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    devdog28 is offline New Member
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    5-11 234 pounds, heres my current diet, its the truth

    I am currently at 234 pounds and would like to get down to 210 in about 4 months.

    Breakfast usually is a bowl of cereal, fruit loops or something, or waffles, or eggs about 4 eggs or 4 waffles with syrup. with a large coffee with milk no sugar
    Lunch is usually a sandwich or grinder, turkey or ham, with american cheese and mayo, mustard and lettuce tomato.
    dinner time is the hardest as I work out around 6 or 7 at night then go home and feast.
    Usually some sort of meat,chicken, pork or steak, with noodles or pasta, with a side of vegetables. I usually eat probably a double portion because I am hungry from the gym. Then I find myself snacking around 9 or 10 on something not very nutritious, chips or something.
    BRUTAL I know. Thats why im posting here. I am currently hitting the gym 4 or 5 nights a week, doing about 15 minutes of warm up/cardio then hitting weights for about half hour, 5-8 reps per excercise, 1 minute rests, about 14-16 sets per workout, mostly free weights. I have been lifting for about 8 years and I have a really good base just alot of fat covering it up and im sick of it!!! Any help would be appreciated I need to do this!!

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    The diet is rubbish IMO

    you need to go and look through some threads and find out what people are reccomending, then come back and re-post a new plan

    Cut out all the crap

    Also 15 mins is too long for a warm up.

    5 will do. Its only to raise ur heart rate and increase ur temperature a bit

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    this may help you

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ng-Included-**

    check out GBrices thread aswell

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    yeah but I guess im wondering If I should be doing more cardio and less weights, or when I should be doing cardio and at what rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devdog28 View Post
    yeah but I guess im wondering If I should be doing more cardio and less weights, or when I should be doing cardio and at what rate?
    diet is first, i wouldn't train until you have that sorted

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    Quote Originally Posted by devdog28 View Post
    yeah but I guess im wondering If I should be doing more cardio and less weights, or when I should be doing cardio and at what rate?
    From what I understand to lose BF : cardio first thing in the morning.
    Plus cardio after workout instead of before workout....that is if you are doing cardio during the same time frame of working out.

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    no expert here but some tips ,what i did to drop 40 lbs in 8 months was. cut out the noodles and pasta, replace white rice for brown. replace white bread for whole wheat 10-11pm snack is protein scoop and water or sugar free jello. eat more protein in general. (fish,turkey,chicken lean beef and pork)

    cut out your waffles and syrup , breakfast only eggs or oatmeal (sugar free) only water and crystal light to drink (mostly water). add a multi vitamin everyday also.

    i bet you anything you will lose 2-3lbs a week right there.

    not all of us are bodybuilders and can eat strict diet at the times you have to. but some small changes imo can make a diference and make you look and feel better.

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    Agreed with the rest, the diet is awful and not worth fixing - needs to be completely redone. As an example, my current diet is below:
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    protein/carbs/fat/total calories

    5am: MEAL 1 - PRE WORKOUT
    1 extra large egg, 4 extra large whites - 27/0/5/160
    1/2 cup oats - 5/26/2.5/140
    1/4 cup blueberries - 0/5/0/20

    TOTAL: 32/31/7.5/320

    WORKOUT followed by 1 hour of cardio

    8am: MEAL 2 - POST WORKOUT
    1 Scoop Myofusion - 25/5/3/160
    1 Premier Protein Shake - 30/5/3/160
    1 cup oats - 10/52/5/280

    TOTAL: 65/60/10/600

    10am: MEAL 3
    6oz broiled tilapia - 35/0/3/165
    3/4 cup brown rice - 3/22/1/110
    3/4 cup black and red beans - 5/18/1/105

    TOTAL: 43/40/4.5/380

    1pm: MEAL 4
    5oz chicken breast - 34/0/2/140
    1/2 cup oats - 5/26/2.5/140
    1/4 cup blueberries - 0/5/0/20
    2 cups baby spinach - 1.5/1.5/0/10

    TOTAL: 40/33/4/310

    4pm: MEAL 5
    4oz 93/7 lean ground beef - 23/0/9/180
    1oz (dry) Barilla Plus Multigrain Pasta - 5/20/1/105

    TOTAL: 30/20/10/285

    7pm: MEAL 6
    2oz Flank Steak - 15/0/6/120
    1 extra large whole egg - 7/0/5/80
    3 extra large egg whites - 15/0/0/60
    2 cups baby spinach - 1.5/1.5/0/10
    2 Fish Oils - 0/2/0/20

