protein questions

[MajorPectorial]

1, chicken;

as chicken "breast" isn't dirt cheap can u use any part of it obviously excluding skin. I.e legs for instance?

2, beef;

as "steak" is expensive I've started buying brisket and cutting into thick steaks around one inch thick and around 5-6 inches across. To keep cost down.

3, protein. I've heard of bovine protein drinks. Where to get the cheapest but best quality taking away taste from the equation ?

I am 31 years old now. 15Stone2pounds. (96Kg). Body fat two months ago was 24 I think?. I need to double check. Mainly belly fat. Nothing on chest legs n arms. (Depressingly). But this has only just started So I'm nipping in the bud now. Used to amateur lift for 5 years from 15-21. just got back into lifting after about ten years. Into my second month( don't laugh). Go 5 times a week for atleast 9 hours in total.

Im happy to cook a load of food and eat normal meals at the start of the day, tapering out at the end. My first meal is between 8-9am. I'm happy eating every two n a half hours. I will copy n paste my diet I posted in another section. I any to get big muscle wise. Then I can cut after?. I get told So many different ways for hypertrophy it's doing my head in. Do I'm starting with staple diet to stick with. Please wait for my next post. Ty

[MajorPectorial]

6'3" tall.
96Kg.
Body fat 24%(Shh).
Workout 5 days mon-fri
between one-two hours
avg=9 hours p/w in gym
Rest between sets. <1-2 minuteS
Reps between 6-10

I need to get bigger. Pleeeeeeeeeeze help with diet. I'm only on about 2500 cals

Was lifting for 5 years solid but stopped for ten years. Only accumulation of "noticeable " fat is at the stomach region.

I don't smoke since 2 months, not drank for one month. I drink water and green tea.

8:30-9amBreakfast;
wheatabix 2bits I can do 4?. With teaspoon sugar
Protein shake one scoop.
One-two actimel Bio drink with;
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab

11-11:30am Meal two.
One tin sardines
Low fat yogurt with
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab

Alternate weeks.
12:30-1pm Meal three

Version 1
Chicken/ brown rice/broccoli/spinach combo with
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab

Version 2
Spaghetti bolognese with
fat drained beef/spinach/onion/garlic/leek/pepper/driedchilli/mushroom/carrot using white spaghetti With
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab

3:30-4Pm meal 4 same as above using version one or two with
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab

If working out at 6:30 I take my amino acids half hour before with:
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab
If working out at 8:30 I have one more of the version meals with
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab

Then post workout protein shake wait half hour then saucer sized steak from a brisket to keep cost down with mixed veg like combo used in spaghetti veg mix with
Nacv2 One tab
Super multi multivitamin one tab then bed.

Hope this helps. I've got skinny wrists n skinny ankles. I've a bit of chest from ten years ago but that's it. Triceps weak as sh*t. Biceps no much better. I'm not into injecting anything. But apart from that I don't care what I have to do to get where I'm going. I'm a family man n work full time as an abm and simply want to be upgraded. Lol.

I will do whatever it takes. And I don't give up. one year. Two year. Five year whatever. I'm 31 years old now.

Please. Some guidance in most effective way no matter what it takes. I care nothing for pain. Foul tastes. Or hard work. I get usually two hours in the gym. Atm I seem to be getting weaker not stronger. I gave creatine on the way for in workouts. To improve my stamina during workouts.

I can provide start pic. Three weeks ago. And current I haven't looked myself but seriously doubt in 2 weeks there would be any difference. I have completely changed my life and diet. So committment is no issue.

Thanks
J

[MajorPectorial]

Hope enough info there. :-)

[Back In Black]

Mate, at 24% you need to get SMALLER, not bigger.

Read this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ng-101-Cutting

Write a diet, including macro's for each meal, post it and we'll critique it.

Nearly 2 hours per workout? How long is lifting and how long is cardio?

[MajorPectorial]

I'm doing about half our power walking with around 15kg extra weight every day. Then out of the gym two hours only about 15 minutes intense cardio five times a week. I'm really open to suggestions on diet. I'm just doing that particular combination due to a bit of research, lots of questions and some deductions of my own. I dud limit ALL carbs from processed pasta. Rice. Bread. Potato but was just feeling really weak at the gym. Still do. Like a lack of energy. I've got creatine on the way to help a bit. I'm just hoping you guys could help. You guys are the true proffessionals I know nobody good enough to compete n I'm fed up with contradiction between different places.

So. I'm a Guinea pig looking for some truths and a road to success... :-)

[MajorPectorial]

Oh probably important. I've always suffered a bit with sleep. Currently take one zopiclone

[MajorPectorial]

----- to help me sleep. And have been on tramadol painkiller for my back for quite sometime but I'm hoping getting back in the gym will stop me needing these. I've cut right back on the tramadol to maybe 4 50's a day. Tried just to caps in morning but was up really early. Just forked out 3200pounds for soft mattress now think might be too soft. Lol. Nearly life story. I will work out my "macros?"

