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    bigpapa1069 is offline New Member
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    My diet and training any help welcomed

    Ok guys and girls here goes,

    I am 18/6 so im pretty heavy but only 27% body fat on todays reading. Im 30 years old and ive been in the gym for 12 years. My weight gains cane about over a divorce, knee op amd being unable to train but i need to get my fat backside on track again!!!

    Now ive cut before but never got very lean i did drop to 15 stone.

    Ok my tdee thing is 3289 so im going for 2700 kals a day and my split is 50/30/20 as carbs dont go to good with me guys. So 50 p 30 c 20 f

    337.5 p 202 c 60 f
    The protein shake i use is optimum nutrition gold standard whey its great and full of bcaa and other goodies! So when i say shake am refering to this product.

    0630 2 slices of burgen bread, shake
    60/27.8/10
    0900 shake, 1 apple, 1 pear
    48/6/2
    1200 2 tins tuna, 1/4 red onion, light salad cream
    67.7/13/11.2
    1500 shake/pear
    48/3/1
    1800 2xchicken breast and frozen mixed veg
    50/7.3/6.7

    When im training i used a build and recover
    25/63/1.2
    On no training days i will grab some cold meat and another couple bits of fruit to compansate for this b&r drink.

    My training is 3x10 heavyish with moves like chest press shoulder press shrugs deadlofts squatts tricept extentions etc compound moves and i do 20 mins on the treadmill of interville training. Because i have a belly should i do the plank more and push ups for the moobage

    Any help and tweeks welcomed but im gonna try this for 2 weeks first as i want to lose weight and keep it off plus goong on hols on sept 10th

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    Hello mate. Firstly, there are way more than 6g carbs in an apple and a pear. You'll have at least 10g in each. Fruit is not a great choice when cutting and I'd like to see less shakes and more real sources of protein.

    Your weight is 258lbs? 18st6lbs? I'd be aiming for a max of 2500 cals per day. I like your macro split and carbs being focused mainly pre and post workout.

    Cardio is your friend. Just do it. At 27% it doesn't matter what type, just move. Lots!
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    And your build and recover has 63g carbs? If so, I suspect it is mostly sugar? Finish it and don't buy another. Real carbs before and after training, sweet pots/oats/brown rice.
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    Ok mate cheers and yeah its extreme nutrition b&r 2 scoops 63g carbs. So what are you suggesting i switch to a normal shake after training and come home and eat sweet potato etc????? And il get down to the 2500 al relook my diet here comes another two hours lol!!!!!!

    I assume tinned tuna is ok its just easy to pour water in a shaker whilst at work than drain tuna etc!!!! Cheers mate

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    Canned tuna is fine. Appreciate work gets in the way sometimes but you don't have to eat 6 times or more per day. How about breakfast, lunch, as soon as you finish work, post workout (depending what time of day you train). Just fit your macro's into 4 meals not 6. You may even be less hungry.

    Post workout I eat a real meal of brown rice, tuna and veg. I supplement that meal with 10g whey and 10g casein.
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    Training the now is mostly friday afternoon sat and sun 11ish and interville training 0630 before work mon-thur i do try to go after work but sometimes im dead on mu feet lol. I will look at what you have said mate and try get some quality foods in before and after gym seshs

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    Kick the fruit out go for brown rice, sweet potato, brown rice cakes, beans, oats etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclekid88
    Kick the fruit out go for brown rice, sweet potato, brown rice cakes, beans, oats etc
    Did you bother reading what I wrote?!?!
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    oops

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    hey big papa , I'm in scotland two and have a couple loaves of the burgen bread in the freezer. Haven't taken it out yet because I'm just unsure of the sugar levels in it. I know this isn't my thread but think its relevant here. How good a carb source are grain sources such as soya bread in comparison to the oats?

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    Burgen bread is still bread. It just has soya and linseed added. A such, there are better carb sources out there. I certainly wouldn't use it as a regular carb source and definitely not pre or post workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Did you bother reading what I wrote?!?!
    sorry man just skimmed through it before rushing out the house, my bad

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    Well its shopping day tomo i will sack the bread amd get some sweet potato and some brown rice thanks guys!!!! I still love my tinned tuna tho lol burgen bread was just for breakfast tho to give me a good morning carb boost lol

    Thanks folks mucho greatfull

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