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01-31-2011, 11:40 PM #1Member
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Checking my diet needing advice (College football receiver)
I'm 6'1 180 pounds.--I play division 2 football and I'm in spring football work outs right now. My body fat is rather low, my abs show very well when I flex. I just want to know what to fix or change to gain muscle noticably, but stay a GOOD receiver size and keep my speed but look great like a legit receiver and also that beach body.
I have chocolate Syntha 6 protein-- And "muscle tech anabolic vitakic".
M-F (MTR 7 A.m WF 5 a.m
I wake up, drink 2 scoops of Syntha 6 (which is 22g's of protein a scoop so 44 total, 200 calories a scoop, 400 total) mixed with 8oz of water as soon as I wake up on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Wednesday and Fridays we have 5:30 AM workouts which are only running, so I drink it after then. MTTR I then go to the cafeteria, and eat a little bowl of yogurt with oats, some plain scrambled eggs and water (then take the 5 muscle tech anabolic vitakic) that is all from 7-7:30 am. I usually don't have time to eat after the Wednesday and Friday workouts in the morning, only the protein shake.
About 10AM or so I TRY to eat maybe a package of that tuna or a banana if I don't have that, but some or most of the time I don't eat here just sometimes. Usually just eat nothing
12:00 or 12:30 Lunch... I eat A turkey sandwich (about 5 slices of turkey) 100 % wheat bread, with a tomato slice, lettuce, pickles, mustard. A serving of corn and carrots or some time of veggie. I also try to find a different lean meet in the caff which is rare, sometimes pork tenderloin, I get a few slices of that, if not I just get more turkey slices by themselves for seconds. Also get a salad, with regular lettuce, spinach leeves, tomatos, brocoli, calaflower, carrots, bell peppers, and a couple scoops of honey mustard. ( sometimes a scoop or two of cottage cheese, rarely though because they never have it)
2:30 my workout group goes Monday through Thursday leaving Friday morning for only running with Saturday and Sunday off ... and we work out very hard, running and weights. Agility and footwork every day first thing, then go inside and do weights. I follow the workout directly with 2 scoops of syntha 6 protein mixed with 8 oz of water. Then SOMETIMES a banana also <-- is the banana neccesary? I usually don't have them, only sometimes
about 6:00--Dinner I then eat about 10 slices of turkey breast or more ( i try to cut the bread out at dinner time because I feel like the bread from the sandwich earlier was enough) Vegetable side. A fruit side, and the salad I posted above. Also another lean meet IF they have it. Sometimes I feel as if I over eat during the lunch and dinner periods or maybe not enough.
About 8:00, I try to eat another things of tuna, or a banana or something I can find because Im usually hungry, but I typically eat nothing, rare occasions I do.
Anywhere from 10-11ish ...Then, in my dorm room, I do more abs and pushups before I go to bed, typically...always followed by only 1 scoop of syntha 6 with 4 oz of water, and a banana. whether I did pushups and abs or not. In this instance also, I may not have a banana there.
NOTE-- the caff food always changes, but they ALWAYS have turkey slices, bread and salad and veggies and fruit regardless of what else) They MAY have a different meet sometimes like a flavored chicken, tofu chicken with veggies, wraps (which are wheats wraps and you can get chicken and veggies made in it with a sauce) <--- but those are once in awhile. I also always dont have tuna or bananas in stock. I am trying to see if that is a good diet, to gain muscle and to stay cut up with a nice receiver body that is cut up to where its very presentable with shirt off and on the beach type! haha.
Tell me what I should change, buy for food, replace or ANYTHING, even if I'm drinking too much of my protein shake stuff 3x a day, or not enough. Total, I have 5 scoops during the day, 2 in morning, 2 after workout, 1 before bed. !!
Thanks! I tried to say exactly what I do during the day with what I have.
I also drink about 5 bottles of water a day (16.9 oz each bottle)
Remember, weights are Monday-Thursday with speed and agility before all. ALSO alot of running on Wednesday and Friday morning. Friday-Sunday off from weights, but I still do abs and pushups in my dorm Sunday night typically. Friday and Saturday night I usually do go out and consume some alcohol mixed drinks... typically lemonade mixed.Last edited by Athlete127; 02-01-2011 at 11:15 PM.
