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    ok one week down and just got back from the gym chest and tri's folllowed by 40mins of cardio on the treadmill. i jump on the scale when i get home and im down 5lbs weighing in at 189.8
    starting weight 194.8 but honestly its not about what the scale says its about how i feel and look. my body feels tighter and i can deffinately see a difference in the mirror. looking foward to hitting week 2 hard and dropping this bf. on a better note the hungry feeling is starting to lessen as my body becomes used to its new caloric intake.
    i do need suggestions for my sunday workout as its the only workout where i do everything fasted in the am. i usually get up and have a cup of coffee wiat about a half an hour and go to the gym but i find it difficult to get the most of my weight taining session because of the empty stomach. i was thinking of either 25g of dextose before i head out or should i go for a shake with maybe a half cup of oats to fuel my workout which usually lasts about an hour and half then do my cadio. my only concern is if i do the oats and shake my cardio session wont be truely fasted. im i being too strict with this?

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    Bump for answer on question above

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    Week 2 coming to a close on Sunday and I will be weighing in to see how I'm doing. My whole schedule is being flipped around because of a job location change. My commute has changed and it takes me longer to get to and from work so my tue/Thur evening workouts are no more. I do however have the ability to leave work for an hour or so during the day and hit the gym down the road from work so we will see how that goes. I'm still holding strong on my diet and am eager to hit the scale tomorrow and see how I did. Stay tuned

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    My weekly workouts have the same issue as you on Sunday.... I have to do my workout and cardio in one shot... so do I do am fasted cardio but then my workout (and possibly LBM) suffers, or do I eat, have a great workout but then cardio isn't truly fasted?

    There is no right answer. You need to decide what the lesser of 2 evils is. For me, it was doing the cardio un-fasted. I'd rather have an intense workout and not risk burning LBM. More muscle = more efficient fat burning at rest, so look at it that way. If you have a really intense workout, you could very well use all of that fuel anyway and wind up doing your cardio 'quasi' fasted.

    Good luck brotha! You're doing great, when are we gonna see some pics?

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    pics end of week 2 and every 2 weeks

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    /UOTE=MBMETC;5515161]ok one week down and just got back from the gym chest and tri's folllowed by 40mins of cardio on the treadmill. i jump on the scale when i get home and im down 5lbs weighing in at 189.8
    starting weight 194.8 but honestly its not about what the scale says its about how i feel and look. my body feels tighter and i can deffinately see a difference in the mirror. looking foward to hitting week 2 hard and dropping this bf. on a better note the hungry feeling is starting to lessen as my body becomes used to its new caloric intake.
    i do need suggestions for my sunday workout as its the only workout where i do everything fasted in the am. i usually get up and have a cup of coffee wiat about a half an hour and go to the gym but i find it difficult to get the most of my weight taining session because of the empty stomach. i was thinking of either 25g of dextose before i head out or should i go for a shake with maybe a half cup of oats to fuel my workout which usually lasts about an hour and half then do my cadio. my only concern is if i do the oats and shake my cardio session wont be truely fasted. im i being too strict with this?[/QUOTE]

    on the dextrose and pre-workout thing, i used 2 buy dextrose or maltodextrin (whichever was in stock) for PWO but my trainer told me not to. yes u need to replace glycogen, but fast sugars arent the best way. benefits of insulin spike are outweighed by the downsides (ie. reduce in HGH and test levels). i make my own pre-workout shake instead of buying a marketed one. use beta-alanine, AAKG, caffeine and creatine in OJ. has enuf sugar in it for me. stick some oats in PWO.

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    Sunday morning is here and only a 2 lbs lost this week. My diet has been strong except for last night I ate a f-ing slice of pizza and 5 chocolate chip cookies, I don't know why did but I did. Gonna have a cup of coffee and head out to the gym to put this behind me. The 2 lbs is ok I guess so long as it's only fat I'm loosing. Ending weight week 2 187.8 lbs

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    Good luck mate try escape junk food temptation

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    I usually do I can be strict as all he'll when I'm on I don't know why I let myself slip.