    39/1.5/13/290

    10pm: MEAL 7
    1 scoop ON Casein - 24/3/1/120
    1 tbsp natty PB - 4/3/8/105
    2 Fish Oils - 0/0/2/20

    TOTAL: 28/6/11/245


    DAILY TOTAL: 271/195/62/2425

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    Use the info below to educate yourself on proper diet and nutrition. Then post up a new diet that we will help you sort out. Thanks to Damien for putting the info together:

    I love analogies. Let’s use a good one. Think of your perfect body as a house that you must build. You’ve figured out your BMR and TDEE, so you know the exact specs of the property you have to work with. You know how exercise affects weight loss and how much of a caloric deficit/surplus we must create to lose/gain said weight; so you know how to build - you understand architecture. You also know the pace you intend on losing/gaining weight at based on these other factors, so you know it will be harder to get your house built in weeks as opposed to months. The only thing left is the tools/building material you must use and because you don’t know how to eat, you still can’t build anything. At least, not well. Sure, you can starve yourself for a few months but you’ll just gain all the weight back in a couple weeks of binge drinking and shitty eating on a vacation – you’re house will fall down!

    So, let’s talk tools baby. Let’s talk food. First off, there are only 3 types of foods/macronutrients. Protein. Carbohydrates. Fat. That’s it.

    Protein – 4 calories per gram - Building material. Bricks. You can’t gain energy from protein, you can only use it to build muscle/skin/hair/nails. It’s basically just amino acids and it’s what our bodies are made of. As such, we need lots of it. 1g of protein per body lb is a good number to shoot for . Go as high as 2g per body lb if you’re lifting weights and trying to build muscle. For example, I am 207 lbs and I eat between 300-400 grams per day. Our body can only break down so much at one time however, so we want to eat 20-40 grams of protein in every meal, several times per day. Protein, being building material only and not energy/labor – the body can rarely find a reason for it to be stored as fat. If you must over-eat – make it lean meat/fish.

    Carbs – 4 calories per gram - Think of these as human labor for your house. Think of sugar as dudes you pick up out front of home depot and oatmeal as a skilled carpenter. Both are carbs, both serve very different purposes. Carbs help transport essential nutrients to the muscles, create glycogen stores, and as such, increase protein synthesis but do not build muscle; they are simply an energy source. As such, they should only be eaten/used when we need energy. Any carbs we ingest before bed or before watching a movie, or something sedentary are not used as energy, and as such, are more likely to be stored in the body as glycogen (glucose/water in our muscles that we will use when doing high-intensity exercise). Once our glycogen reserves are full, they will spill over and be stored as fat. Yes, they will make you fat. Carbs can be your best friend or your worst enemy.

    Fats – 9 calories per gram - Like carbs, fats are an energy source, not a building material like protein. They provide nowhere near as much energy as carbs however. Ask anyone who's on a ketogenic diet. With regard to our house, think of fats as the glue/cement. They provide much needed essential fatty acids, which are great for joint/organ health and increase our protein synthesis. Going back to our analogy, cement/glue increases the effectiveness of bricks! If we give our bodies the right fats, it will be able to burn stored body fat quickly as it won’t see any use in keeping it. Remember, like carbs – not all fat is good and ALL fat is high in calories so watch out. A tablespoon of peanut butter can be a good addition to a meal. Snacking on 5-6 tablespoons, however, means you’ve just eaten over your TDEE for the day.

    Acceptable proteins for your healthy lifestyle diet:

    The goal is to eat lean protein. Meats/other sources low in fat/carbs.

    § Ground beef (93% lean or better)
    § Lean steak (Flank, flat iron, or top sirloin)
    § Bison sirloin (the highest quality red meat)
    § Chicken breast
    § Turkey breast
    § Tuna (canned or sushi grade)
    § Salmon
    § Tilapia (mostly all white fish)
    § All shellfish
    § Venison
    § Whey protein (post-workout recovery purposes only)
    § Casein/Cottage cheese (before bed only)

    Black-List Protein sources. Do not eat these because they are high in fat. And not the
    good kind we find in nuts and olive oil – I’m talking about cholesterol raising saturated
    fat!

