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    lost pump on test e and tren a cycle..must be diet prob

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    currently on 10 weeks of test e 500mgs ew and 2 weeks on tren a 120mgs. Ever since i hit tren i let loose on my diet due to my huge appetite increase, i still ate clean but i had at least one cheat meal everyday. Past last 3-4 days i went back on clean diet with porb less calories but still enough to make me grow. I dont get it bc when i let loose on my diet, i looked sick, my viens where poppin like crazy, i looked full and hard but not dry. Now that i diet last 2 times i had no good pumps at the gym, looked little flat and my muscle and skin would get super tight. Im trying to grow as much as i can on this cycle but i want to stay lean, what would u suggest?

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    " I had at least one cheat meal everyday" "I want to stay lean". Having those two sentences in the same paragraph is the majority of your problem.

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    well due to trens strengh i was able to stay lean and have a cheat meal but i noticed it started catching up by looking at my abs. I just wonder why did i feel and looked better and it went away

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat_matt85 View Post
    well due to trens strengh i was able to stay lean and have a cheat meal but i noticed it started catching up by looking at my abs. I just wonder why did i feel and looked better and it went away
    You completly contradict urself in this post...

    "because tren is strong you were able to cheat and stay lean, but then u noticed u were getting fat"??????????

    I dont get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    You completly contradict urself in this post...

    "because tren is strong you were able to cheat and stay lean, but then u noticed u were getting fat"??????????

    I dont get it
    x2 - if it caught up with you, you were never staying lean. You just didn't notice it creeping up for a bit.

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    after reading what i wrote last night i confused my self...i was so tired and out of it i made no sense. Should i run really high calorie diet while on tren for it to fully work?

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