Constantly hungry... making it hard to achieve cutting goals

[ANIMAL]

I've been around the block, no newbie here when it comes to cycling. I'm 25, 5'5 @ 170lbs.

My current cycle is as follows:

1-12 Prop 100mg EOD
1-12 Anavar 60mg ED
6-12 Masteron 100mg EOD

I'm on week 7, I've gained a lot of muscle and cut down a lot of my BF but I'm no where near satisfied (when are we ever?) I'm having a real hard time getting to my goal because I'm literally always starving. Just to give you a break down of a typical day of eating:

730am 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs/turkey
930am 1 cup oatmeal/banana
1145am 24g whey protein
130pm 8oz grilled chicken/1 cup brown rice or sweet potato/small spinach salad
345pm 1 cup greek yogurt w/oats, 1/2 cup raw almonds
530pm 24g protein
730pm 1 cup oatmeal/strawberries/blueberries
8pm workout
10pm 45g protein
11pm 8oz grilled chicken/1 cup brown rice

I don't have it broken down into macros, but I just wanted to show what I'm eating throughout the day. My diet is a low fat, high protein, med carb diet. Maybe this isn't working for my body? It's getting frustrating.

Anyone with experience care to critique and tell me what I could possibly do different?

[Srobis15]

Macros would help, but i know what you are saying man. I have a hard time with cutting as well. I was on a Tren/Test cycle and my appetite was so high that I couldnt even allow myself cheat days otherwise I wouldnt stop. I would end up eating like 6 large pizzas and a box of donuts. Try breaking it down into macros. If you have more of an endo body type, you might need to cut your carbs down a tad more. I have the endo type body, and when I cut I try not to go over 130 carbs a day. Of course this does not work for everyone, and it makes it a bitch to try and maintain strength with no energy.

Try keeping your carbs limited to breakfast, preworkout and postworkout.

[jimmyinkedup]

One Word - vegetables
broccoli , califlower , green beans , green pepper , celery , spinach...
3 -4 servings/day with or between meals will make a huge difference plus be a healthy addition re: vitamins , antioxidants etc....

[ANIMAL]

One Word - vegetables
broccoli , califlower , green beans , green pepper , celery , spinach...
3 -4 servings/day with or between meals will make a huge difference plus be a healthy addition re: vitamins , antioxidants etc....

I had 4 servings of vegetables in my diet and I was getting bad acid reflux and bloating. I didn't think that was it, so I cut it down A LOT as you can see to just 1 serving and I don't have it anymore. Always ate the darker green vegetables too, ie. broccoli, spinach, string beans, peas.

Feel like I'm cheating myself because at week 7 I figured I'd be at a different level. I'm thinking that maybe my body has gotten use to the strict diet and I don't allow any cheat days or eat any "out of the circle" foods. I may have to throw a cheat day in there at least once a week to shock the body. Can anyone justify that?

[jimmyinkedup]

I had 4 servings of vegetables in my diet and I was getting bad acid reflux and bloating. I didn't think that was it, so I cut it down A LOT as you can see to just 1 serving and I don't have it anymore. Always ate the darker green vegetables too, ie. broccoli, spinach, string beans, peas.

Feel like I'm cheating myself because at week 7 I figured I'd be at a different level. I'm thinking that maybe my body has gotten use to the strict diet and I don't allow any cheat days or eat any "out of the circle" foods. I may have to throw a cheat day in there at least once a week to shock the body. Can anyone justify that?

Ive heard some say this (cheat) works for what you are expeiencing. Something about the protein hormone leptin and its effect on satiation. I dont know for sure....

[sebaco2011]

Two words ... Intermittent fasting

Leangains.com

Bro this is the best ever! I use to be exactly like you when I would cut , now that I dont eat breakfast and just wait to eat around 2 -4 pm I am not hungry at all its weird , it took like a couple days to get use to but its just so perfect, especially that last meal , helps ya get to bed faster. Before it was so hard for me to get to sleep since I would be so hungry .