[havehotasianwife]

Welcome to the board friend! Stems a great guy, he knows what hes talking about! This might help you too with numbers, it is a spread sheet I created with the information in the nutritional resource stickies.

http://www.theanabolicinsider.com/?p=206

And again, welcome!

[MajorPectorial]

My macros atm are in a ratio below

I use the same veg for spaghetti/beef as I do rice/chicken.

Cal=420
Carb=55
prot= 40
fat=10

Almost evens out on each meal. I currently have 3 of these meals a day from 2nd meal

But meal one is three whole scrambled eggs on two small slice of whole wheat brown toast with "smart spread".

I have the multivitamin tab
and nacv2 ( anyone got info on how goes that one really is would be useful).

I take amino acids pre workout. And protein shake post workout.

I've been having one-two large steak meals with veg in Eve. The steak I cut from brisket. I've worked out now that it is my protein intake which is bad?. Any tips. I'm thinking of bulking out with extra Turkey. Less rice n pasta?. Maybe at Bacon to the mornings?

[BrownGirl]

[QUOTE=justincwade;5951298]My macros atm are in a ratio below

I use the same veg for spaghetti/beef as I do rice/chicken.

Cal=420
Carb=55
prot= 40
fat=10

Almost evens out on each meal. I currently have 3 of these meals a day from 2nd meal

But meal one is three whole scrambled eggs on two small slice of whole wheat brown toast with "smart spread".

I have the multivitamin tab
and nacv2 ( anyone got info on how goes that one really is would be useful).

I take amino acids pre workout. And protein shake post workout.

I've been having one-two large steak meals with veg in Eve. The steak I cut from brisket. I've worked out now that it is my protein intake which is bad?. Any tips. I'm thinking of bulking out with extra Turkey. Less rice n pasta?. Maybe at Bacon to the mornings?[/QUOTE]


No bacon!!! lol I'd stay away from it.

[MajorPectorial]

Brilliant thanks. Just spent 60 pounds on chicken. Turkey. Brown rice. Wholewheat pasta. Two heads of broccoli nd two large bags spinach. (I prefer it to broccoli. No, inform know why. Too much popeye as a kid maybe...)

Right. No Bacon then. I got 6 whole finest onions. Two crates of 12 eggs. I'm gunman list all the details. Then workout my meals from it nd post it here.

BTW. I think my missus believes I'm going waaay waaaaay over the top with this. She never knew me when I was at the gym 9 times a week. I think 5 times is a good cutback.


Any info on best type of protein would be good. I'm looking at sourcing items overseas now. Also. I know most amino acids come with extra vitamins n minerals with the 2:1:1 combination. Are they necessary if I'm to encapsulate?. What is absolutely necessary considering my diet.

I just want to be the absolute best I possibly can. Just for the missus and myself for health.

Any extra tips will be greatly appreciated and stem, bg etc. thank you all So much for your advice So far. Really Really is appreciated: -):-):-)

[Back In Black]

Brilliant thanks. Just spent 60 pounds on chicken. Turkey. Brown rice. Wholewheat pasta. Two heads of broccoli nd two large bags spinach. (I prefer it to broccoli. No, inform know why. Too much popeye as a kid maybe...)

Right. No Bacon then. I got 6 whole finest onions. Two crates of 12 eggs. I'm gunman list all the details. Then workout my meals from it nd post it here.

BTW. I think my missus believes I'm going waaay waaaaay over the top with this. She never knew me when I was at the gym 9 times a week. I think 5 times is a good cutback.


Any info on best type of protein would be good. I'm looking at sourcing items overseas now. Also. I know most amino acids come with extra vitamins n minerals with the 2:1:1 combination. Are they necessary if I'm to encapsulate?. What is absolutely necessary considering my diet.

I just want to be the absolute best I possibly can. Just for the missus and myself for health.

Any extra tips will be greatly appreciated and stem, bg etc. thank you all So much for your advice So far. Really Really is appreciated: -):-):-)

Mate, no offence, but more time focusing on your diet and less time writing will help. Work that out then we can look at supplements.

And wtf are you looking abroad for foods?!?!?!?!?!

[MajorPectorial]

Welcome to the board friend! Stems a great guy, he knows what hes talking about! This might help you too with numbers, it is a spread sheet I created with the information in the nutritional resource stickies.


And again, welcome!

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Mate. That spreadsheet is the bogs dollocks. Seriously if I had bloody seen that before I done it all by hand... Lol.

Now if someone made diet profiles imagine that. You have a select number of foods to choose from. When selected other cells could be filled with their attributes I.e Cal/pro/Carb/fat. Is there anything like that?. I know it's alot of code. But apart from the time itself easily done. I used to design stupidly complex hyperlinked spreadsheets. Concatenate. True. False.if etc etc.

[MajorPectorial]

Mate, no offence, but more time focusing on your diet and less time writing will help. Work that out then we can look at supplements.

And wtf are you looking abroad for foods?!?!?!?!?!

Overseas for amino acids due to cost. Not foods. And I spend more time "researching" than writing. I'm looking for advice on diet. To help me plan one.

Thanks