Cut first or bulk first?

[(Cock-Diesel)]

I'm 5' 11 180lbs and about 19-20% body fat. I've never been big on diet and always just ate whatever I wanted too. Well I'm done and looking for something other than being skinny fat. Should I cut down to a lower bf percentage and then go on a bulking diet while staying under 15% during my bulk or should I just jump into a bulk now and cut it all down later?

[MickeyKnox]

welcome.

i think you should diet properly and continue in the gym until youre at least 15% before you consider aas use.

[(Cock-Diesel)]

Yeah I don't plan on touching any AAS for a couple years. I'm only 24 and no where near maxing out my genetic potential. I guess I'm just asking what your opinion is on bulking up while at a high bf percentage?

[MickeyKnox]

good call brother. ask all the q's you want but be smart and read, read, read, and then read some more.

[Awesome_Archy]

it's 100% your call. Figure out what you want out of your physique and start working towards it.

[(Cock-Diesel)]

Yeah I've been following all these logs for a while now. Just decided to make a profile. To be honest I cannot wait to use AAS but I'm not going to be stupid about it. I understand my diet is number one that's why I started a thread in this section.

[(Cock-Diesel)]

What's the best way to trim belly fat without thermogenics? I've read that Fish Oil and green tea extract will do the track. Anything else that you know of?

[MickeyKnox]

determine your tdee, initiate caloric deficit, eat clean, and exercise. it really is that simple.

[pasha]

whats up bro, sense you are already at 19, 20 BF% i would get lean first... high reps with weights.. and to lose that fat faster run on empty stomach first thing in the morning..

[(Cock-Diesel)]

Thanks for all the info guys I really appreciate it. And I'm in the Military so cardio first thing in the morning is a must. Which might suck later on when I actually do go through a bulking phase. I'm forced to run 5 days a week first thing in the morning.

[--->>405<<---]

hey cock at 20%bf u should definitely be cutting.

read sticky:

dieting 101: cutting

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g#.UGGlpI2PW6M

[jimmyinkedup]

As stated - cut.
In the future always cut first...it primes your body for the bulk. Makes a big difference.

[gbrice75]

Haven't even looked at the other replies, so i'm sure i'm being redundant - but without question, cut. In fact, drop the word bulk from your vocabulary.

[(Cock-Diesel)]

Very helpful information guys thanks alot.