36 hour fast twice a week has any one tried this
http://www.*************/free_online...g10_pulse_fast
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36 hour fast twice a week has any one tried this
http://www.*************/free_online...g10_pulse_fast
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I didn't even click the link to be honest, but I can't see fasting being good for anybody into BBing... it's a sure fire way to slow down your metabolism.
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your soppose to use PeptoPro with this diet or fast
Vitamin Enhanced Sociopathic Post Whore
I dont fast for that long. But I do use intermittant fasting.
Ill go 12-16 hours.
I only sip on BCAAs to help prevent muscle break down
And as for Gbrices statement... sorry but your wrong. lol.
For your "average" bodybuilder it can help.
Has a few plus's
-Gives your body a rest from processing so much food.
-Lets your body focus on repairing and other bodily fuctions
-Helps insulin resistence
-Studies have shown in rats that when they were made to fast, then allowed to "binge eat" they gained the same OR MORE weight then the rats who were kept to their normal diet.
So if you fast then binge eat (healthy binge eating. lots of protein, healthy fats, and low GI carbs) your body is in such a fasting state, that it will suck up all that food and put it to good use.
Think of it like Carb cycling... youll cut carbs to zero or very low, then carb up.
Same idea, except its with all your food, not just carbs.
I did it most of this summer, I got the HEAVIEST, and LEANEST, Ive ever been.
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Actually my profile pic was taken after a few weeks of fasting, 1 or 2 times a week.
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No need to apologize, this is how we learn. Makes sense - 12-16 hours isn't long enough to really slow metabolism or get into starvation mode. 36 hours is pushing it IMO...Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw
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wow this is the response i was looking for so after the fast how would i diet if my body is very insulin sensitive?
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Oh Really - who is that in your avy?
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an ex... why you know her?
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Nah, just wanted to say she's very attractive, with all due respect. But damn now you have the molecule for test or something up there, not quite as pretty!
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ha ha its the ostarine molecule,,, i got some on the way..
Vitamin Enhanced Sociopathic Post Whore
well what are your goals? If your bulking, then normal diet. just watch your fats and sugars. large of amounts of lean protein and low GI carbs. some fruit.
nothing special really.
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you gonna make a log? ive been looking into it. may try it.
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ill be doing more then making a log..hint...but with the diet im just tired of being the fat guy in the gym...
Vitamin Enhanced Sociopathic Post Whore
you wouldnt slow down your metabolism to such a degree with even 36 hours of fasting, that it would harm you or your goals, id say.
you have to remember. we are in shape (well most of us on the board) so our bodies arent doing normal processes like average/overweight ppl.
If one of us did do that long of a fast, it wouldnt be without "support." As in... BCAA's to help prevent muscle breakdown, lots of water to flush the system (which your body burns calories in order to process water so thatll keep your metabolism active) also add in green tea (antioxidents and also metabolism boosting properties) as well as Caffeine.
So if done properly there shouldnt be any negative affect on your metabolism.
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well ill be doing it as soon as my order of PeptoPro, comes in
Vitamin Enhanced Sociopathic Post Whore
whats PeptoPro?
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All good points D, thx! =)
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PeptoPro is the best protein to use for recovery and pre and post-workout. PeptoPro now sets the standard of how all other proteins are judged for post-workout. No other protein supplement surpasses PeptoPro quality and performance. PeptoPro is the first debitterized, hydrolyzed (pre-digested) protein powder made of mostly all di and tri peptides under 300 daltons. In addition, it is the BEST mixing protein powder in existence. So good that PeptoPro actually turns clear when mixed with water.
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OP, the link is broken
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The Universal Problem
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Because if you're like most lifters, you've looked at fat loss and muscle gain as two separate and very different strategies. As a result, you've mistakenly programmed your body to function as a very efficient fat-storage machine that's resistant to building muscle.
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Hey, this is a universal problem that happens at every level of weightlifting. If we're brutally honest with ourselves, most of us would have to admit that we're oscillating, like a giant, slow-moving pendulum, between "chubby-strong" and "skinny-fat."