Definitely give this a try , if this doesn't work then try making a bunch of vegetables broiled in water and drink the water as a stock with the vegetables this will definitely work ! I reccomend collard greens not to bad tasting very low on calories and works the best in my opinion , haven't had to use vegetables with the whole intermittent fasting , so give it a try!

[ANIMAL]

Two words ... Intermittent fasting

Leangains.com

Bro this is the best ever! I use to be exactly like you when I would cut , now that I dont eat breakfast and just wait to eat around 2 -4 pm I am not hungry at all its weird , it took like a couple days to get use to but its just so perfect, especially that last meal , helps ya get to bed faster. Before it was so hard for me to get to sleep since I would be so hungry .

Definitely give this a try , if this doesn't work then try making a bunch of vegetables broiled in water and drink the water as a stock with the vegetables this will definitely work ! I reccomend collard greens not to bad tasting very low on calories and works the best in my opinion , haven't had to use vegetables with the whole intermittent fasting , so give it a try!

That's the dumbest shit I ever heard.

[ShadowWarrior646]

I'm no diet/nutrition specialist, but I know starvation diets (skipping meals, only eating once a day) will royally screw you up. Don't do that, it's just stupid.

[MR-FQ320]

I don't know what you are trying to achieve with that diet, you are eating protein only one meal then carbs only the next why ? Diet needs an overhaul IMO, I can go through it in more detail later.

[MR-FQ320]

Need diet with macros also, the key to cracking the diet is to work out the macros for each food then each meal and then add them up for a daily total, the answers lie within.

[ANIMAL]

Need diet with macros also, the key to cracking the diet is to work out the macros for each food then each meal and then add them up for a daily total, the answers lie within.

That's why I'm here, I know it needs big time work.

I don't know what you are trying to achieve with that diet, you are eating protein only one meal then carbs only the next why ? Diet needs an overhaul IMO, I can go through it in more detail later.

I'm going to do that after work today.

[gbrice75]

Two words ... Intermittent fasting

Leangains.com

Bro this is the best ever! I use to be exactly like you when I would cut , now that I dont eat breakfast and just wait to eat around 2 -4 pm I am not hungry at all its weird , it took like a couple days to get use to but its just so perfect, especially that last meal , helps ya get to bed faster. Before it was so hard for me to get to sleep since I would be so hungry .

Definitely give this a try , if this doesn't work then try making a bunch of vegetables broiled in water and drink the water as a stock with the vegetables this will definitely work ! I reccomend collard greens not to bad tasting very low on calories and works the best in my opinion , haven't had to use vegetables with the whole intermittent fasting , so give it a try!

x2. Intermittent Fasting is nothing new, and Martin Berkman's Leangains is a great approach.

That's the dumbest shit I ever heard.

Don't knock it till' you try it. Plenty of people have had mega success using IF dieting techniques. Just because you've been programmed over the years through 'broscience' doesn't make what you've learned gospel, or 'the right way'.

There are many ways to skin a cat; eating 6-8 smaller meals/day is one of them, but it's not the only one.

I'm no diet/nutrition specialist, but I know starvation diets (skipping meals, only eating once a day) will royally screw you up. Don't do that, it's just stupid.

Your post is flawed is flawed in more ways than one. Firstly, only eating once a day and a 'starvation diet' are not the same thing. If I eat a huge feast of a meal, 2500 calories in one sitting (don't tell me it's not possible, it certainly is), am I on a starvation diet? (note - when I run an IF diet, I prefer 3 large meals per day, but used the example of 1 meal as the extreme, and also that's what the OP said)

A starvation diet can be defined as a diet based around severe calorie restriction. The early stages of the HCG diet is a starvation diet - and I disagree with it whole heartedly, especially for anybody living the lifestyle of a bodybuilder.