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    2.5 weeks in on my cut and I can honestly say I'm seeing changes and I like what I see. Since I found this site in September I have made noticeable changes in my body in terms of lbm and fat loss. Unfortunatly it took me till I was 40 to learn how to eat and make these changes possible. So thank you to everyone who has helped me in my learning process.

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    ^^^ Great news man! Congrats, keep going! And hey, better late then never...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    ^^^ Great news man! Congrats, keep going! And hey, better late then never...
    thanks for the support man.

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    week 3 update 2 days late. still hitting it hard and loving it diet is strong and food is now veiwed as something to build my body and not how it tasts or smells it has become just another tool in reaching my goal. i am down 10lbs an almost 3 points in bf reduction. my strength hasn't suffered much and don't see loss in muscle so im happy with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    week 3 update 2 days late. still hitting it hard and loving it diet is strong and food is now veiwed as something to build my body and not how it tasts or smells it has become just another tool in reaching my goal. i am down 10lbs an almost 3 points in bf reduction. my strength hasn't suffered much and don't see loss in muscle so im happy with that.
    gratz man! whts ur bf now? any chane of pics 4 upd8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    week 3 update 2 days late. still hitting it hard and loving it diet is strong and food is now veiwed as something to build my body and not how it tasts or smells it has become just another tool in reaching my goal. i am down 10lbs an almost 3 points in bf reduction. my strength hasn't suffered much and don't see loss in muscle so im happy with that.
    Congrats man, really! ^ ^ ^ when you've reached the point where you are in the bold, you are seriously in the zone. I have been there myself, just need to get back. Maybe i'll be able to pull some inspiration from you! =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gucks View Post
    gratz man! whts ur bf now? any chane of pics 4 upd8?
    i messed up in my initial post my true starting stats were 195 17.7 bf
    i am now 185 15.3 as of this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Congrats man, really! ^ ^ ^ when you've reached the point where you are in the bold, you are seriously in the zone. I have been there myself, just need to get back. Maybe i'll be able to pull some inspiration from you! =)
    thats what i feel, my wife tells me there is no way i'll fail im too determained and after the news on my bf drop it's reassurance that this is what i really want and nothiong will derail me.
    as for me motivating you i hope i do i would consider it a little pay back for the motivation you have given me.
    good luck my friend.

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    Ok I don't know what's going on but this last week has sucked i have slipped 2 times and ate on 1 day a chicken pram hero and today I ate 9 Stelladoro fudge cookies and now I sit here and want to eat anything I can get my hands on. I didn't change anything in my diet and I don't know where this craving for dirty food is coming from. As I sit next to my 8 year old son watching him eat a Boston cream donut I'm salivating and contemplating ripping it out of his hands..lol.
    Either way I know I need to nip this in the bud and get my focus back. Maybe writing this will set me straight so thanks for this forum and to the people here that are so willing to help.

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    Impulse control man. Just don't allow it to happen.

    You're doing great and you've afforded a minor setback but it's time to get back to your A-game.

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    FIGHT THE URGE. I know it's tough but you gotta do it if you wanna reach your goals. I wouldn't consider it slipping up but rather a cheat for the week. 1 cheat a week wont kill you as long as its 1 meal and not the whole day. Gotta keep your sanity somehow. Keep it up and dont lose the drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienm05 View Post
    Impulse control man. Just don't allow it to happen.

    You're doing great and you've afforded a minor setback but it's time to get back to your A-game.
    thanks for the encouraging words damienm wasn't sure if you had my back on this log im glad to see you chime in and offer your insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nav13 View Post
    FIGHT THE URGE. I know it's tough but you gotta do it if you wanna reach your goals. I wouldn't consider it slipping up but rather a cheat for the week. 1 cheat a week wont kill you as long as its 1 meal and not the whole day. Gotta keep your sanity somehow. Keep it up and dont lose the drive.
    thats what bothers me, the fact that i allowed myself to cheat i'm usually so rigid and focused that i would be able to resist but i let my gaurd down and rationalized this food into my day.
    thanks for the support nav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    thats what bothers me, the fact that i allowed myself to cheat i'm usually so rigid and focused that i would be able to resist but i let my gaurd down and rationalized this food into my day.
    thanks for the support nav.
    Dude, you're not perfect. It happens to the best of us and it will happen to you again. What you need to do is make these incidents isolated - i.e. don't let it spiral out of control with that old mindset *well, I already fvcked up, I might as well eat bad the rest of today/this week and start fresh tomorrow/monday*. Also, they need to be few and far between... the exception, not the norm.

