Bulking snack tip

[BulkCity]

Rice crackers with Peanut butter
Each cracker with peanut butter contains 200 calories
10 crackers a day will equal 2000 calories a day just on snacks
and is Low Gi

Thoughts???

[-KJ-]

I dont think you would wanna be eating 2000 Calories in rice crackers and PB. I can think of so many ways to get 2000 calories from better food sources than that.

[BulkCity]

there for snacks though, ex. inbetween meals
Not as a meal choice

[--->>405<<---]

what are ur stats? age wt bf%? what r ur goals? u a hardgainer?

[BulkCity]

age: 18
Weight: 71kg
Bf: 12- 14%
Height: 172cm
And strong ecto

[BulkCity]

age: 18
Weight: 71kg
Bf: 12- 14%
Height: 172cm
And strong ecto

[Twin]

2,000 calories ? Strong amount of snacking per day.

[--->>405<<---]

how bout post ur GOALS and current diet...

[BulkCity]

My current goals are to gain muscle mass
I'm not too fussed on fat levels atm because my body doesnt hold alot of fat no matter how much i eat
Current diet is pretty basic, protien source with every meal and a carb source with every meal either simple or complex carbs.

[-KJ-]

2,000 calories ? Strong amount of snacking per day.

That's it! You don't need to snack this much... Add in quality protein and complex carbs. Eating 6-7 meals a day shouldn't really require snacking....

Post up full diet anyway and we can take a look

[Papiriqui]

That's it! You don't need to snack this much... Add in quality protein and complex carbs. Eating 6-7 meals a day shouldn't really require snacking....

Post up full diet anyway and we can take a look

I agree with KJ, i eat 8 meals a day, every 2 hrs so where on earth would i feet a snack!? Not to mention there is no need for them on my diet!

[--->>405<<---]

my guess is for u to gain the rite kind of weight the rite kind of way u need to post ur diet including all macros.. basewd on ur tdee we can create a strong surplus of clean cals from complex carbs protein and good fat.. if u dont see the weight coming like ud like simply increase ur macros bro...

now lets see that diet..

[BulkCity]

current diet:
Meal 1: 4 whole eggs, 2 wholegrain gulten free slices of bread, 1 bannana, 30g of mixed nuts

Meal 2: 185g of tuna, 1 apple, 1 bannana, 21g of wholegrain biscuits

Meal 3: 4 chicken tenderloins, 30g of muesli, 2 wholegrain gluten free slices of bread and 30g of almonds

Meal 4: protien shake (32g protien and 60g carbs) and 1 bannana

Meal 5: 200g of wholemea gluten free pasta, 1 average size porerhouse steak, handful of grapes

Meal 6 (Post workout): Creatine w/ waxy maize, protien shake, 1 glass of orange juice

Meal 7 (Before bed): 100g protien bar w/ carbs

The reason for gluten free bread and pasta is because i am obviously gluten intolerante..
Appreciate the help guys

[--->>405<<---]

^^^ ok how bout figure up total calories for this diet as well as grams of protein/carbs/fat..

at 14% ur tdee is 2617cals/day.. based on that id say 3000cals/day would be a good starting point for u.. u could even start at 3100 but i personally would rather
start with a more conservative surplus cuz my body holds onto fat.. u say urs doesnt so u may do well at 3100.. but like i said earlier first we need to see how many ur actually eating now ...would it be fair to assume ur havn trouble gaining weight which is why u wanna eat 2k cals of peanut butter???


once we see the macros for the diet u posted as well as how long uve been eating that diet we can try to make necessary adjustments...

[BBrian]

current diet:
Meal 1: 4 whole eggs, 2 wholegrain gulten free slices of bread, 1 bannana, 30g of mixed nuts

Meal 2: 185g of tuna, 1 apple, 1 bannana, 21g of wholegrain biscuits

Meal 3: 4 chicken tenderloins, 30g of muesli, 2 wholegrain gluten free slices of bread and 30g of almonds

Meal 4: protien shake (32g protien and 60g carbs) and 1 bannana

Meal 5: 200g of wholemea gluten free pasta, 1 average size porerhouse steak, handful of grapes

Meal 6 (Post workout): Creatine w/ waxy maize, protien shake, 1 glass of orange juice

