New member, read stickies, still looking for advice on diet. TRT @ 20.

**Savage12** · 03-06-2012, 08:05 PM

Hey guys glad to be here. Some background:

Age: 20
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 160lbs
BF: 15%
Cycle experience: Tren , pro hormones.

Now, you guys are probably wondering how the hell im 160 and took tren. Well I was in high school and very very stupid about AAS. Worst mistake I ever made in my life and it cost me my own natural test production. I am on TRT (250mg/2 weeks) forever as far as I am concerned. I am living proof no teen should ever use AAS, no matter how good their diet/training is. It WILL ruin you.

I have been training around 4 years on and off never truly gaining the muscle I desired because I wasn't dedicated. Once I started TRT a year ago, I started training again and eating a lot and I noticed how hard it was to stay lean/lean ish. I've never had a 6 pack naturally but was always pretty thin regardless. My question is, should my carbs be lower than the average bulker if I have a higher than normal BF? I know protein is a must, and I right now I am using the STS system by Ronnie R so my training is intense.

**--->>405<<---** · 03-06-2012, 09:33 PM

Double post..

**--->>405<<---** · 03-06-2012, 09:35 PM

Welcome to the forum savage.. I too am on trt

but im 37..

Sounds like u wanna get bigger but do u wanna drop bf% first? Thats wat id recommend.. Would take a couple months then u could focus on bulking..

**Savage12** · 03-07-2012, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

Welcome to the forum savage.. I too am on trt

but im 37..

Sounds like u wanna get bigger but do u wanna drop bf% first? Thats wat id recommend.. Would take a couple months then u could focus on bulking..

Well, I would much rather just try to keep my bf from going too much higher but I want to gain size before I drop bf%. Im just so damn light. I have watched Milo Sacrev's seminar videos in the stickies and he mentions it is best to keep carbs at breakfast, pre-w/o, and post w/o. Or before other physical activity. But if you are just relaxing and not doing much, then just protein is fine and avoids unwanted bf. How do you guys feel about this?

**--->>405<<---** · 03-07-2012, 06:18 PM

Personally ii would wanna be @ 12% bf before considering a bulk but were all difft

As far as carbs go ur gonna need them for bulking.. They play a big role

which is partly why i askd about u cutting ur bf% down first.. Ur tdee is 2640cals if u work out 5days per week..

Wats ur current workout schedule and cardio schedule? Have u been following any specific diet?

**SexySweetheart** · 03-07-2012, 06:29 PM

Welcome

**Savage12** · 03-07-2012, 06:32 PM

Monday: Back (deads, pullups)
Tuesday: Shoulders (overhead press, behind back shoulder press)
Wednesday: Legs (squats, front squats)
Thursday: Chest (Bench, incline bench)
Friday: Arms (close grip bench, farmers walk)

12 sets total (6 sets per excercise) to failure.

Have not been following any specific diet. I am not trying to avoid carbs, just use better timing during the day to help avoid more bf. about 300g protein, 200g carbs, 80g fat

**--->>405<<---** · 03-07-2012, 07:41 PM

Those macros equal 2 thousand seven hundred 60 cals.. Id switch it up to:

2800cals
280g pro
280g carb
62g fat

40/40/20 split..

Thats a good startn split for bulking.. U want the carbs.. Like i said which is why id cut down to 12% before bulking

**Savage12** · 03-08-2012, 01:10 AM

Thanks for the feedback! I definitely do feel better with more carbs, preferably when i eat then before activity and not when im inactive. As for nutrient timing, is it a good idea to consume more carbs at breakfast, pre w/o and post w/o? I lift at around 11-noon everyday and work at night. Noting in between so I think keeping my carbs to pre, post, and breakfast as well as during work since I move around alot (not strenuous but constantly moving) would be smart instead of when im just sitting around resting. And don't think im neglecting your advice either, if I continue to see too much bf gains I will definitely consider cutting first.