hOW TO BOOST my apetite?!??! help!

[blazerelf]

I'm having trouble to eat the total amount of meals I should daily, and basicaly the problem is in the Oat, i mix oat with my daily two shakes, and to be clear this is a must, i count every single calorie I consume and since Im an ectomorph neglecting those oat is not an option; I have to actually force myself to consume it but after some time it began to be a problem, it always turn into a risk of vomiting from doing that, beside that for what it takes to gain enough weight its not going to be a very enjoyable life knowing u have to force oat in ur daily bases also since oats has alot of fibre and digest pritty slow even after 2-3 hours im not like that much hungry for the next meal; the only time when I'm able to take in those oat normaly no forcing is post workout but on the rest days and the 2nd shake (i usually take it before bed) is difficult; so my question is is their any good technique to boost my hunger some bit more? or any otehr good source of complex carb i could use?

Oh by the way I take 3 cups oat daily (1.5 cup twice a day mixed on my protein shake)

[Twist]

ghrp-6
equipoise

Have you tried switching to a fast digesting carb source? If you are skinny then there is not too much need to avoid these types of carbs. Also a shake with oats is worth sacrificing for a real meal.

[blazerelf]

ghrp-6
equipoise

Have you tried switching to a fast digesting carb source? If you are skinny then there is not too much need to avoid these types of carbs. Also a shake with oats is worth sacrificing for a real meal.

fast digesting carb will digest too quick to be my daily long lasting fuel which will have me satisfied for a dicent amounf of time ( like 2-3 hours) without grunting and feeling too hungry while buisy in college, gym or whatever im doing; beside taking a equal amount of simple carbs to the one i did in complex to not be eating less will be alot of sweet lol ( 3 cups oat= 310g carbs) tahts alot and i really dont want to go for less.
About sacrifying shake for real meal , having a post workout meal worth as my 50g prot and aprox 400g carb will be hard and expensive.

[little_dude]

fast digesting carb will digest too quick to be my daily long lasting fuel which will have me satisfied for a dicent amounf of time ( like 2-3 hours) without grunting and feeling too hungrywhile buisy in college, gym or whatever im doing; beside taking a equal amount of simple carbs to the one i did in complex to not be eating less will be alot of sweet lol ( 3 cups oat= 310g carbs) tahts alot and i really dont want to go for less.
About sacrifying shake for real meal , having a post workout meal worth as my 50g prot and aprox 400g carb will be hard and expensive.

Ok no offense dude but your not making much sense. You say that due to the slow absorbtion of oats you are not hungry for your next meal, well thats why twist said eat faster digesting carbs, so that you will feel hungry after a shorter amount of time. also i'm sure the 400g carbs post workout is a typo, is it not?

to Twist, why are u advising gear to him, his stats are like 20 yo 5'10 150lbs?

[jasc]

Cut down the amount of oats... why use 1.5 cups per shake? that's like 81g carbs not counting whatever is in your protein mix... I use 1 cup, approx 54g carbs, ground in to almost a fine powder.. Doesn't affect my appetite at all..

[blazerelf]

Ok no offense dude but your not making much sense. You say that due to the slow absorbtion of oats you are not hungry for your next meal, well thats why twist said eat faster digesting carbs, so that you will feel hungry after a shorter amount of time. also i'm sure the 400g carbs post workout is a typo, is it not?

to Twist, why are u advising gear to him, his stats are like 20 yo 5'10 150lbs?

not making sense?hmm..whaT I mean was that yeah oat fills me too muhc even after my next meal, but on the otehr side simple carbs leave me too hungy before it. I have tryed to replace with fruits and otehr source of simple carns and i would be grunting like an hours or lesss; so i need is something between nto being too fast to digest and neither too stuffing for me.
400g was no mistake1.5 cup has like 310g carb + im using gainer which has 110g carb on its own (simple and complex).

