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    "The new High Intensity Training Book"


    It's not a bad read. My back is feeling back to normal now, thank god. I have my bloodtest in the morning.

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    Just had my blood taken. I should get the results on Friday. They had several bullet points of things to check for. This was what was displayed on the screen on my file. I assume this is everything I needed to get checked!

    * Full Blood Count
    * Blood Sugar Levels
    * Thyroid Function
    * Erectile Disfunction
    * Liver Enzyme Levels

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    i'll have to give it a read! never really boavd with the cardio theory stuff.

    oh well, fingers crossed for ya buddy! hope all's well than ends well!

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    Ellington Darden - is the author of that book. It's a good read. It's certainly made me more knowledgable about general training to failure. I don't think I could do the HIT regime it suggests. But I can apply the HIT principles, now I understand them, to the Dorian Yates workouts and I then have a better understanding of my workout. Which can only be a good thing!!

    Yea me too, I also had a full lung exam today. I was just diagnosed with Asthma and given an inhaler! /Doh/

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    ive been following dorain yates's training when ive had chance for the last couple of weeks. only get 2 days out of 7 to really puch myself in the gym with the diet im doing. you can really feel the strain in the mucles with the higher intensity stuff! i was doing 1 arm tricep pull downs and my legs were shaking madly! was hard not to laugh!!

    bad news on the asthma!! a couple of my mates have asthma and it doesnt really affect them too much. apart from the odd puffer break!! lol

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    Yea I tried my best to do a HIT workout today like Ellington Darden suggested, 8 different exercises, 1 set per exercise to complete failure. On the 8th and final exercise I was gased. I laid on the floor for 10mins trying to breath. My total workout time was 22mins. I felt shaky and my heartrate was through the roof. Without a training partner though its impossible to reach complete failure.

    Well I have survived this long without an inhaler. I've been doing my cardio, so I don't suffer. Doctor just said that my stats had improved 10% by using the inhaler, so to keep using it when I do exercise. I figure 10% improvement anywhere has to be a good thing!

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    Week 2: (Day 46)

    Last week I injured my back deadlifting, so I took the rest of the week out. I kept to my diet, but was unable to even do cardio, so I've felt a little shit these last few days!
    Dropped another 2lbs this week though, even after that, so thats good news! Im bored of my current training method, I havent been seeing the gains in strength that I would like, and I have been using the same training method for a few weeks before this log, I have decided to shake it up a little. I read the Carb Back Loading book this week, if you havent checked this out yet, it has some interesting ideas about dieting. I also read 'The New High Intensity Training' by Ellington Darden, who if you dont know, worked with Arthur Jones (Nautilus) and MikeMentzer back in the day. Its interesting and has sparked a new motivation to go back at it HARD! With another little boost from Marcus300's thread with the Dorian Yates 'Blood&Guts' - Im ready to shoot back at it!

    Visually I feel that my chest is bigger, although it measured the same this week, so thats probably due to some fat loss in the mid-chest area and on my ribcage/belly. I had several people I havent seen in a while in shock this weekend when they spotted me at work, they couldnt believe how much better I looked. So this was a real nice confidence boost!




    Weight: 240lbs [2lbs lost]
    Stomach BF%: 12mm. [2mm reduction, it is a little hard to tell with these crappy calipers]

    Chest: 46" +2/8
    Waist: 42" +2/8
    Arms: 17"
    Thigh: 27" +2/8

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    Post a link to your other gear cutting thread bro.

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    Here we are buddy! http://forums.steroid .com/showthread.php?517907-Krugerr-s-Experimental-Cut&highlight=#.UKzMVodLPGA

    I woulda put links in my signature... but y'know, I'm not a staff member!
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    2lbs lost and out of action for best part of a week. good results man! definite progree in the pics!

    p.s, i think you look more like robin

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    Thanks buddy!

    I think I look more like BANE than gay robin... He was such a shut character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    Everyday is a school day - I havent heard that in a long time. It was one of my favourite sayings when I was in the Royal Navy lol. I cant seem to notice a difference when I look in the mirror or the pictures, but other people are telling me I'm slimmer, the scales tell me, and my trousers are definitely telling me!

    Bloodwork is scheduled for next tuesday. I'll have the results for the week after. My libido is starting to pick back up again, so maybe whatever it was is self rectified, but my other symptoms are still kinda lurking, so we shall see, maybe its in my head, maybe I'm running on low Test!
    If you restrict your calories too much for too long your body will shutdown on you including testosterone . So make sure as you cut down every 3 or 4 day's replenish your glycogen stores just to make sure your body doesn't go into starvation mode. Testosterone is also produced by cholesteral so you need to keep your fats at minimum 23% or so if cutting natty. Get some eggs in and eat a steak

    Keep up the good work. You can see your abs now! I knew there were under there.

