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    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos View Post
    405.. Ever try vermicelli? AMAZINGLY clean carb source made from green beans, peas and water. I think I'm going to have this instead of oats
    Is that a complex carb.? Thats the idea behind oats, brn rice and yams. Carbs tht break down slowely and provide an energy source for longer periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Is that a complex carb.? Thats the idea behind oats, brn rice and yams. Carbs tht break down slowely and provide an energy source for longer periods.
    Yes, says the Interwebs. Yes.

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    What's a better carb for Dieting. I'm assuming high GI because it'll stop the bodies ability to metabolize fat for less time. But on the other hand if I'm not in a huge hurry to shred wouldn't Low GI be better because I'm getting so little carbs (60/20/20) so it'll give me a better stream of fuel throughout the morning ?

    I say morning because all mu carbs are split in 2 meals. Breakfast and PWO. which I train in between those two meals.

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    Low GI. As much as possible. Sometimes I'll have a white bagel or white potato. If its a white something against its whole grain equivalent I wouldn't sweat it too much. The whole grain will give you more fibre though.

    If by simple you mean something like jelly beans (and I don't think you do mean that) then steer well clear!
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    This is what I go by...
    I do apologize for its length

    Bare in mine 0-55 considered low GI. 56+ high GI
    Pure glucose being 100.

    Common Food Listing

    Food Glycemic Index

    Breads

    Bagel, white 103
    Hamburger bun 87
    Melba toast 100
    Oat bran bread 68
    Rye kernel bread 66
    Pumpernickel 71
    Rye flour bread 92
    Linseed rye bread 78
    Wheat bread, white 100
    Wheat bread, high fibre 97
    Wheat bread, gluten-free 129
    Wheat bread, wholewheat 99
    Wholewheat snack breads 105
    Pita, white 82
    Mixed grain bread 64

    Breakfast cereals

    All-bran 60
    All-bran with raisins 74
    Cocoapops 110
    Cornflakes 119
    Cream of wheat 100
    Muesli 80
    Oat bran 78
    Oatmeal 87
    Puffed wheat 105
    Rice bran 27
    Rice crispies 117
    Shredded wheat 99
    Special K 77

    Cereal grains

    Barley, pearled 36
    Barley, cracked 72
    Barley, rolled 94
    Bulgur wheat 68
    Couscous 93
    Maize meal 97
    Millet 101
    Sweet corn 78
    Rice, white 81
    Rice, Basmati 83
    Rice, brown 79
    Rice, instant, boiled for 6 min. 128
    Rice, instant, boiled for 1 min. 65
    Rice, parboiled 68
    Rice, wild 81
    Rye kernels 48
    Tapioca boiled with milk 115


    Cakes and biscuits

    Butter biscuits 79
    Cake, angel food 95
    Cake, banana loaf 67
    Cake, sponge 66
    Coffee cookies 113
    Crispbead 116
    Croissant 96
    Crumpet 98
    Digestive biscuits 84
    Doughnut 108
    Graham crackers 106
    Maizena cookies 95
    Muffins 88
    Oat cookies 79
    Pastry 84
    Pizza base with cheese 86
    Rice cakes 117
    Rye crispbread 93
    Shortbread 91
    Waffle 109
    Water biscuits 102
    Wheat crackers 96

    Drinks

    Cold drinks, sweetened 97
    Cordials 94
    Gatorade (energy drinks) 136

    Fruit and Fruit Juices

    Apple 52
    Apple juice 58
    Apricots, fresh 82
    Apricots, canned in syrup 91
    Apricots, dried 44
    Banana 76
    Cherries 32
    Fruit ****tail 79
    Grapefruit 36
    Grapefruit juice, unsweetened 69
    Grapes 62
    Kiwi fruit 75
    Mango 80
    Orange 62
    Orange juice 74
    Pawpaw 83
    Peach, raw 40
    Peach, canned 79
    Pear, raw 51
    Pear, canned 63
    Pineapple, raw 94
    Pineapple juice 66
    Plum 34
    Raisins 91
    Spanspek 93
    Sultanas 80
    Watermelon 103