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02-01-2011, 12:59 AM #2
Ok i can tell you just from the start by looking at this post no one is going to respond because there is no organization to how you've listed your diet. Try giving us something like this
Meal one 6am
Item (cals/carbs/protien/fat)
item (cals/carbs/protien/fat)
item (cals/carbs/protien/fat)
Totals (cals/carbs/protien/fat)
Then list the rest of the times you eat in that format
Also list your stats
height
weight
bodyfat%
While you're at it do a quick search on these terms so you can figure them up
BMR (base metabolic rate) = the calories you'd burn sitting on your ass all day
TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) = the average calories you burn based on your BMR times a multiplier of how active you are
Both formulas can be found with a quick google search.
Trust me on this one do the math and count the numbers. I know it sucks but once you get it done its well worth it.
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02-01-2011, 01:47 AM #3
Yeh man
Ur post is like a massive wall of words
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02-01-2011, 08:11 AM #4Member
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I would do a nice little pretty post, but I am doing it from my phone...
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02-01-2011, 04:49 PM #5Member
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Can I really not get any help because I can't change the format of my post? My BF percent is low, I know that... Obviously because I am a receiver, and when I flex I have a 6 pack.
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02-01-2011, 05:17 PM #6
Dude, just go in and edit the post to something readable that I can edit line by line and point out flaws, changes, whatever. Nobody is getting paid to jerk you off.
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02-01-2011, 06:01 PM #7
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02-01-2011, 11:14 PM #8Member
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Fixed
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02-02-2011, 06:05 PM #9Member
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02-02-2011, 06:13 PM #10
not sure what you are looking for?? your diet is fine, just eat more if you wish to gain weight.. Try to eat 500 more calories a day.. any more and your body might start adding fat.. try a casein shake prior to going to bed instead of whey.. add 75g more protein and 50g more carbs... so basically one 250g steak/chicken breast and half cup of oats every day..
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02-02-2011, 06:17 PM #11
see bold
Gbrice's Current Diet:
protein/carbs/fat/total calories
5am: MEAL 1 - PRE WORKOUT
1 extra large egg, 4 extra large whites - 27/0/5/160
1/2 cup oats - 5/26/2.5/140
1/4 cup blueberries - 0/5/0/20
TOTAL: 32/31/7.5/320
WORKOUT followed by 1 hour of cardio
8am: MEAL 2 - POST WORKOUT
1 Scoop Myofusion - 25/5/3/160
1 Premier Protein Shake - 30/5/3/160
1 cup oats - 10/52/5/280
TOTAL: 65/60/10/600
10am: MEAL 3
6oz broiled tilapia - 35/0/3/165
3/4 cup brown rice - 3/22/1/110
3/4 cup black and red beans - 5/18/1/105
TOTAL: 43/40/4.5/380
1pm: MEAL 4
5oz chicken breast - 34/0/2/140
1/2 cup oats - 5/26/2.5/140
1/4 cup blueberries - 0/5/0/20
2 cups baby spinach - 1.5/1.5/0/10
TOTAL: 40/33/4/310
4pm: MEAL 5
4oz 93/7 lean ground beef - 23/0/9/180
1oz (dry) Barilla Plus Multigrain Pasta - 5/20/1/105
TOTAL: 30/20/10/285
7pm: MEAL 6
2oz Flank Steak - 15/0/6/120
1 extra large whole egg - 7/0/5/80
3 extra large egg whites - 15/0/0/60
2 cups baby spinach - 1.5/1.5/0/10
2 Fish Oils - 0/2/0/20
39/1.5/13/290
10pm: MEAL 7
1 scoop ON Casein - 24/3/1/120
1 tbsp natty PB - 4/3/8/105
2 Fish Oils - 0/0/2/20
TOTAL: 28/6/11/245
DAILY TOTAL: 271/195/62/2425
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02-02-2011, 06:18 PM #12
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02-02-2011, 06:36 PM #13
true this. but he stated he is not gaining or dropping weight so i am assuming he is at his TDEE right now with what ever he is eating wheather he knows that number or not.. I know it is tough making a diet with cafeteria food and no money.. but if he eats three or four meals a day and is maintaining he needs to be squeezing in one more meal close to the size mentioned... just a guideline.. not an equation.
