, fitday.com, calorieking.com. things like that, and get cracking! Thoughts meanwhile?
    bolds above.

    good luck.

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    I've been stressing because my diet starts Monday and I'm still tweaking it. This is what I have so far:

    Meal 1: 9:00 A.M. - 500ml egg whites (52.4p), Whole egg (4.7p,0.3c,3.7f), 1 cup Oatmeal (5.4p, 22.5c, 2.1f)
    Meal 2: 11:30 A.M. - 500ml egg whites (52.4p), 1 whole wheat toast(3.5p, 16c, 1f) with 1 tbs PB(4p, 3.1c, 8.1f)
    Meal 3: 2:30 P.M. - 6-8 oz chicken breast (62.7p,11.1f)
    Meal 4: 4:45 P.M. - 1 tuna can (42p,5f), 1/2 cup of humus(10p,18c,12f), 1 whole wheat pita(5.5p,33.4c,0.7f)
    Workout: 5:15 P.M.
    Meal 5: 7:00 P.M. - 50g whey + 1 tbs natural PB(4p, 3.1c, 8.1f) PWO
    Meal 6: 9:30 P.M. 8-6 oz Chicken breast (62.7p,11.1f), 2 cups broccoli(7.4p, 22.5c, 1.2f), 1tbs extra virgin olive oil(14f)
    Meal 7: Midnight - 3/4 cup Cottage Cheese (21p,4.6c,1.7f), 1 splenda(0.3c), 1 tbs natural PB (4p, 3.1c, 8.1f)

    P = 391.7
    C = 126.6
    F = 87.8

    I'm shooting for 300p, 100-120c, and 40-50f.

    I need some help cutting some protein out. Maybe I should just cut off a whole meal? I would also like to add an apple or a banana to my daily diet. I'd prefer to not eat any carbs after my workout because I'm trying to lose body fat as fast as possible.

    Please criticize!

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    I've gotten my macros updated a little more. I'm still having a lot of trouble figuring out what I should take out and what to fill in. I need some carbs with my chicken for meal #3 but I'm clueless as what to add. I'm already over my daily pro/carbs/fat so it's just over whelming. Let me just repeat myself so we're on the same page, I'm trying to lose as much body fat as I can. I'd like to not consume ANY carbs after my PWO meal because that'd help me lose BF faster. Anyone have food suggestions that would lower some of my stats? Please help me out, thanks!


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    If you're not gonna take the advice you're given, there's no point in continuing this thread. Go back at look at my advice and then D7M's following critique - you will see that you have not implemented some very necessary changes.

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    I've made some changes, I didn't add a carb to meal 3 before because I was already over my daily carb limit. I also swapped out PB and replaced it with 1/4 cup of oats along with my shake for meal 5. I now need some help dropping about 65g of protein, 50g of carbs and about 10-15g of fat.

    Updated diet:


    Please shoot me some ideas

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