    Legumes

    Baked beans, canned 69
    Beans, dry 40
    Broad beans 113
    Butter beans 44
    Chickpeas 47
    Chickpeas, canned 60
    Kidney beans 42
    Kidney beans, canned 74
    Lentils 41
    Lentils, green, canned 74
    Lima beans, frozen 46
    Soya beans 25
    Soya milk 43
    Split peas, boiled 45

    Milk and dairy products

    Ice cream 87
    Ice cream, low-fat 71
    Milk, whole 39
    Milk, skim 46
    Milk, chocolate 49
    Milk, chocolate (artificial) 34
    Custard 61
    Yoghurt, low-fat, fruit, sweetened with sugar 47
    Yogurt, low-fat, artificially sweetened 20
    Yoghurt, plain 51

    Pasta

    Fettucine 46
    Gnocchi 95
    Instant noodles 67
    Macaroni 64
    Macaroni and cheese 92
    Ravioli, meat filling 56
    Spaghetti, protein-enriched 38
    Spaghetti, white 59
    Spaghetti, durum 78
    Spaghetti, wholewheat 53
    Vermicelli 50

    Snacks and sweets

    Jelly beans 114
    Lifesavers 100
    Chocolate 70
    Chocolate bars 91
    Energy bars 81
    Maize snacks 105
    Muesli bars 87
    Popcorn 79
    Potato chips 77
    Peanuts 21
    Pretzels 116

    Soups

    Bean soup 92
    Green pea soup, canned 94
    Lentil soup, canned 63
    Split pea soup, homemade 86
    Tomato soup 54

    Sugars

    Honey 104
    Fructose 32
    Glucose powder 138
    Glucose tablets 146
    Maltose 150
    Sucrose (table sugar) 92
    Lactose 65
    High-fructose corn sugar 89
    Maltodextrin 107

    Vegetables

    Beetroot 91
    Carrots 101
    Parsnips 139
    Peas, dried 32
    Peas, green 68
    Potato, instant mash 118
    Potato, baked 121
    Potato, new 81
    Potato, boiled 80
    Potato, boiled, mashed 104
    Potato, microwaved 117
    Potato chips, deep-fried 107
    Pumpkin 107
    Sweet corn 78
    Sweet potato 77

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    Can I suggest you google 'glycemic load' for some further research. You'll be combining your carbs with protein every time (I hope) so its much more valid than the index alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM
    Can I suggest you google 'glycemic load' for some further research. You'll be combining your carbs with protein every time (I hope) so its much more valid than the index alone.
    I will! I'm heading in for 2 12 hour night shifts starting tonight so.. Throw some google searches out for me for good reading material tonight!!

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    So I woke up fasted cardio for 35 minutes or so. Couldn't handle the hunger so I had to jump off and onto meal#1 chicken, beans, vernecelli or whatever it's called. Hit the gym for some legs.

    Ham string curls
    Standing ham string curls
    Stuff legged deadliest
    Retarded amount of leg extensions
    Hack squats supersetted with sissy's

    Couldn't handle anymore so I called it there. The wheels are still getting used to being spun.

    Had all meals at appropriate times. Now I'm at work over night. Sucks but oh well.

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    While doing your major cut I would stick to the big 3 only (I have no knowledge about that other stuff you are eating..must be a Cunook thing )

    In this oder
    Oats
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    Sweet potatoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos View Post
    So I woke up fasted cardio for 35 minutes or so. Couldn't handle the hunger so I had to jump off and onto meal#1 chicken, beans, vernecelli or whatever it's called. Hit the gym for some legs.

    Ham string curls
    Standing ham string curls
    Stuff legged deadliest
    Retarded amount of leg extensions
    Hack squats supersetted with sissy's

    Couldn't handle anymore so I called it there. The wheels are still getting used to being spun.