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02-02-2011, 06:38 PM #14
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I'm 6'1 180 pounds.--I play division 2 football and I'm in spring football work outs right now. My body fat is rather low, my abs show very well when I flex. I just want to know what to fix or change to gain muscle noticably, but stay a GOOD receiver size and keep my speed but look great like a legit receiver and also that beach body.
I have chocolate Syntha 6 protein-- And "muscle tech anabolic vitakic".
Syntha 6 sucks. Poor choice for a protein powder IMO - too much fat, and as a receiver, being lean is very important. I'd get rid of this crap asap and replace with something better. Try Myofusion - half the fat and carbs, still tastes good and is a multiple-source protein.
Can I finish out my last half of my 2.91 jug before switching? Is there anything I could find at maybe walmart that would work? Remember I am a college student. BROKE! haha
M-F (MTR 7 A.m)WF 5 a.m
I wake up, drink 2 scoops of Syntha 6 (which is 22g's of protein a scoop so 44 total, 200 calories a scoop, 400 total) mixed with 8oz of water as soon as I wake up on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Wednesday and Fridays we have 5:30 AM workouts which are only running, so I drink it after then. MTTR I then go to the cafeteria, and eat a little bowl of yogurt with oats, some plain scrambled eggs and water (then take the 5 muscle tech anabolic vitakic) that is all from 7-7:30 am. I usually don't have time to eat after the Wednesday and Friday workouts in the morning, only the protein shake.
When you say running, I don't imagine it's casual low intensity cardio jogging? How intense is it, and what's the duration? If it's anything more then low intensity cardio, you need to fuel that workout - i'd start with 1/2 cup oats, possibly a full cup. Add a handful of berries. Can you do eggs/whites before this workout? If not, stick with the powder but i'd rather see 1 scoop and some real food (eggs) to make up the difference.
It's intense foot work stuff, and sprints. So basically everyday, including the running and not running days, drink a scoop of protein and not two scoops? then what else? It would have to be dorm food, because I can't make it to the caff before the running days. Bowl of oatmeal and what kind of berries? Along with just ONE scoop, right when waking up?
About 10AM or so I TRY to eat maybe a package of that tuna or a banana if I don't have that, but some or most of the time I don't eat here just sometimes. Usually just eat nothing
Another mistake. Want to maintain or add LBM? You can't TRY to eat - you HAVE to eat. You will not grow, I promise you. Lean protein and complex carb here
You talking a package or can of tuna plus maybe 2 slices of whole wheat bread?
12:00 or 12:30 Lunch... I eat A turkey sandwich (about 5 slices of turkey) 100 % wheat bread, with a tomato slice, lettuce, pickles, mustard. A serving of corn and carrots or some time of veggie. I also try to find a different lean meet in the caff which is rare, sometimes pork tenderloin, I get a few slices of that, if not I just get more turkey slices by themselves for seconds. Also get a salad, with regular lettuce, spinach leeves, tomatos, brocoli, calaflower, carrots, bell peppers, and a couple scoops of honey mustard. ( sometimes a scoop or two of cottage cheese, rarely though because they never have it)
All i can say is try to find the leanest cleanest protein source you can. Grilled chicken breast, etc. I assume the turkey sandwich is cold cut/lunch meat?
Yes it is, that is the leanest meat they sometimes have. All the other stuff I am eating is ok on that?
2:30 my workout group goes Monday through Thursday leaving Friday morning for only running with Saturday and Sunday off ... and we work out very hard, running and weights. Agility and footwork every day first thing, then go inside and do weights. I follow the workout directly with 2 scoops of syntha 6 protein mixed with 8 oz of water. Then SOMETIMES a banana also <-- is the banana neccesary? I usually don't have them, only sometimes
I'd do oats instead of the banana. Again, my concern here is the lack of food pre-workout. No fuel for this workout which you said yourself is very tough, with weights, etc. You NEED carbs for this kind of activity!
So two scoops of protein and oats after?
about 6:00--Dinner I then eat about 10 slices of turkey breast or more ( i try to cut the bread out at dinner time because I feel like the bread from the sandwich earlier was enough) Vegetable side. A fruit side, and the salad I posted above. Also another lean meet IF they have it. Sometimes I feel as if I over eat during the lunch and dinner periods or maybe not enough.
