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    First cycle. Anavar. Diet confusion!

    So I've been working out for 4-5 years now and decided to start an anavar cycle soon but I'm unclear as how to figure out the best diet. Do I stick to a 45p 40c 15f? Im 165lb 5'10, and around 19bf%

    I want to lean out but at the same time I worry that I don't have enough muscle mass. Should I change my diet during the cycle or is there not enough time to switch from a cutting diet to a lean mass diet? I'm confused any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Anyone?

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    First, what's your age?
    Second, you bf% is high, you need diet and cardio to lower your bf% before anything. How's your diet look's like?

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    I'm 23,

    Today this is what I ate.


    Jun 29

    530
    3 whole eggs 2 egg whites 26/3/3.5 cal 242
    Banana
    1.5/31/0.45 121

    Fish oil 0/0/1.3

    855
    4oz chicken breast
    30/0/1 130
    half cup broc
    1/3/0 13

    1100
    130g Tuna in sunflower oil
    35/3/6

    1225
    4oz chicken breast
    30/0/1 130cal
    half cup broc
    1/3/0 13cal

    600pm
    PWO
    1 scoop Iso whey 24P 2.5C 1F
    120g blue berries

    700pm
    PPWO
    6 oz talapia 24g protien?


    Before bed
    1 scoop iso whey 24P 2.5C 1F
    120g blueberries .5/10/2 39Cal

    I do shift work so this is typical for days. Is anavar not sufficient for a first cycle if I'm not wanting to get huge right now. Just tone and add lean muscle mass?

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    Oh and vit c 1000 (I think) in the morning as well as a multi vit
    Last edited by mittmittmitt; 06-29-2011 at 03:03 PM.

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    You diet looks like for cut.
    You not going to bulk, not even with anavar .
    Need improved in the diet, lower your bf%, and wait 2 years to go with TEST.

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    Well I am trying to cut. I would like to be down to 11%.

    Could you suggest how I could alter my diet for lean mass while on anavar ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mittmittmitt View Post
    Well I am trying to cut. I would like to be down to 11%.

    Could you suggest how I could alter my diet for lean mass while on anavar?
    You don't seem to get it. Anavar does not make you lose weight diet does. You are not ready for steroids because of your age and poor dieting. You should read the stickies and educate yourself on how to feed your body with proper nutrition to grow and lose weight as nobody is going to spoon feed you. As well, an Anavar only cycle is not wise.

    Weight gain and weight loss is strictly determined by dieting and cardio - no amount of steroids will help you without a proper diet. You are still a few years away from steroids.

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    Okay, so I'll dial in my diet to hopefully not lose any muscle mass and drop my bf to maybe 10% or lower. At that point (maybe 2 years down the road), should I use Anavar (+test), would I stick to a bulking diet or cutting?

    I appreciate the precautions and suggestions, I wasn't planning on doing it this year anyways. I'm just preparing, learning.

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    Also windex or others could you show where I could improve my diet for cutting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mittmittmitt View Post
    I'm 23,

    Today this is what I ate.


    Jun 29

    530
    3 whole eggs 2 egg whites 26/3/3.5 cal 242 Switch this with your chicken in the next meal if possible, not a big deal if you cannot.
    Banana Replace for a complex carb (Brown Rice, Quinoa, Oats, Lentils, Chickpeas, etc)
    1.5/31/0.45 121

    Fish oil 0/0/1.3

    855
    4oz chicken breast
    30/0/1 130
    half cup broc
    1/3/0 13
    Add a fat to this meal - Olive oil, nuts, replacing chicken with Fish or Lean/Extra lean ground beef, natural peanut butter, etc

    1100
    130g Tuna in sunflower oil No problems with this meal.
    35/3/6

    1225
    4oz chicken breast
    30/0/1 130cal
    half cup broc
    1/3/0 13cal
    I am assuming this is a preworkout meal since 6:00 is post workout? If that is the case you need a complex carb, see above for your options.

    600pm
    PWO
    1 scoop Iso whey 24P 2.5C 1F
    120g blue berries
    I don't know the macros for these berries but you could also add a complex carb (between berries & complex carb you probably want ~50-75g of carbs total.

    700pm
    PPWO
    6 oz talapia 24g protien? This meal is fine.


    Before bed
    1 scoop iso whey 24P 2.5C 1F Replace with cottage cheese, lean steak, or casein powder if the first two are not options.
    120g blueberries .5/10/2 39Cal Remove for either nothing or a fat source or flax seed / it's derivatives

    I do shift work so this is typical for days. Is anavar not sufficient for a first cycle if I'm not wanting to get huge right now. Just tone and add lean muscle mass?
    See bold. I am giving you this advise under the assumption that you are being honest about not taking ANavar nor any other anabolic compound for the next few years.

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    Also need advice

    I am 42 (although in my head I'm still in my 20s!). I just had a baby in November and I have been doing cardio and watching my diet for the past 3 months trying to get back into shape. I know that I have several things going against me.. namely my age. I was 130... now I'm hovering around 170. No matter what I do I cannot seem to lose anything and it is VERY frustrating! I just got my order of Avanvar in.. I've tried Winstrol and very low dosage of test. I only seem to get more bulky.. which is NOT what I wanted. So a trainer recommended I do this after his wife had children.. snd now she is getting ready to compete and looks incredible. Now, that being said.. I need help. I am open to ideas on diet and exercise... what I'm doing is just not getting it.
    Thanks for any help!

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    ^^ Welcome L8yrMOm...

    To get specific advice just for you, please start a new thread including what you stated above plus anything else you might find pertinent.
    We can help you to shed BF. And steroids with a higher BF will only make matters worse. It is all in what you eat. Plain and simple. And I am learning this myself EVERY SINGLE DAY!

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    thank you... I will repost it on a new thread

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