Meal 7 (Before bed): 100g protien bar w/ carbs

The reason for gluten free bread and pasta is because i am obviously gluten intolerante..
Appreciate the help guys

On a side note, unless you're actually looking for a carb that takes a long time to be digested, get rid of the waxy maize. Through it away. All of the hype around this supplement was utter unfounded bunk. Your body digests a piece of white bread faster than it does waxy maize. Find a supplement with dextrose or maltodextrin in it (or both). I highly recommend Gaspari SizeOn. I drink it throughout my workout (mixed with 2k mg of Taurine and 1k mg of Vitamin C for good measure), preventing my glycogen levels crashing in the first place, but you could drink it afterwards as well if you so decided. I just personally find it more advantageous to keep glyocogen levels maximized at all times during a bulking phase. Also, while you have that trash can lid open for the waxy maize, toss the protein bar in with it. Find yourself a quality casein protein shake and drink that before bed instead (unless you found the 1 casein protein bar supplement that exists ). Also, you need to add a variety of vegetables and legumes to your diet for the sake of nutrients and vitamins. I also prefer to never use a shake as a meal, instead using shakes as a snake in between meals or as a "side" to maximize a meal's nutritional content, but I'm of the school of thought that the body will never be able to utilize a concentrated form of protein as well as real food. Aside from that, I was very impressed with what you posted as a daily intake. You're a good step ahead of most people trying to bulk.

[BulkCity]

I would be very intrested to see how many calories i would be consuming from this but ill be honest, i dont have a clue how to add up calories accuratley, taking a guess though i would say its around 3000,
Grams of protien for the day : 222g a day
Grams of Carbs for the day : 350 - 400g a day
Im not sure how much fat im consuming in grams.

Meals 2 - 4 are consumed at work, te reason for having a protien shake as meal 4 is because of it being convienet to have on the way home from work.

I do have trouble gaining weight but since i have been folowing this diet (Past 2 - 3 months) I am now weighing the heaviest i have ever been. I still don't think im eating enough carbs which is why im thinking of 2 rice crackers with peanut butter after 5 of the 7 meals will be a great help to me.

The reason i take waxy maize with creatine after my workout though is for the greater insulin spike, I've been told it has a higher glyceamic index than glucose powder.
thanks guys

[BBrian]

What you heard about waxy maize was incorrect. The stuff is a waste of money, but don't take my word for it, look up the studies that have been published on it. Whoever told you that just got suckered into the marketing hype created by the companies who manufactured it. After a workout it is of the utmost importance that you ingest a fast-absorbed glycogen. Waxy maize is NOT that.

Again, what you need is dextrose or maltodextrin or both.

[BulkCity]

thanks, will deffs look into it further

[--->>405<<---]

I would be very intrested to see how many calories i would be consuming from this but ill be honest, i dont have a clue how to add up calories accuratley, taking a guess though i would say its around 3000,
Grams of protien for the day : 222g a day
Grams of Carbs for the day : 350 - 400g a day
Im not sure how much fat im consuming in grams.

Meals 2 - 4 are consumed at work, te reason for having a protien shake as meal 4 is because of it being convienet to have on the way home from work.

I do have trouble gaining weight but since i have been folowing this diet (Past 2 - 3 months) I am now weighing the heaviest i have ever been. I still don't think im eating enough carbs which is why im thinking of 2 rice crackers with peanut butter after 5 of the 7 meals will be a great help to me.

The reason i take waxy maize with creatine after my workout though is for the greater insulin spike, I've been told it has a higher glyceamic index than glucose powder.
thanks guys

well being interested to see is ok.. but u need to know.. how else do u expect to make progress if ur just picking food and eating it with the mindset "this looks like it should be enuff"????

www.fitday.com will give u macro breakdowns of all ur food.. it has a built-in database to plug in everything u eat and itll tell u cals,pro,carbs,fat and percentages of each.. if u dont like that one google calorie counting websites and find one u do like.. guessing is the wrong approach...

there is a science to this u know

[Back In Black]

What you heard about waxy maize was incorrect. The stuff is a waste of money, but don't take my word for it, look up the studies that have been published on it. Whoever told you that just got suckered into the marketing hype created by the companies who manufactured it. After a workout it is of the utmost importance that you ingest a fast-absorbed glycogen. Waxy maize is not that.

Again, what you need is dextrose or maltodextrin or both.