[blazerelf]

Cut down the amount of oats... why use 1.5 cups per shake? that's like 81g carbs not counting whatever is in your protein mix... I use 1 cup, approx 54g carbs, ground in to almost a fine powder.. Doesn't affect my appetite at all..

because I use many calories calculator (including the one in diet section sticky) to pritty precisely know how much calories and macros of each I need to manage with my lifestyle and still gain some bit, and thats about 5000 calories where 2g per lb which is 300g forme are from protein; about 20% (aprox 15g ) is fat (from fish oil and beef) and the rest are carbs (about 600g a day).
I walk alot (I have no option) so I do burn alot of calories, and eatign this way has helped me gain (I don't gain much but I have never lost completely my abs in the 30lbs i have gained eating this way which means im growing dicently lean)
But aftet a long.. time following similar a very identical and unchangable diet I start to feel some disgust to the thick, fibrous oat; which was always a problem but controlable but now it's turning into too much effort.

[little_dude]

not making sense?hmm..whaT I mean was that yeah oat fills me too muhc even after my next meal, but on the otehr side simple carbs leave me too hungy before it. I have tryed to replace with fruits and otehr source of simple carns and i would be grunting like an hours or lesss; so i need is something between nto being too fast to digest and neither too stuffing for me.
400g was no mistake1.5 cup has like 310g carb + im using gainer which has 110g carb on its own (simple and complex).

Ok so oats fill u up too much, fruits and such leave u too hungry then the obvious answer is to have a mix of the two. Also 400g of carbs is way too much to consume in one sitting. Also ur measurements are completely off. In post #3 u stated 3 cups = 310g, then u state 1.5 cups is 310g. Unless ur using really big cups these numbers are way off anyway.

because I use many calories calculator (including the one in diet section sticky) to pritty precisely know how much calories and macros of each I need to manage with my lifestyle and still gain some bit, and thats about 5000 calories where 2g per lb which is 300g forme are from protein; about 20% (aprox 15g ) is fat (from fish oil and beef) and the rest are carbs (about 600g a day).
I walk alot (I have no option) so I do burn alot of calories, and eatign this way has helped me gain (I don't gain much but I have never lost completely my abs in the 30lbs i have gained eating this way which means im growing dicently lean)
But aftet a long.. time following similar a very identical and unchangable diet I start to feel some disgust to the thick, fibrous oat; which was always a problem but controlable but now it's turning into too much effort.

Ok now this has to be a typo I'm assuming u meant to type 150g of fat as 15g of fat is only about 135 calories which is barely anything. To avoid any further confusion why don't you just post your whole diet with times and macros fo each meal. Also list your stats as well please. Thanks

[Dukkit]

Like littledude said... EAT A MIXTURE of carb types. Some fruit with less oats. Or switch an oat meal to sweet potatoes.

As for the question on how to increase your hunger....

Morning cardio. It will leave you starving the rest of the day.
And yes you can do cardio even though you are trying to gain weight.

[Twist]

I can tell you right now that your problem is that you aren't eating real food. Your posts are confusing and the contradict each other. Trying to gain? Well if you eat fast digesting carbs and the problem is that they make you hungry too soon the solution = you're welcome, eat again. That's how you gain. If your shake is pwo then you should be taking in fast carbs anyway if you are small and trying to gain. Not because they are better than oats but just because they are easy to take in in large amounts and eat again soon after. If the shake you are referring to is not pwo then the answer is eat real food. That's where your problem is anyway.

to Twist, why are u advising gear to him, his stats are like 20 yo 5'10 150lbs?

the title of the thread was how to boost my appetite. I'm just answering questions. I have no idea what this guy looks like.

[blazerelf]

Ok so oats fill u up too much, fruits and such leave u too hungry then the obvious answer is to have a mix of the two. Also 400g of carbs is way too much to consume in one sitting. Also ur measurements are completely off. In post #3 u stated 3 cups = 310g, then u state 1.5 cups is 310g. Unless ur using really big cups these numbers are way off anyway.



Ok now this has to be a typo I'm assuming u meant to type 150g of fat as 15g of fat is only about 135 calories which is barely anything. To avoid any further confusion why don't you just post your whole diet with times and macros fo each meal. Also list your stats as well please. Thanks

Lol I did a bunch of mistake with the numebrs i mean 3 cups=620g and 1.5 cup=310 and eyah i mean 150g fat. Ill post the diet.