It's absolutely true.
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Christian's referring to a certain powerful metabolic effect that occurs from pulse-dosing MAG-10 over an extended period. Essentially, extended MAG-10 pulsing is the nutritional strategy we've been using to hold onto muscle mass while shredding-up competitive bodybuilders.
Thing is, we got a lot more than we expected — not only did we produce a profound anabolic response, we also produced a powerful thermogenic effect, as well.
Even more impressive — shocking actually — is that we witnessed greater rates of muscle gain and fat loss than when either fat loss or muscle building are done separately.
Dr. Tim Ziegenfuss believes we're resetting the fat cell's hormone-release pattern to induce an anabolic metabolism that's fueled by the body's own fat stores, which is where we get the term thermo-anabolic.
Fasting over a 36-hour period, while pulsing with doses of MAG-10, enhances insulin sensitivity in both muscle and fat cells. Due to the fasting state, the loaded MAG-10 formula hits the bloodstream super fast and sends what amounts to an anabolic shockwave right into the muscle. At the same time, fat cells are signaled to release their contents for fuel.
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Even though it's technically complex, a MAG-10 Pulse Fast is pretty simple and painless to do. It only takes 36 hours, 16 of which you'll be sleeping, and you'll be on your way to being an easy-gainer.
THE BASICS
1) First Step — Stop eating by 9:00 pm the night prior to the MAG-10 Pulse Fast, and consume nothing but water until the next morning when you drink your first pulse.
2) The Pulse Fast Period — From 7:00 am until 9:00 pm (14 hours), consume only MAG-10 pulses, water between pulses, and Alpha-GPC. After 9:00 pm, consume nothing but water until awaking the next morning when you'll resume eating your usual diet.
Hopefully, you'll be following a good dietary strategy. If not, find one that best fits your goals, and begin moving that direction.
3) Number of Pulse Fasts Per Week — One or two pulse fasts per week is all that's required. If you choose to do two, make sure there's at least one day in-between. We've found the two best days of the week are Mondays and Thursdays.
PULSING
Don't get hung up on precise timing. Just follow these simple rules and you'll get the maximum benefits from a MAG-10® Pulse Fast:
1) Timing — Make sure there is at least one hour and no more than three hours between pulses. The only exception to this rule is peri-workout timing (see below).
2) Workout Period — When working out, you want to take full advantage of the enhanced physiologic state induced from training. This is when your body is sucking nutrients right into muscle and it's why we recommend pulsing three times around the workout:
• immediately prior to training
• mid workout
• immediately after training
If you want to really enhance effects and take ANACONDA, simply add two scoops to the mixture when preparing Bottle 2.
3) Pulses Per Day — As a general rule, pulse a minimum of 8 times on non-workout days and 10 times on workout days.
EXPECTATIONS
Think Carryover Effect
MAG-10® Pulse Fasts are designed not to simply dump fat off the body, but to do something much more powerful — to jumpstart your body into easy-gainer mode, and to eventually keep it there.
So don't fixate so much on what happens the day of the pulse fast, but instead, notice what occurs over a three-day period. In other words, as long as you stay active, and follow a good dietary strategy, there's a powerful carryover effect that lasts for several days.
As soon as the effects taper, or shortly thereafter, hit another pulse fast. Typically, this means you'll be on a pulse fast once or twice per week.
The Day of the Pulse Fast
The day you pulse fast, you will lose 2 or 3 pounds of weight (and as much as 4 or 5 pounds), coming mostly from fat and water. But the real benefit from thermo-anabolic metabolism occurs in the two days after the pulse fast, when your body is extra sensitive to building muscle and burning fat.
The Few Days After
Coming off a pulse fast the body is primed to suck nutrients into muscle and to not store body fat. So take full advantage of this enhanced physiology by following effective dietary and training strategies, and really load up on the peri-workout nutrients.