    Allowing yourself a nice cheat meal once a week might help a bit. The problem with the sweets is this: just like the urge goes away after you do without them for a while, it comes back instantly after having them again. Ever heard of sugar addiction? This is why.

    Don't sweat it bro, pick yourself back up and you'll be fine. Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Dude, you're not perfect. It happens to the best of us and it will happen to you again. What you need to do is make these incidents isolated - i.e. don't let it spiral out of control with that old mindset *well, I already fvcked up, I might as well eat bad the rest of today/this week and start fresh tomorrow/monday*. Also, they need to be few and far between... the exception, not the norm.

    Allowing yourself a nice cheat meal once a week might help a bit. The problem with the sweets is this: just like the urge goes away after you do without them for a while, it comes back instantly after having them again. Ever heard of sugar addiction? This is why.

    Don't sweat it bro, pick yourself back up and you'll be fine. Move on.
    your right gb.
    im back, today is a new day and i am looking foward to eaing my foods and not letting this screw with my head.
    i just stepped up the cardio to help negate the bad choices.
    Last edited by MBMETC; 02-25-2011 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    your right gb.
    im back, today is a new day and i am looking foward to eaing my foods and not letting this screw with my head.
    i just stepped up the cardio to help negate the bad choices.
    That's the attitude!

    btw, if it makes you feel any better I just ate a sub of chicken breast, cheddar, bacon, lettuce, tomato and pesto mayo right after I replied... FML!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    That's the attitude!

    btw, if it makes you feel any better I just ate a sub of chicken breast, cheddar, bacon, lettuce, tomato and pesto mayo right after I replied... FML!
    it actually makes me feel hungry...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    it actually makes me feel hungry...thanks
    Lmao sorry bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    the fact that i allowed myself to cheat i'm usually so rigid and focused that i would be able to resist but i let my gaurd down and rationalized this food into my day.
    That's what gets me too now and then. I'm impressed that you've targeted the problem and articulated it so well, for my sake as well as yours. For example, after leg day and an intense hockey game, I'll rationalize eating a lot of extra calories. Of course, the next day, I feel awful about it. It's all about just not letting those thoughts of, "I suppose I can afford it" creep in. If we could afford it, it would be part of our written diet plan.

    And yes, of course I have your back. Just been erratic with my time on the board lately but I'm following this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienm05 View Post
    That's what gets me too now and then. I'm impressed that you've targeted the problem and articulated it so well, for my sake as well as yours. For example, after leg day and an intense hockey game, I'll rationalize eating a lot of extra calories. Of course, the next day, I feel awful about it. It's all about just not letting those thoughts of, "I suppose I can afford it" creep in. If we could afford it, it would be part of our written diet plan.

    And yes, of course I have your back. Just been erratic with my time on the board lately but I'm following this one!
    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by damienm05 View Post
    it's all about just not letting those thoughts of, "i suppose i can afford it" creep in
    amen

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    End of week 4 and weight is 186lbs, did my first spin class today and I think it will be my last..lol are you kidding me I thought I was in shape. Really it wasn't that bad just could barley walk down the stairs after class. I am happy to repost that after my slip I finished out the week strong and back on my game.I will be checking bf midweek and will update results.

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    feeling good and bad today, on the good side of things my wife commented to me this morning "you look skinny today" which shows my had work is paying off.
    on the bad news side my wife said "you look skinny today". although dropping bf is my goal it is not my intention to get "skinny". i hope im doing this cut right and my muscle base will rebound when i go to my bulk phase. i am feeling exceptionaly thin today and i really dont see muscle wasting so i'll assume im on the right path, ill have to post pics for review.

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    Subscribed. Keep it up man.