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    Thanks bp2000 - I tend to eat 30 whole eggs a week, and my fats are around 65-70g a day. I'm referring every 7-10 days as a general rule of thumb. But I'm using my bodies urges/cravings as a guide. If I feel I need a refeed after 5 days, so be it etc.
    The first month was very strict. Now I know what a healthier diet looks like, I'm able to judge how my body is feeling much better, and adjust daily as I feel. I'm still dropping 2lbs a week so it's working. In sticking to the IF, but on cheat days I'll drop it and eat regardless of time. I felt like this gives me more opportunity to get those goodies in!!

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    Doctor gave me the Testosterone results today. Unfortunately because it isnt a private clinic, he wouldnt give me the full results. So I am not really sure if this is any use to you guys at all. He told me it was quite low, he's booked me another bloodtest in December. He was also talking about the possible use of Testosterone Gels. Ive posted this up in the Bloodwork section for proper feedback, I just felt it had a place in this thread too. Could it be as BP2000 said, my diet has restricted my Test levels?

    Testosterone - 7.8 nmol/L (normal range is 10-25)
    Free Testosterone - 208 ng/dl (Normal range 300-950)

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    That's lower than mine and I'm 41 and just started TRT.

    Did he give you thyroid, prostate, E2 results? If they didn't do them or you can't get them you're gonna need to visit a TRT clinic and get a full panel done!
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    You've done 3 cycles of AAS previous havent you? Could you have suppressed your natural test through this?

    I wouldn't of thought your diet could have lowered ya test that low, as you said you've done refeeds fairly often and kept fats medium range. (not that I know for fact, just assuming really)

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    You've done 3 cycles of AAS previous havent you? Could you have suppressed your natural test through this?

    I wouldn't of thought your diet could have lowered ya test that low, as you said you've done refeeds fairly often and kept fats medium range. (not that I know for fact, just assuming really)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    That's lower than mine and I'm 41 and just started TRT.

    Did he give you thyroid, prostate, E2 results? If they didn't do them or you can't get them you're gonna need to visit a TRT clinic and get a full panel done!
    He has them, but I didnt get to see the results, I could try contacting him for them. See if I can just get a nurse to tell me over the phone. Its pretty damn low though for a 23 year old. Im 24 in Feb!


    Quote Originally Posted by digsy1983 View Post
    You've done 3 cycles of AAS previous havent you? Could you have suppressed your natural test through this?

    I wouldn't of thought your diet could have lowered ya test that low, as you said you've done refeeds fairly often and kept fats medium range. (not that I know for fact, just assuming really)
    I have done two courses before, and yes, i ****ed up PCT on those because my 'supplier' at the time was certain that HCG was a sufficient PCT protocol... I wish I had done my bloody research before hand. At the time he was a close friend, so when he told me how to do it, I belived what he was telling me. Foolish me.

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    Mate, get those figures and get in the TRT forum and see if a restart is an option.

    And please mothball your next planned cycle. tRT is no easy choice and is for life and unlikely you will get it done to perky on the NHS.
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    Just called them, the nurse wouldnt tell me specific values over the phone, but says she'll send the whole thing to me in a letter. The TRT guys cant really help me without a full blood panel? I cant afford one of those privately,

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    You can ask but I suspect they'll need your estrogen value at least.
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    Righto, thanks buddy!

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    sorry bout the news pal! your in the right forum tho to get it sorted tho!!

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    Yep, just spotted a great post in my bloodwork from HRTstudent.

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    Week 3: (day 53)

    Back in the gym in full swing, been reading a lot on HIT workouts. Ellington Darden and Mike Mentzer books. Very interesting concepts and ideas. I've started a logbook to record my progress with strength. I've been applying so e concepts to the Dorian Yates workouts. Weight was up by 1lb yesterday. But the instructor told me a bunch of students were ****ing around on it the other day, so it might be broken. I'm going to invest in an electronic scale for home. Cardio is going well still, diet still on track.

    I'll post pictures, stats etc later as Im currently at University!

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    Week 4: (Day 63)

    Sorry for my lack of activity this last week or so - I had a little problem with the Mrs. Spent last week in the doghouse, I have had to be on my best behaviour this week, so no gym time and I have been cooking/cleaning like a goddess. Diet has been in check though. Im unsure of my weight this week, I think I have dropped another lb or so, jeans are becomming ridiculously loose now! I had a large chunk of my tattoo done yesterday.


    Weight: 240lbs
    Stomach BF%: 12mm.

    Chest: 46" +2/8
    Waist: 42" +2/8
    Arms: 17"
    Thigh: 27" +2/8

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    Your absence has been noted. 50 push up and 50 star jumps for your penance. Haha

    This bodybuilding lark would be alot easier if life didn't keep getting in the way.

    Check out stems new title. We may have to call him lord from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsy1983 View Post
    Your absence has been noted. 50 push up and 50 star jumps for your penance. Haha

    This bodybuilding lark would be alot easier if life didn't keep getting in the way.

    Check out stems new title. We may have to call him lord from now.
    For "life" read women! Hope you haven't been a VERY naughty boy Krugerr?!