I have no idea what 10 slices amounts to. I realize you're in school, but if you're going to be serious, you need to find a way to get a better idea of HOW MUCH you're eating. Right now is just a guessing game
I have no other options, it is my meal plan. Is alot of cold cut turkey breast, veggie, fruit, salad good here? need to add some bread?
About 8:00, I try to eat another things of tuna, or a banana or something I can find because Im usually hungry, but I typically eat nothing, rare occasions I do.
Another mistake, same as above
So here also a bag or can of tuna with a carb like a piece or two of whole wheat bread?
Anywhere from 10-11ish ...Then, in my dorm room, I do more abs and pushups before I go to bed, typically...always followed by only 1 scoop of syntha 6 with 4 oz of water, and a banana. whether I did pushups and abs or not. In this instance also, I may not have a banana there.
Drop the banana either way. This would be a good place for a tbsp of natty PB
So the one scoop of protein is good here? Plus add a tablespoon of natural peanut butter?
NOTE-- the caff food always changes, but they ALWAYS have turkey slices, bread and salad and veggies and fruit regardless of what else) They MAY have a different meet sometimes like a flavored chicken, tofu chicken with veggies, wraps (which are wheats wraps and you can get chicken and veggies made in it with a sauce) <--- but those are once in awhile. I also always dont have tuna or bananas in stock. I am trying to see if that is a good diet, to gain muscle and to stay cut up with a nice receiver body that is cut up to where its very presentable with shirt off and on the beach type! haha.
Search the diet forum - there are other threads specifically about cafeteria food in school - you will find alot of useful info in those
Tell me what I should change, buy for food, replace or ANYTHING, even if I'm drinking too much of my protein shake stuff 3x a day, or not enough. Total, I have 5 scoops during the day, 2 in morning, 2 after workout, 1 before bed. !!
You need to change alot IMO. The diet is all over the place, not thought out or balanced at all. I am posting my diet below as an example of a good balanced and clean diet. Note how I posted it; this is how your next post should look if you want people to help you out with it
Thanks! I tried to say exactly what I do during the day with what I have.
I also drink about 5 bottles of water a day (16.9 oz each bottle)
Good, drink more
Remember, weights are Monday-Thursday with speed and agility before all. ALSO alot of running on Wednesday and Friday morning. Friday-Sunday off from weights, but I still do abs and pushups in my dorm Sunday night typically. Friday and Saturday night I usually do go out and consume some alcohol mixed drinks... typically lemonade mixedLast edited by Athlete127; 02-02-2011 at 10:45 PM.
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Do I need a cheat meal once a week? I typically haven't. I've only cheated twice probably in the last couple months. Once 2 weeks ago with a chicken fried steak on my Sunday night meal, then also the last two nights we ended up at waffle house... First night I had 2 grilled chicken wraps with lettuce,tomato lettuce, so that should have been a good meal, am I right,minus the tortilla? Then last night I had the EXACT same thing, plus 3 over easy eggs, and half of a waffle... I figure the eggs and waffle were my cheat? Or were both nights cheating ? I feel terrible about it.
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02-07-2011, 09:13 AM #19Member
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Also, if I may ask. What is the purpose of the natural table spoon of peanut butter before bed with my shake and a spoon for my snacks. In the thread I was told since I am a receiver, and I want to be lean muscle, I was told to switch off syntha 6 because the high fat, BUT that natural peanut butter has a ton of fat in it also.?
& I have a bagel with the rest of my breakfast (oatmeal,eggs,protein shake, and 2 pieces of whole wheat bread at lunch. Too many carbs?Last edited by Athlete127; 02-07-2011 at 09:38 AM.
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02-07-2011, 06:11 PM #20
NEED a cheat meal? No. If you want to have one, go for it but make sure it's planned, not random.
We all slip up, don't beat yourself up over what you had. It could have been much worse. Just try and keep these incidents the exception and not the norm.
Fat slows protein absorption. The only 2 times that would be a desirable effect IMO is before you go to bed (because you will go without food/protein for several hours, so you want to stretch out your last meal as long as possible while you sleep), or before you go without food for a long period of time (i.e. a meeting that will last several hours and you know you'll be skipping a meal).
We told you to drop Syntha-6 not only because of the fats, but that was one reason. You were trying to have a protein shake, not a bunch of fat with it.
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