I suggest you do some research on the topic, or at least post research to the contrary to back up your claims before making a post like this.

[MR-FQ320]

work out macros here http://www.myfitnesspal.com fill in the diary or just use as a tool to work out macros for individual meals or foods.

Your diet should be in this format below, this is my current lean bulk diet, you need to set it out like this from now on, note: protein in every meal, carbs early in day and / or around workout. your calories are going to be lower anyway, OP you need to start reading a bit more...

p/c/f/cals
730am Breakfast: 200g egg whites 21.6/1.2/0.6/156
3 weetabix 6.5/43.5//0.8/270
totals: 28.1/44.7/1.4/426 . A little bit different to the norm but i have started eating them
0930am
1 scoop isolate whey 23/0.1/0.3/93
40g oats 5/27/3/150
totals : 28/27.1/3.3/243

1130 am Pre workout: 125g brown rice: 9.9/96.5/3.6/448
5oz chicken breast 43.8/0/5.1/234
spinnach
totals: 51.7/77.2/8/592

1400 PWO shake: 2 scoops whey isolate: 46/0/1/185
120g oats: 15/81/9/450
totals: 56/54/7/485

1800 Dinner : 75g brown rice 5.7/55.8/2.1/267
1 tin tuna: 32.6/0/0.6/136
1 tsp EVOO, 2 tsp red wine vinegar, splash soy sauce, garlic and peppers, spinnach ( macros not worth adding up)
totals: 38.3/55.8/2.7/403

2000 10 min work break :red salmon 38.8/0/13.2 /278 if i could get some veggies in that dont require preparing or warming then maybe.

2230 supper 150g cottage cheese : 14.4g/6.9/2.25/105
1tbsp natty pb 3.5/3/8/75
totals : 32.3/16.8/12.5/285

2/3 am: 1 scoop myprotein bedtime extreme : 21.7/1.3/1.1/101 it was in the daily totals before but not itemised.


Daily totals: 287/317/50/2948
43.8%/48.5%/7.6%

[Twist]

If you gained muscle and lost bodyfat then your cals are lower than they should be and the only reason you gained muscle is because of the gear. If you come off you will lose it unless you up your cals. Listen to your body. meals should be protein and carbs with last one protein and fat.

[spywizard]

low energy???

TRY legumes - beans at every meal..

[ANIMAL]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to take today to clean up my diet, I'll report it later.

[ANIMAL]

so I revised my diet on what I eat during the day into macros. Based off of this diet what should I be doing to cut fat loss?

Calories/Carbs/Fat/Protein

8am Breakfast:

6 egg whites 150/0/0/30
3oz low sodium turkey 60/0/1/12
1oz Boars Head Lacey Swiss 90/0/6/9
1c oatmeal 300/54/6/10
.5c blueberries 41/11/0/1
Total: 641/65/13/62

1030am Mid Morning snack:

.5c oatmeal 150/27/3/5
1 scoop OPT. Nutrition Protein 130/4/1.5/24
Total: 280/31/4.5/29

115pm Lunch:

2 Purdue Grilled Chicken Breast 280/2/5/56
1 Medium sweet potato 103/24/0/2
.5c brown rice 109/23/1/3
Total: 492/49/6/61

4pm Mid afternoon snack:

.5c oatmeal 150/27/3/5
1 scoop OPT. Nutrition Protein 130/4/1.5/24
Total: 280/31/4.5/29

7pm Pre-Workout:

1 slice Wonder Smart Wheat Bread 50/8/1/3
3oz low sodium turkey 60/0/1/12
Total: 110/8/2/15

945pm Post-Workout:

ABB Pure Pro 50 260/9/3/50
Total: 260/9/3/50

1030pm Dinner:

3oz Grilled Chicken 165/0/3/33
.5c brown rice 109/23/1/3
1c spinach 41/7/0/5
Total: 315/30/4/41

Total for the day:2,738/223/37/287