Over 35 and Natural Muscle Gains. Not possible?

[CraigWatts]

Two factors when you're over 35:

1) Metabolism can be slow as hell
2) Androgen levels can be midrange, to low as hell

If you are trying to build *LEAN* muscle naturally, is that even possible at this age?

Here is why I ask. If you were to take in the required carbs and calories for someone your height and weight to gain muscle mass, you'd end up fat.

Why do i say that? refer to 1) and 2) above. Your metabolism at 22 was awesome, so you could take in 3000 calories and burn it off just by working out and going about your day. You fed your muscles and they ate it up. They grew. Your androgen levels were high so your body fat stayed naturally low because of that too.

Well guess what? Now you're over 35. You have neither of those, yet you're supposed to take in the same number of Calories for your height and weight?

Its not going to work. Protein intake is easy. Chicken, Eggs, Protein Shakes. Simple to hit the numbers.

But you can't just do protein and low / no carbs. Your muscle bulk will suffer.

So how do you feed your muscles what they need when you've got a failing body that can't process out the excess anymore?

[slfmade]

Two factors when you're over 35:

1) Metabolism can be slow as hell
2) Androgen levels can be midrange, to low as hell

If you are trying to build *LEAN* muscle naturally, is that even possible at this age?

Here is why I ask. If you were to take in the required carbs and calories for someone your height and weight to gain muscle mass, you'd end up fat.

Why do i say that? refer to 1) and 2) above. Your metabolism at 22 was awesome, so you could take in 3000 calories and burn it off just by working out and going about your day. You fed your muscles and they ate it up. They grew. Your androgen levels were high so your body fat stayed naturally low because of that too.

Well guess what? Now you're over 35. You have neither of those, yet you're supposed to take in the same number of Calories for your height and weight?
Its not going to work. Protein intake is easy. Chicken, Eggs, Protein Shakes. Simple to hit the numbers.

But you can't just do protein and low / no carbs. Your muscle bulk will suffer.

So how do you feed your muscles what they need when you've got a failing body that can't process out the excess anymore?

Who told you that???? Caloric intake should based around your TDEE...Research TDEE

Also....it's still very possible to gain weight and/or Cut at 35 yrs old. My stepdad is all natural and he has a great physique. He diets and trains properly and looks better than I do. He's almost 50

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Craig im 37 and experienced exactly wat ur talkin about.. 2 main factors were involved with myself:
1.DIET (had no idea how to eat and why)The biggest thing ive learned with diet is first figuring out how much u need to eat per day.. Not based on some antiquated notion of height and weight and age.. But even better based on lean body mass.. Read the stickies at the top of the page on TDEE and cutting... Ive gone from a frustrated 22% bf and 213 lbs to a very happy 12% bf and 190 lbs.. And still going.. And let me say the 12% is prob not exact but thats what the calipers say so im going with it.. I accomplished all this with the help of the great members of this forum between the end of september and now it can be dun.. U just gotta learn and work...

2.Low Testosterone: my free test was 7.3pg/mL and it shoulda been 25.1... I went just "to see where i was at" not expecting the result i got.. Ive been supplementing test for 7 weeks now and i feel WAY better.. Not to mention i am growing muscle and shape and losing fat and getting stronger.. I used to wake up tired after 8hrs sleep and drag my heavy butt around all day thinking it was just normal..

Now what r u gonna do about it??

[joebailey1271]

1. You have to figure your daily totals on lbm, not total weight, fat does not burn calories. Find out your body fat level and then rework the total needed calories for the day. Then take 500 off the daily total, or 250 and burn an extra 250 with cardio, when you loose some weight like 15 lbs or so, rework the needed calories and go from there. Dont make the mistake of going so low on your calories that you cause your body to go into starvation mode. I did that and lost alot of muscle before i realized it.

2. Low T, you need fats in your diet to have a healthy T level, I went pretty much a severe low fat diet and my T levels plumeted. I added the good fats (olive oil, nuts,eggs,etc) and it slowely went up to normal averages.

[Gym_]

Well i don't know about the rest of that technically crap but i can tell you that your title "Over 35 and Natural Muscle Gains. Not possible" is bullshit ..

I turn 40 this year and have put on 1.5 inch's on my biceps after 3 months in the gym wist losing 10 kg at the same time...

Yeah some juice would prob help but its still posabule... change that to over 60 might be a different story

[Gym_]

Mate i tell ya if that was true i would quit the gym from tonight on and crawl into a bottle of 12yr scotch never to be seen again...
in-fact if that was a statement and not a Q i would be soooooo pisssed and ripping anyone who agreed a rather large new one ..


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I dont need roids to have roid rage ..

[Back In Black]

Mate i tell ya if that was true i would quit the gym from tonight on and crawl into a bottle of 12yr scotch never to be seen again...
in-fact if that was a statement and not a Q i would be soooooo pisssed and ripping anyone who agreed a rather large new one ..


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I dont need roids to have roid rage ..

Ha, ha x2.

I'm 40, may as well quit now and put myself out to graze!

[Gym_]

About the size of it...

[tbody66]

I began training a 70 year old man this year and he has made amazing gains. Of course the question would need some qualifying information provided. If you have been lifting and training for 20 years, consistently and properly it will, at some point in time become almost to hard to measure gains. However, men and women of all ages with little or no history of exercising can make great gains at any stage of life. Heck dude, just watch "The Biggest Loser"

[CraigWatts]

Yes it was a question LOL

I'll get to work on the diet thing. I just cant seem to take in any carbs without getting bloated. I assumed that was metabolism related. Age related.

[Back In Black]

Yes it was a question LOL

I'll get to work on the diet thing. I just cant seem to take in any carbs without getting bloated. I assumed that was metabolism related. Age related.

Could be a bunch of different reasons. What type of carbs? How much? What were they combined with?

[tbody66]

Yes it was a question LOL

I'll get to work on the diet thing. I just cant seem to take in any carbs without getting bloated. I assumed that was metabolism related. Age related.

Sometimes we have minor allergies to certain foods that accumulate over time and BAM, or so it seems, our bodies react differently than they used to. For example, a slight allergic reaction to dairy might have little noticable affects until one day you become bloated, it seems instant but was probably a slightly increasing problem over your lifetime. I am 45 years old and find things that I used to be able to eat without having noticable negative affects isn't true for me anymore. Major culprits are wheat and dairy, check into this for possible signs or symptoms that ring a bell with what you are experiencing. We have a son with celiacs so much more open to things along those lines.

[Gym_]

Sounds like irritable bowel syndrome guys ....