    Lord? Funnily enough i used to work with a bunch of Geordies who used to call me that in view of my apparent 'posh' ( non Geordie) north east accent!!!!

    Krugerr, weight loss looks like it is continuing and that looks like its going to be a beastly tattoo. I'm expecting close ups as it progresses too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsy1983
    Your absence has been noted. 50 push up and 50 star jumps for your penance. Haha

    This bodybuilding lark would be alot easier if life didn't keep getting in the way.

    Check out stems new title. We may have to call him lord from now.
    Yessir! Pressups and star jumps complete!
    I noticed Master SteMs new title!

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    For "life" read women! Hope you haven't been a VERY naughty boy Krugerr?!

    Lord? Funnily enough i used to work with a bunch of Geordies who used to call me that in view of my apparent 'posh' ( non Geordie) north east accent!!!!

    Krugerr, weight loss looks like it is continuing and that looks like its going to be a beastly tattoo. I'm expecting close ups as it progresses too!
    I wasn't /THAT/ bad... I just said something foolish whilst going down on her. I won't be doing that again! Lol!
    I forget you're a funny northerner SteM, I can't stand the Geordie accent, unless its on a filthy slutty girl!

    Thanks, weightless feels good - I've posted some pics in the Tattoo thread. I'll post up more during my next sitting.
    Yesterday was a 7 hour sitting!

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    Week 5: (Day 67)

    Managed only 1 gym session this week, been busy as hell with my last university reports before xmas. Todays gym has had to be cancelled as I have to go to the police station... some prick is trying to get me charged with assault. Diet is still going well, looked at myself in the mirror after my shower earlier and really noticed a difference. My jumper for work looked like it was a size too big on saturday... I only just bought the bastard thing! Oh well, back shopping after xmas for smaller clothes!


    Weight: 238lbs (2lb loss)
    Stomach BF%: 12mm.

    Chest: 46" +2/8
    Waist: 42" +2/8
    Arms: 17"
    Thigh: 27" +2/8

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    Don't worry about the clothes man, you will want to add muscle again and will fit them again

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    Cheers buddy, I hadn't thought of that!

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    comin on man! keep it up.

    is lado a prick for going to the police after u actually assulted him, or a prick for falsely accusing you?? eitherway, you're a big meanie

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsy1983
    comin on man! keep it up.

    is lado a prick for going to the police after u actually assulted him, or a prick for falsely accusing you?? eitherway, you're a big meanie
    Thanks Digsy. I'm still getting compliments, and this diet doesn't feel like a diet anymore. It's my lifestyle. I only eat midday-8pm. With the occasional exception where required.

    Well having viewed the CCTV, it's a bullshit claim. I thought it was a different incident. Turns out its just done guy I restrained outside the club. No biggie, the CCTV shows him being a dick and me not using excessive force.

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    Dropping in to see how well you r doing! Keep it on!!!

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    Thanks GGR!

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    So are you a bouncer? Or just an extremely helpful drunk?? Lol

    I know what ya mean about the diet becoming a lifestyle. I still get sarkie comments from the guys at work about some of my food choices, but nothing like ignorance to flavour a healthy meal!

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    Guys, I'm glad it's now part of your lifestyle. It makes the long haul so much easier when you see it that way.

    Personally, I've had a white carb, sugar and fat fest since my op 2 weeks ago. Less than 5lbs gained though. It's too easy to fall off the wagon at times and when you do, just flick through a few threads on here and you feel even more guilty!

    Krugerr, did you find that shop with the macaroni cheese I mentioned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsy1983
    So are you a bouncer? Or just an extremely helpful drunk?? Lol
    I'm a bouncer! Fvcking love my job

    Quote Originally Posted by SteM
    Guys, I'm glad it's now part of your lifestyle. It makes the long haul so much easier when you see it that way.

    Personally, I've had a white carb, sugar and fat fest since my op 2 weeks ago. Less than 5lbs gained though. It's too easy to fall off the wagon at times and when you do, just flick through a few threads on here and you feel even more guilty!

    Krugerr, did you find that shop with the macaroni cheese I mentioned?
    I never got around to looking for it SteM. It's on my list of foods to acquire! The diets transition from a 'diet' to a 'lifestyle' was subtle. I'm not even sure when it happened. I just noticed this week that I don't have to think about it, or apply effort. The restraints of the 'diet' are just something I automatically do now. Which makes me happy. Previous diets have been extreme effort and I get bored I'd them before I achieve the goals!

    How is your recovery going? I hope well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post

    How is your recovery going? I hope well!
    I'm not very good at sitting round doing nothing so it's been a tough 2 weeks and I know I've done too much even doing the housework. Did some low intensity cardio sat on a bike for 30 mins today, first time since the op. Won't lift for at least another 2 weeks. And my attractive surgical compression vest that I have to wear 24/7 means I am sleeping badly. Other than that, it's all good!!!

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