I wholeheartedly disagree with the bold! Though there will be plenty of people who agree with you, no doubt.

The full diet is the most improratant part of the nutrition side. To the end that, if your diet is spot on, the need for a post workout shake is almopst irrelevant and a solid meal of lean protein and complex carbs would serve you just as well.

OP - if you cannot count/calculate calories your gains will suffer. Learn how to and you will know exactly where you can add/take away from to better reach your targets.

[BulkCity]

ok i went into fitday and figured out the calories i was consuming from this diet
Total calories: 3,400
Protien: 230g (27%)
Carbs: 370g (42%)
Fats: 120g (31%0

3,400 is way above my maintenance level, which is good, like i said my body doesnt hold onto alot of fat, I have made my best gains so far from this diet..
Suggestions or thoughts?

[Back In Black]

ok i went into fitday and figured out the calories i was consuming from this diet
Total calories: 3,400
Protien: 230g (27%)
Carbs: 370g (42%)
Fats: 120g (31%0

3,400 is way above my maintenance level, which is good, like i said my body doesnt hold onto alot of fat, I have made my best gains so far from this diet..
Suggestions or thoughts?

Well, if it ain't broke....... If you are gaining muscle and not fat, then go with it. If you want to drop bf it can be revisited by cleaning it up but it's bulk or cut.

[gbrice75]

I haven't read all of the comments, so i'm probably being redundant - but IMO, it's a horrible idea. Don't expect to see any gains other than body fat with this type of plan.

[jasc]

current diet:
Meal 1: 4 whole eggs, 2 wholegrain gulten free slices of bread, 1 bannana, 30g of mixed nuts

Meal 2: 185g of tuna, 1 apple, 1 bannana, 21g of wholegrain biscuits

Meal 3: 4 chicken tenderloins, 30g of muesli, 2 wholegrain gluten free slices of bread and 30g of almonds

Meal 4: protien shake (32g protien and 60g carbs) and 1 bannana

Meal 5: 200g of wholemea gluten free pasta, 1 average size porerhouse steak, handful of grapes

Meal 6 (Post workout): Creatine w/ waxy maize, protien shake, 1 glass of orange juice

Meal 7 (Before bed): 100g protien bar w/ carbs

The reason for gluten free bread and pasta is because i am obviously gluten intolerante..
Appreciate the help guys

I'm no expert but have gotten some great advice on here.. A couple tips to share..
1) meals should be pro/carb or pro/fat.. not pro/fat/carb
2) protein bars are mainly crap. I'm guilty of snacking on em too, but with the amounts of sugar, fat, n processed crap in there, a quality shake would be much better, not to mention casein before bed, not whey.
3) you have no whole foods post workout until breakfast the next morning. Add in some slow digesting proteins.

[gbrice75]

meals should be pro/carb or pro/fat.. not pro/fat/carb

Not really bro. I just don't go with big numbers for both macro in the same meal. i.e. I won't have a meal with 40g carbs and 30g fat... but then again I wouldn't have a meal with 30g fat anyway. Most of my meals have 10g or less of fat, regardless of having carbs or not.

[jasc]

Not really bro. I just don't go with big numbers for both macro in the same meal. i.e. I won't have a meal with 40g carbs and 30g fat... but then again I wouldn't have a meal with 30g fat anyway. Most of my meals have 10g or less of fat, regardless of having carbs or not.

Thanks for the correction.. I was under the impression that you don't supplement fats (i.e. 30g almonds) in to a meal that is already protein/carb dominant. I'm not referring to say.. Steak with a decent amt of fat n a baked potato.. I'm referring to supplmenting "unnecessary" fats in to a meal thats already 40g pro/ 40-50g carb.

If I am off base on that, thank you for the correction.

[gbrice75]

Thanks for the correction.. I was under the impression that you don't supplement fats (i.e. 30g almonds) in to a meal that is already protein/carb dominant. I'm not referring to say.. Steak with a decent amt of fat n a baked potato.. I'm referring to supplmenting "unnecessary" fats in to a meal thats already 40g pro/ 40-50g carb.

If I am off base on that, thank you for the correction.

Nope, I agree with this for the most part. No need to add fats to a meal that is high in carbs and likely already has some fat 'built in'. I actually don't supplement any fats other than fish oil. We get enough from our foods by default imo.