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09-27-2012, 05:24 PM #1
retaining gains..5 years of cycling very little overall progress
Posted in the steroid section they sent me here..im losing all my gains post cycle even with proper pct protocols..
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5ft 8
70kg
8% bf
Very lean
Diet currently post cycle
1st meal oats and fruit 4 egg whites and protein shake.
2nd meal mixed rice salad with two cans of tuna.
3rd meal grilled chicken fillet on rice and bean sprouts.
4th meal irish stew (beef/veg mix) some fruit
5th meal lentil soup with tuna mixed in and a protein shake
Please dont hold back on me i need a good bollocking to get me away from what i think is proper nutrition!!
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09-27-2012, 05:30 PM #2New Member
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This is the truth:
It doesn't matter WHAT you eat. The only things that matter are:
1. Your caloric intake VS your caloric need.
2. Your energy macros
That's it. Your posted diet doesn't tell us anything Sorry
To keep most of your gains post cycle you need to be on a caloric surplus of 500-1000 calories every day (depending on how heavy your cycle was and hos shut down you are) with the right macros. Get a kitchen scale, figure out your caloric need and get your caloric surplus and do it fast, time is ticking!!Last edited by Janejja; 09-27-2012 at 05:35 PM.
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09-27-2012, 05:35 PM #3
Well i have no idea how to answer your question..i am very lean crazy high metabolism always had 6pack showing etc etc i train 4 times a week for 1 hour intensely. I can eat more food comfortably but i choose not to..this is what i am asking do i eat more and of what?
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09-27-2012, 05:38 PM #4
I will do that thanks for your advice
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09-27-2012, 05:40 PM #5
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09-28-2012, 01:52 AM #6
Jonnyvegas i just want to know what to add to my diet to help retain gains, i understand the previous posters advice but i feel there was little in the way of helping me as they didnt mention any foods to add or leave out..
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09-28-2012, 02:52 AM #7New Member
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09-28-2012, 04:14 AM #8Originally Posted by Janejja
OP, break down your meals into correct macro's and calories and we'll take a look.
You will need to eat more to retain your gains though not 1000 cals more.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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09-28-2012, 05:18 AM #9New Member
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09-28-2012, 05:30 AM #10Originally Posted by Janejja
1. Your caloric intake VS your caloric need.
2. Your energy macro's
^^^^i read it right. You said it doesn't matter what you eat. And you refer to energy macro's and calories!
No reference to protein or macro split. Maybe it's you who needs the specs!!!!NO SOURCES GIVEN
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09-28-2012, 07:24 AM #11New Member
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Stop being retarded! Energy macros = macro split, which includes protein, carbs and fat. Speaking of calories and energy is the same thing. Calories is just a measurement of the amount of energy. You need to stop wasting the OPs time with moronic posts and get back to science class!
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09-28-2012, 07:34 AM #12
I'll tell you what, if you are 8% bodyfat and that small, obviously more food. If you give them more details they can help you out with ways to do this properly and make sure you are getting enough protein which is the big debate of this thread, although everyone agrees you need a certain amount of it, but people are fighting over specifics and how somehting was worded lol.
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09-28-2012, 07:52 AM #13Originally Posted by Janejja
At least I'm not a retarded imbecile that thinks a 15 week test prop cycle is a good idea, let alone with your suggested PCT. good luck with that!!!!!!!!NO SOURCES GIVEN
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09-28-2012, 08:10 AM #14Originally Posted by Janejja;6184***
The fact of the matter is you made a blanket statement, provided little to no detail, and as a result, offered poor advice, IMO. I don't want to jump to conclusions but to be honest you sound like another Alan Aragon parrot. If you have an opinion, post it up here, back it up with some hard evidence, and debate it in a mature manner. Being disrespectful to good standing helpful members won't be tolerated. Appreciate your cooperation.
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09-28-2012, 09:52 AM #15Originally Posted by gettintherequick
Have you altered your training in PCT? No cardio and less lifting (focus on compound moves)!NO SOURCES GIVEN
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09-28-2012, 12:01 PM #16New Member
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Janejja < Do not pay attention to his nonsense
You need to know exactly what you are taking, your macro break down is extremely important to retain gains naturally or not. I learned this the hard way over a fairly long period of time. This is the same to build LBM.
Also, your metabolism has a very big role in this. I do believe there are people that have much higher metabolism than others. It may mean you will have to force feed yourself quite a bit to retain and build LBM.
Your Bf% is excellent also your diet is very lean and hollow. If you want to grow, you will need to completely reevaluate your diet. This does not mean eat more crap, it just means eat more what is needed when is needed. < This is much easier said than done, I know that from experience.
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09-29-2012, 12:48 PM #18New Member
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09-29-2012, 01:13 PM #19Originally Posted by Janejja
I think an apology is in order!
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09-29-2012, 01:20 PM #20
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09-29-2012, 07:51 PM #21
...this thread turned into a brawl
umm... 5yrs of cycling, started at 19yrs old?
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