[blazerelf]

7:00am 2 scoops G-mass/1.5 cup oat/ 3 tbs fish oil
1705g/60g/228g/73g
8:00am GYM!
10:00am 2 scoops G-mass + 3tbs olive oil /2 ozturkey (i put olive oil in this shake to add some more fat to my diet )
809/47/74/43
1:00pm 1 cup white rise/ aprox 3-4 oz chicken/beef/fish/turkey may vary between these 4
455g/10g/53g/35g
3:00pm 1 cup white rise/ aprox 3-4 oz chicken/beef/fish/turkey may vary between these 4
455g/10g/53g/35g
7:30pm 3 oz chicken
140g/3g/0g/26g
10:00pm 3 whole medium eggs (only eat them on workout days to becasue of the cholesterol; i may replase in other days with either cottage cheese or turkey)
195g/13g/1g/16g I actually wanted to make something better here but, This a in between clases meal so i only have 5 mintues to eat so thisi s the quickest meal to eat i could take to college
12:00pm 2 scoops G-mass/oat/ 1 cup milk
1497/28/240/81

sub TOTAL: 5242/164/653/317

taking into acount average daily calories burned on the gym, walking,lifestyle,etc is:

TOTAL:4153/144/653/317(This is what I really concider my real calorie total)


Just incase someone care of mroe details liek my workout and pics for more sugestions or so ehre is a link where i gave more details if need http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.TlxFB6hfZBk

[boxa06]

Calories/fats/carbs/protien I'm guessing??

What are your stats? Didn't see them posted

[blazerelf]

Calories/fats/carbs/protien I'm guessing??

What are your stats? Didn't see them posted

check the link I placed please everything you might need to know about me(my stats) will be there, including macros, age, pics , detail of my lifestyle, etc.

[gym_junki]

Try periactin, it's a tab that docs will give to people to increase their appetite. You don't need a script for it

[little_dude]

I can tell you right now that your problem is that you aren't eating real food. Your posts are confusing and the contradict each other. Trying to gain? Well if you eat fast digesting carbs and the problem is that they make you hungry too soon the solution = you're welcome, eat again. That's how you gain. If your shake is pwo then you should be taking in fast carbs anyway if you are small and trying to gain. Not because they are better than oats but just because they are easy to take in in large amounts and eat again soon after. If the shake you are referring to is not pwo then the answer is eat real food. That's where your problem is anyway.

My point exactly. follow this OP

the title of the thread was how to boost my appetite. I'm just answering questions. I have no idea what this guy looks like.

Fair enough

[little_dude]

Lol I did a bunch of mistake with the numebrs i mean 3 cups=620g and 1.5 cup=310 and eyah i mean 150g fat. Ill post the diet.

OK those oats numbers seem way of to me. are you using extremely large cups. I use a standard cup (usually used for tea/coffee) and 1 cup of quaker oats is about 50ish grams of carbs. you should use a weighing scale to double check how much oats in a cup. remember 50g of oats isnt always equal to 50 grams of carbs.

[Twist]

1:00pm 1 cup white rise/ aprox 3-4 oz chicken/beef/fish/turkey may vary between these 4
455g/10g/53g/35g
3:00pm 1 cup white rise/ aprox 3-4 oz chicken/beef/fish/turkey may vary between these 4
455g/10g/53g/35g
7:30pm 3 oz chicken
140g/3g/0g/26g
10:00pm 3 whole medium eggs (only eat them on workout days to becasue of the cholesterol; i may replase in other days with either cottage cheese or turkey)
195g/13g/1g/16g I actually wanted to make something better here but, This a in between clases meal so i only have 5 mintues to eat so thisi s the quickest meal to eat i could take to college

What are the macros (total/split) for the above food choices. Whatever it is, that is what you are eating. Don't bother counting all those shitty shakes. IF you are a hard gainer they will get you nowhere and as such don't need to be counted in.