    § Bacon
    § Sausage
    § Expensive fat-marbled Steaks (Ribeye, Strip, Filet)
    § Pork and beef ribs
    § Pork/Lamb chops
    § Restaurant ground beef (80/20 fat – most burgers)
    § Duck
    § Chicken legs/thighs
    § Chicken skin
    § Cheese

    Acceptable Carbs for your healthy lifestlyle:

    Complex carbs are now your creed. These are slower-digesting, natural, low on the glycemic index carbohydrates that digest slowly and provide us with sustained energy. They do not drastically affect our blood sugar and do not cause insulin spikes. Thus our body sees no reason to store them as fat, it would rather burn them for energy. Simple carbs such as enriched white breads/pastas/rice/potatoes/sugars (including most fruit) cause insulin spikes and are high GI foods. They should not be eaten when on a strict diet. Fruit can be consumed early in the day or pre/post-workout because of it’s high nutritional value but should usually be avoided due to being a form of simple sugar. Remember, healthy, low-calorie foods aren’t always the correct foods and such is the case with fruit.

    § Oats/Oatmeal
    § Grits/Cornmeal
    § Unsalted/non-buttered popcorn (great, low-cal snack)
    § Sweet potato (the best choice)
    § Butternut squash
    § Whole wheat pasta (not enriched)
    § Organic whole wheat bread (not enriched wonder bread crap)
    § Brown rice
    § Ezekiel bread
    § Swedish grain bread
    § Gluten free bread
    § Wheat couscous
    § Corn
    § Quinoa
    § Lentils
    § Beans
    § Many more, look up the GI (glycemic index) for healthy choices

    Black List:

    § White pasta
    § White bread
    § Baguette
    § Bagels
    § Cookies, cake, muffins, cupcakes, all sweets basically.
    § White couscous
    § White rice
    § You get the idea…

    Don’t get discouraged upon reading this list. I still make desserts all the time with whole
    grain flour and splenda. I buy bagels and baguettes at the health food store that use
    complex carbs as a base. If you’re dedicated, you don’t have to miss out 100%

    Acceptable fats for your healthy lifestyle:

    We look for fat sources that are high in omega-3, 6, and 9 fatty acids. Also, many are high in protein. We do not want saturated fats such as butter, cream, meat fat. We don’t want test tube fats like trans (the worst). We want mono/polyunsaturated fats that our body can use for something other than calories. Remember, even good fats are high in calories.

    § Natural peanut butter (no sugar added, just roasted peanuts)
    § Natural almond butter
    § Cashews
    § Almonds
    § Peanuts
    § Flax seeds
    § Flax seed oil
    § Salmon and Trout (great fatty proteins)
    § Fish oil
    § Extra virgin olive oil (should be used on all veggies/salads)
    § Chia seeds
    § Grapeseed oil
    § Macadamia nut oil

    Acceptable miscellaneous foods:

    These foods don’t provide much as far as macronutrients but are great for adding vitamins/minerals and taste. Notice some of these other foods are dairy. Dairy is another animal’s milk. We lack the enzymes to digest it as they do and it’s high in fat/sugar. It should only be eaten early in the day for nutrient purposes with the exception of whey and casein (cottage cheese).

    § Skim milk (Hood brand is only 45 calories and 3g of sugar per cup)
    § Greek yogurt (no sugar added)
    § Berries (all berries are much lower in sugar than other fruits and packed with fiber/nutrients – eat berries)
    § Green Vegetables. These are technically carbs but they are packed with fiber (a type of carb that isn’t used as energy or stored). In bodybuilding/nutrition – we refer to most vegetables as fibrous carbohydrates. While a serving of Broccoli may have 6g of carbs, 5 are from fiber. Meaning that it contains only 1g of storable carbohydrates. In addition, green vegetables are a calorie neutral/negative food (our body uses more calories to digest them than they contain – think celery). Veggies should be eaten with every meal. Every day. If you do this, you can become almost impervious to getting sick. Some vegetables are better than others for healthy diets.
    § Many non-green vegetables. Most are fine – just check labels, some have a good bit of sugar and should be eaten in moderation only (carrots)

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    Brice stole the words right out of my mouth, if that diet was a car it would be considered "totaled". No fixing it, you just get a new one. Everything you need to know to start a better one is in the previous post.

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    I'm am now finally close to the diets that most people post here but I did not change it over night as everyone here will suggest. If you can you SHOULD! if not then I suggest you make 2 changes, stick to them for 2 weeks, keep them, make 2 more and so on. That being said your first change I would suggest making as many as possible that you know you can keep to. Maybe Oatmeal with stevia/cin every morning (thats your worst meal), no crap snack food 6 days a week (1 free day) , casin protein before bed every night and keep the rest the same for now. This is by NO means a good diet, but its a start.

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