    As far as the cheating goes, I have found it helpful to have 1 cheat meal every week - but if you cheat at all during the week you don't allow yourself your weekend cheat meal. That way you look forward all week to the cheat meal and it provides great motivation to not stray from your diet during the week. How could a couple cookies or a doughnut be worth sacrificing an amazing cheat meal that you have been planning and looking forward to all week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    End of week 4 and weight is 186lbs, did my first spin class today and I think it will be my last..lol are you kidding me I thought I was in shape. Really it wasn't that bad just could barley walk down the stairs after class. I am happy to repost that after my slip I finished out the week strong and back on my game.I will be checking bf midweek and will update results.
    lol, it can be tough, but when you have a spin class like mine (filled with hot ass chicks) it makes it alot easier!

    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    feeling good and bad today, on the good side of things my wife commented to me this morning "you look skinny today" which shows my had work is paying off.
    on the bad news side my wife said "you look skinny today". although dropping bf is my goal it is not my intention to get "skinny". i hope im doing this cut right and my muscle base will rebound when i go to my bulk phase. i am feeling exceptionaly thin today and i really dont see muscle wasting so i'll assume im on the right path, ill have to post pics for review.
    I know EXACTLY how you feel. Every time I see people I haven't seen in a while, they say "you look like you've lost more weight'!! They THINK they're complimenting me because I used to be fat, but actually it hurts me because I am by no means trying to look any thinner.

    We both have to keep in mind that to the untrained eye, and with us in clothes it's going to look to people like we're skinny. Take that shirt off during the summer and see if people are still saying the same thing. I bet they aren't! It's the same idea as with big fat guys who lift - to the untrained eye, a person would say 'that guy's big!' where we would know he's just a fat bulky fvck who could never take his shirt off at the beach. Know what I mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    Subscribed. Keep it up man.

    As far as the cheating goes, I have found it helpful to have 1 cheat meal every week - but if you cheat at all during the week you don't allow yourself your weekend cheat meal. That way you look forward all week to the cheat meal and it provides great motivation to not stray from your diet during the week. How could a couple cookies or a doughnut be worth sacrificing an amazing cheat meal that you have been planning and looking forward to all week?
    Good points
    thanks for the support

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    lol, it can be tough, but when you have a spin class like mine (filled with hot ass chicks) it makes it alot easier!

    i think there was like 2 cute chicks thats bout it

    I know EXACTLY how you feel. Every time I see people I haven't seen in a while, they say "you look like you've lost more weight'!! They THINK they're complimenting me because I used to be fat, but actually it hurts me because I am by no means trying to look any thinner.

    We both have to keep in mind that to the untrained eye, and with us in clothes it's going to look to people like we're skinny. Take that shirt off during the summer and see if people are still saying the same thing. I bet they aren't! It's the same idea as with big fat guys who lift - to the untrained eye, a person would say 'that guy's big!' where we would know he's just a fat bulky fvck who could never take his shirt off at the beach. Know what I mean?
    well see

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    WTF did i hit a wall, i need some help here guy's end of week 5 and no change in weight or bf% still 185lbs and 15%.
    diet is strong and cardio and weight training is solid. i guess it's possible that i got a little loose keeping track of my food and some cals could have creeped in, however if this is possible they would have been clean cals. do you think it could be my before bed casien and pb shake, it's like i can't end my day without it. im only useing a half a serving of pb though....help guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    WTF did i hit a wall, i need some help here guy's end of week 5 and no change in weight or bf% still 185lbs and 15%.
    diet is strong and cardio and weight training is solid. i guess it's possible that i got a little loose keeping track of my food and some cals could have creeped in, however if this is possible they would have been clean cals. do you think it could be my before bed casien and pb shake, it's like i can't end my day without it. im only useing a half a serving of pb though....help guys!
    Only you know how significant this was. Also, how long has it been since you last saw changes? 1 week?

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    [QUOTE=gbrice75;5556447]Only you know how significant this was. Also, how long has it been since you last saw changes? 1 week?[/

    ya it's been a consistant loss

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    [QUOTE=MBMETC;5556455]
    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Only you know how significant this was. Also, how long has it been since you last saw changes? 1 week?[/

    ya it's been a consistant loss
    You might get differing opinions from other members, but i'd wait another week before making any significant changes. I have gone a week without any changes where I was perfect with my diet, training and cardio.

    If possible, you can always up the cardio.

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