After some experimenting, time to dial in

**Panzerfaust** · 09-12-2011, 03:59 PM

I've been training my ass off for the first time in a long time. Finally got the consistency back that had been lacking. I've been playing with my diet and I think it's time to dial this bitch in

I've played with this

ON Whey w/ .5 Cup Oats 370kCals 4g Fa 29g Carb 51g Pro

ON Whey w/ 7 Tbsp Dextrose 472kCals 1g Fat 69g Carb 46g Pro

7oz Turkey w/ Wrap 308kCals 5.6g Fat 16g Carb 53g Pro

6oz Chicken w/ Green Veggies, 2Tbsp Natty PB 285kCals 12.5g Fat 3g Carb 37g Pro

Tuna w/ 1 Tbsp Mayo 250kCals 13.5g Fat 0g Carb 32.5g Pro

6oz Chicken w/ Green Veggies, 2Tbsp Natty PB 285kCals 12.5g Fat 3g Carb 37g Pro

Syntha-6 (2 scoops) 400kCals 12g Fat 26g Carb 44g Pro

2370kCals 47.6g Fat 146g Carb 300.5g Pro

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Here is my latest experiment

1c Liquid Egg Whites, 2 Carbmaster Yogurt 270kCals 3g Fat 14g Carb 46g Pro

7oz Turkey w/ Wrap 308kCals 5.6g Fat 16g Carb 53g Pro

Tuna w/ 1 Tbsp Mayo 250kCals 13.5g Fat 0g Carb 32.5g Pro

Workout

1c Liquid Egg Whites, 2 Carbmaster Yogurt 270kCals 3g Fat 14g Carb 46g Pro

6oz Chicken w/ Green Veggies, 2Tbsp Natty PB 285kCals 12.5g Fat 3g Carb 37g Pro

Tuna w/ 1 Tbsp Mayo 250kCals 13.5g Fat 0g Carb 32.5g Pro

6oz Chicken 2Tbsp Natty PB 285kCals 12.5g Fat 3g Carb 37g Pro

1c Liquid Egg Whites, 2 Carbmaster Yogurt 270kCals 3g Fat 14g Carb 46g Pro

2,188k Cals 66.6g Fat 64g Carb 330g Pro

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I'm thinking more along the lines of this, i've really liked the addition of Carbmaster Yogurt /w Liquid Egg Whites so I am going to keep them but scale it back, 3 a day is not only expensive but a bit much of one thing and do not pull my finger, that's all I will say about that.

Dymatize Elite Fusion 7 Protein 380kCals 12g Fat 22g Carb 46g Pro

Tuna w/ 1 Tbsp Mayo 250kCals 13.5g Fat 0g Carb 32.5g Pro

7oz Turkey w/ Wrap 308kCals 5.6g Fat 16g Carb 53g Pro

Workout

1c Liquid Egg Whites, 2 Carbmaster Yogurt 270kCals 3g Fat 14g Carb 46g Pro

6oz Chicken 1c Brown Rice 480kCals 7.5g Fat 68g Carb 39g Pro

Tuna w/ 1 Tbsp Mayo 250kCals 13.5g Fat 0g Carb 32.5g Pro

1c Liquid Egg Whites, 2 Carbmaster Yogurt 270kCals 3g Fat 14g Carb 46g Pro

2208kCals 58g Fat 134g Carb 295g Pro

I can't weigh in today because I've eaten a cheat but i'm in the 240 range

I want to keep carbs around the training, I can add Flax to meal 1 but I am going to play with this over the next week and see how it goes. I can no longer go with what has worked in the past so that's why i've been a little all over the place.

**baseline_9** · 09-12-2011, 04:06 PM

Whats you Bodyfat percentage, aprox?

You say you have done the top two diets...

What happened when you did them?

What are you currently eating and what is your weight doing currently?

**Panzerfaust** · 09-12-2011, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Whats you Bodyfat percentage, aprox?

You say you have done the top two diets...