This is especially true for the first day after the pulse fast, where you'll get a profound rebound effect. To really take advantage of the effect, you'll want to increase training volume, and if you can do it, train twice that day. You'll also want to use extra ANACONDA, MAG-10, and Workout Fuel each time you train.
Long-term
Again, the overall goal is to get your body as muscular and lean as possible, and keep it there! All you have to do is get your body's physiology to cooperate.
The MAG-10 Pulse Fast produces the thermo-anabolic physiology that begins to morph the body into the muscular-lean look of a bodybuilder.
All you have to do is, allow it to happen.
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I couldn't go 6 hours much less 36.
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ya I'm expecting to be a cranky bitch
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I would not advise this strategy... 12 hours is one thing (You can easily sleep that long). 36 hours is not a good idea. Further, don't do it two times per week. I am sure starving yourself will make you lose weight, but you can also gain it easier. All they are talking about is making your muscles glycogen depleted. I talked about this in my Manage your Holidays thread. I have read about some marker that gets turned on when you fast, and this also can get passed down if females fast while pregnant. There are better ways IMO. Starving yourself to get skinny is not a new strategy.
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heres everything you need to know on fasting and how it relates to our lifestyle
http://www.leangains.com/
Vitamin Enhanced Sociopathic Post Whore
guess you didnt read my replies
while fasting... i have INCREASED my weight, LOWERED my bodyfat, which shows muscle gains. IF... IF its done properly. You will not be "starving" yourself. Read my post/link above.
I know most ppls beliefs are anti fasting because it automatically brings to mind starving... but starving and fasting are 2 completely different things. Just cuz you have an empty stomach doesnt mean your body is starving. You still have aminos, glycogen, sugars, and fats floating through your bloodstream and trickling into your muscle.
"AR's Personal Trainer"
I recognize this. The issues I have seen with this type of dieting always arise when the subject starts eating like normal. Then weight gain is too hard to keep off. 12 hours is not bad. 36 hours 2 days per week is just something I wouldn't recommend.
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Understandable
But in regards to the OP, I doubt he'll eat like normal. Hes been around here for some time. Is obviously into this lifestyle. So he knows the correct basics of a bodybuilding diet. In that aspect... he'll be fine while fasting.
And I never recommended 36 hours. I gave him my experience to learn from as he pleased. Which was 12-16 hour fasts. From all my research, I wouldnt suggest going over 24 hour fasting period.
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I guess the jury is out on this, but i'd be very interested to see how it works for a few other people. Only 2 issues I foresee are:
1) strength/energy/intensity in the gym on the fast days (or do you make them coincide with your off days?)
2) sounds like a constant schedule (worse then our already rigid diets lol), and possibly expensive.
Interesting though, i'll be watching for more on this.
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If I were to recommend someone to do this, I would say do a 15-16 hour fast. Make sure you have a meal pwo also. Try to sleep for 10-12 hours, as you only burn 100% fat when you are truly at rest - hence the "fat burning zone" being low intensity, eat 3-4 hours before bed, then eat as soon as you wake up or after a short cardio session. I wouldn't starve yourself during the day. I also would only advise someone to do this who looked like dukkit only with a little more bodyfat. I don't think someone who gains fat easily should do it as it COULD backfire. 10-15 hours isn't that much, and especially if it is mostly spent sleeping. It's also a much better idea if you are using aas. Just my opinion based on what I have observed personally and what I have read about.
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Dukkitdalaw I've been using leangains for the past few weeks and it's been awesome, I concur with everything you said.
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these responses are great thank you every one for your impute i will be on a high protein low carb diet and my first fast started last night at 10pm
you can follow my diet and progress here ill be logging it to keep me motivated,.....
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...75#post5427475
Vitamin Enhanced Sociopathic Post Whore
awesome. glad to see it works for others
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Big fan of fasting here
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ok at 300pm and im hungry but not starving but hungry and i shit twice( not sure if i needed to add that or not)
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Oh man, are you gonna run 2 simultaneous threads? I think you should ask to have one closed to avoid confusion...
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