    Had all meals at appropriate times. Now I'm at work over night. Sucks but oh well.
    By the way... love the new AVI! You are going to be a frkn monste man...I see a competition in your future!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    While doing your major cut I would stick to the big 3 only (I have no knowledge about that other stuff you are eating..must be a Cunook thing )

    In this oder
    Oats
    Brn Rice
    Sweet potatoes
    I will. I just needed something quick and easy and tasty that wasn't oats.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    By the way... love the new AVI! You are going to be a frkn monste man...I see a competition in your future!!!
    Thanks! 2015 is my new goal. Let's hope all you guys help me there! If I ever place 1st in any comp in my life and they ask me any question I'll say "First off im dedicating this to the sick bastards online who got me where I am today"


    Dreams never hurt anyone eh? Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos View Post
    I will. I just needed something quick and easy and tasty that wasn't oats.




    Thanks! 2015 is my new goal. Let's hope all you guys help me there! If I ever place 1st in any comp in my life and they ask me any question I'll say "First off im dedicating this to the sick bastards online who got me where I am today"


    Dreams never hurt anyone eh? Hahaha
    Hey! I resemble that remark

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    Alright so I'm going to suck it up and post my pictures from now on.. Don't hate on me.

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    See how my chest is pchay? I know it's covered in million lbs of fat but it doesn't show at all.

    But whatever.. I figured if I'm going to post them eventually why not post them now... you guys have been nothing but good too me!

    A good man told me

    'it's not about where you start, it's the journey you go on and the end point that matters'



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    Mate, congrats on having the balls to post that. Plenty of people here talk the talk but fail to put up!

    You have lots of work to do but man, I reckon your chest will be beastly once you strip that covering off. I'd have you closer to 30% than 25% but that's only 1 angle.

    It's gonna be one hell of a journey for you my man. Just gonna wait and see how many people suggest a wax and a tan
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM
    Mate, congrats on having the balls to post that. Plenty of people here talk the talk but fail to put up!

    You have lots of work to do but man, I reckon your chest will be beastly once you strip that covering off. I'd have you closer to 30% than 25% but that's only 1 angle.

    It's gonna be one hell of a journey for you my man. Just gonna wait and see how many people suggest a wax and a tan
    Haha yeah why not right. Everyone knows I'm fat... I'm 283-288 lbs. So what's to hide. Atleast I'm putting that effort in right !!

    And yeah I'm still looking for somewhere that does hydrostatic..

    Wax and tan? I tan VERY easily so I don't waste my time in a bed all year. And ... You'll all have to fight my gf for me to wax. And she's a fiesty one.

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    So I'm terrible at updating.

    I'm going to take another test regarding BF% tomorrow and see what it says. I'll add and divide and get the general results. Best I can do without HS being available. Then re-think my diet. Seems I'm going absolutely nowhere even with all the cardio and training.

    Numbers aren't changing at all but the guy in the mirror is but that could be me playing Jedi mind tricks on myself. FVCKING HALP

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    405 you've been missing. My motivation is diminishing everyday you don't coach me.

    My imminent failure is on you.

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    Hang in there Gre.

    1. Stay consistent with training
    2. Stay consistant with diet
    3. Keep cheats to a minimum (A couple of cheats can burn a weeks hard work, just not worth it)
    4. Take one day at a time-- Plan your meals and training and stick to it, the days become weeks, weeks months, well you get it.

    I started at 282lbs and am down to 204lbs. You can do it man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Mate, congrats on having the balls to post that. Plenty of people here talk the talk but fail to put up!

    ^^ agree 100%. ur not here to impress people. ur here to take advantage of the knowledge and get leaner and imrove ur physique. if someone doesnt like it i say FVK EM!

    You have lots of work to do but man, I reckon your chest will be beastly once you strip that covering off. I'd have you closer to 30% than 25% but that's only 1 angle.