What happened when you did them?

What are you currently eating and what is your weight doing currently?

Bodyfat is through the roof and I don't know. Is there a percentage called "through the roof"? I'm also on right now so my weight had increased by 12lbs while on a combo of those first two. I need to bump cardio, i've been training in the AM and doing cardio in PM. I have lately been training in afternoon and doing cardio in PM. Training is good and I can definitely see the definition coming but I just think this 3rd approach will be better. I will play with it this week and see where I am and how I feel.

When you ask what I am currently eating, that is the second diet I posted.

**RaginCajun** · 09-13-2011, 07:03 AM

P, glad to see that you are motivated! 'thru the roof' has a percentage!! hahaha! never heard of carbmaster yogurt before, sounds like it is full of sugar. maybe try adding in some fasted cardio to help get things started.

**Panzerfaust** · 09-13-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

P, glad to see that you are motivated! 'thru the roof' has a percentage!! hahaha! never heard of carbmaster yogurt before, sounds like it is full of sugar. maybe try adding in some fasted cardio to help get things started.

No its solid, I got that gem of advice form RR on here. He just finished #1 at a show. I've just never used it before and had been going to it 3x a day..gets kinda pricey so i'll knock it down to 2x ED.

The macros for it is 60kCals 1.5g Fat 4g Carb 8g Pro (It's a Kroger brand) and google it and you will see its a popular choice, I just never used it before.

Having meal #5 right now...

**RaginCajun** · 09-13-2011, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust

No its solid, I got that gem of advice form RR on here. He just finished #1 at a show. I've just never used it before and had been going to it 3x a day..gets kinda pricey so i'll knock it down to 2x ED.

The macros for it is 60kCals 1.5g Fat 4g Carb 8g Pro (It's a Kroger brand) and google it and you will see its a popular choice, I just never used it before.

Having meal #5 right now...

gotcha. i may have to try it myself. would cottage cheese be a bad substitute here?

**gbrice75** · 09-13-2011, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust

Is there a percentage called "through the roof"?

I hope you'll keep this updated so we can stay posted - i'm interested in following your progress. Are you planning to post some before and afters and/or progress pics? Personally, I think you should.

**Panzerfaust** · 09-13-2011, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by gbrice75

I hope you'll keep this updated so we can stay posted - i'm interested in following your progress. Are you planning to post some before and afters and/or progress pics? Personally, I think you should.

Personally I think I should just shoot myself but i'm trying to avoid that so no way. So why no comments on my new approach? Is it that awesome? Yay!

**gbrice75** · 09-13-2011, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust

Personally I think I should just shoot myself but i'm trying to avoid that so no way. So why no comments on my new approach? Is it that awesome? Yay!

lol, I know the feeling very well bro, i've been there more than once.

I'll be back later to really check out the approach and comment if you'd like me to. Right now a very pregnant wife is beckoning!!!

**Panzerfaust** · 09-14-2011, 05:28 PM

Today was day 2 of this approach and I have to say it's much better to keep the carbs up, felt much better, got a better pump. I'll run this for a few more weeks and adjust as I go.

**gbrice75** · 09-14-2011, 05:31 PM

I like the total macros in the 3rd diet you listed personally. The 2nd once is decent but carbs are a bit low IMO. As you already know, the only way to see what's what is to run it as you're doing and make the tweaks until you're dialed into your sweet spot. I assume the goal is a strict cut?

**Panzerfaust** · 09-15-2011, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by gbrice75

I like the total macros in the 3rd diet you listed personally. The 2nd once is decent but carbs are a bit low IMO. As you already know, the only way to see what's what is to run it as you're doing and make the tweaks until you're dialed into your sweet spot. I assume the goal is a strict cut?

Yeah, looking to cut but from being out so long, it's as if i'm blowing up a deflated balloon right now.

So far I like this better, I need a few weeks but training has been good and like you said, that second approach, carbs were too low and it really started killing me. I'll report back soon