    It's gonna be one hell of a journey for you my man. Just gonna wait and see how many people suggest a wax and a tan
    go get a wax and a tan man! (BTW i got the same wax and tan thing from my man stem and everyone else.)

    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos View Post
    405 you've been missing. My motivation is diminishing everyday you don't coach me.

    My imminent failure is on you.
    sorry buddy i had some stuff to do today not very often that occurs as u will find when u stick aound. (notice i didnt say "if")

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
    go get a wax and a tan man! (BTW i got the same wax and tan thing from my man stem and everyone else.)
    Stem waxed you? hoooweeee it's gettin hot in here

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    So I didn't make it to the gym today. 2 days in a row.. I hate that. But after getting off a terrible nightshift, only getting to bed at 7am, and waking up with that pain in my jaw again I rationalized and said **** it... I'll give my fresh ink another day to heal before I start opening my sweat glands and stretching it in awkward movements. Oh well..

    So bright and early tomorrow I'm heading in to do chest, calves, an abs. Skipping fasted cardio because as soon as I'm done I'm heading out of town to climb a mountain ! Two paths you can take.. Easy or rugged. I'm taking the hard way, should be interesting and good cardio.

    And I must have been retaining a lot of water.. I hopped on the scale for fun and its 10:30pm, I just ate and all that and I just weighed in at 283. So tomorrow my weight should be great!! Good results are coming!!

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    Ok so.. I didn't get to gym again today but I spent 6 hours hiking up and coming down a mountain. I am SPENT. It offers too different routes, one is easy and the other is hard. We took the hard route both ways. OMFG hardest thing I've ever done.

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    You see that tiny bit of Rock at the bottom of the screen? Yeah. That's what I was standing on. Look top left.. See those ITSY BITSY TINY TREES. This is half way. So... I was ****ing high.
    820 meters.. Highest elevation in this whole section of the country. CONQUERED.

    I know this is my weightloss thread but whatever.. Was some boss ass cardio..

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    sounds fun! now

    get in the weight room dammit!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
    sounds fun! now

    get in the weight room dammit!!
    Ugh... Will only be able to return to the weight room MONDAY... Have another tattoo session tomorrow, then go into work Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. So I can only go Monday night.

    IM SORRY... Everyone has these set backs though. It'll give my CNS a damned good break. I feel like shit as it is.. Can't believe this week turned out so perfectly damned horrid. Ah well. I'm doing to 280lbs btw. Yeehoo.

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    405 got lost in the steriod forum again????

    SteM never told me to get a wax and tan!

    Posting pics is one of those necessary evils NOW...later tho...could be happiness if you are like bikerAL = "steady eddie"

    just curious - do u work extra long hours that u can't squeeze in the weight room on your work days?....like firefighters that do these crazy long shifts...and then get a few days off?

    I like that u have a goal to compete and i luv setting goals for myself, but lately have realized the importance of monthly shorter term goals.....and rewards...like awesome platform heels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Can I suggest you google 'glycemic load' for some further research. You'll be combining your carbs with protein every time (I hope) so its much more valid than the index alone.
    so......is this the idea?

    protein + fat is gtg
    protein + complex carb is gtg
    protein + simple carb (jelly beans) is
    carb + fat is

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    405 got lost in the steriod forum again????

    SteM never told me to get a wax and tan!

    Posting pics is one of those necessary evils NOW...later tho...could be happiness if you are like bikerAL = "steady eddie"

    just curious - do u work extra long hours that u can't squeeze in the weight room on your work days?....like firefighters that do these crazy long shifts...and then get a few days off?

    I like that u have a goal to compete and i luv setting goals for myself, but lately have realized the importance of monthly shorter term goals.....and rewards...like awesome platform heels!
    Gmos in platforms??? I want to see that pic

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos View Post
    Alright so I'm going to suck it up and post my pictures from now on.. Don't hate on me.

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    See how my chest is pchay? I know it's covered in million lbs of fat but it doesn't show at all.

    But whatever.. I figured if I'm going to post them eventually why not post them now... you guys have been nothing but good too me!

    A good man told me

    'it's not about where you start, it's the journey you go on and the end point that matters'



    Thanks!
    Can you teach the bear to ride a bike lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

    so......is this the idea?

    protein + fat is gtg
    protein + complex carb is gtg
    protein + simple carb (jelly beans) is
    carb + fat is
    As a general rule of dieting, yes. But the glycemic load refers to the glycemic index of a food changing when you combine it with another good. Say a white bagel has a GI of 100, well, that changes/reduces when you eat it with, say, a chicken breast. Doesn't make it ok to eat unrefined carbs all the time but once in a while is ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Gmos in platforms??? I want to see that pic
    Ou baby baby

    The more you ask the better the chance

    Hahahahahahaha... No

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    I'm sticking on the right eating diet.. Gaining weight. I might just give up and GIVE MYSELF LYPO WITH A FORK AND VACCUUM.

    ****. I'm not handling this 'forced days out of the gym' thing very well. I feel massively fat and gross and like I'm instantly losing all my muscle.

    People... This is going to be more of a challenge than you expected. You're going to have to pipe up and suggest a new tactic because my weight and measurements aren't budging. And I'm NOT cheating... This is horseshit. I'm so negative right now.

    Such a piss off web you spend $100's on groceries and hours cooking and prepping and get up everyday to do cardio and do OT throughout the day to have NO progress...

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    What's your weight this morning?

    How many cardio sessions in the last week?

    How many weights sessions in the last week?

    Are you weighing your food cooked or raw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM
    What's your weight this morning?

    How many cardio sessions in the last week?

    How many weights sessions in the last week?

    Are you weighing your food cooked or raw?
    I didn't weigh myself this morning. Late getting up to get to work.

    I did I think 8 cardio sessions this week. Between morning, day, and climbing that FVCKING mountain.

    And weight sessions wouldn't be much. Between tattoo, and work crossing over gym closing times I've been screwed. So I'm not sure 1 or 2. Usually 5-6 on the dot never miss a beat.

    I weigh me foods cooked.

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    Mate, it's imperative that you weigh your foods uncooked. 4oz of chicken cooked may have started life at 6oz but it may have started at 5iz. Same applies to everything you cook. Weigh first and use those macro's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM
    Mate, it's imperative that you weigh your foods uncooked. 4oz of chicken cooked may have started life at 6oz but it may have started at 5iz. Same applies to everything you cook. Weigh first and use those macro's.
    Shall do.

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    Ok.. So
    290x.3=87
    290-87=203
    203x15=3045
    3045-500=2545
    60/20/20

    Goal:
    381g protein
    127g carb
    57g fat
    I will give or take this due to unknown BF cuz ima fatty.
    So here's what I have

    2472 calls I believe.

    What do you all think?

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    Nobody? ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Gmos in platforms??? I want to see that pic
    i would rather see a guy with hairy legs in a nice pumps than a gal with hairy legs in pumps....just sayin

    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos View Post
    Ou baby baby

    The more you ask the better the chance

    Hahahahahahaha... No
    u can make a little bet between u and lunk1...if lunk1 wins, u wear the pump! just a thought. hahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    As a general rule of dieting, yes. But the glycemic load refers to the glycemic index of a food changing when you combine it with another good. Say a white bagel has a GI of 100, well, that changes/reduces when you eat it with, say, a chicken breast. Doesn't make it ok to eat unrefined carbs all the time but once in a while is ok.
    thanks for clarification. i thought i found a loop hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreMos
    Ok.. So
    290x.3=87
    290-87=203
    203x15=3045
    3045-500=2545
    60/20/20

    Goal:
    381g protein
    127g carb
    57g fat
    I will give or take this due to unknown BF cuz ima fatty.
    So here's what I have

    2472 calls I believe.

    What do you all think?

    <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=126673"/>
    Anybody!?!?!?

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