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09-29-2012, 06:51 PM #1
Is it time to update TDEE stickies?
Original TDEE calculation and (LBM x 15) result in drastically different results. Thoughts?
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09-29-2012, 06:59 PM #2
Maybe. TDEE is always going to be flawed due to aproximations on activity levels, and just general differences in BMR between individuals. LBM x 15 is also going to be flawed for the same reasons. No matter what you do, you are going to have to make adjustments to find true equalibrium to TDEE.
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09-29-2012, 07:02 PM #3
is there a another way to calculate TDEE so that we have more than one option?
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09-29-2012, 07:04 PM #4
some use a 14x or 15x lbm to calculate. but even that is flawed since adjustements are needed. no method will ever be perfect.
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09-29-2012, 07:05 PM #5
There is this method: http://forums.steroid .com/showthread.php?483452-TDEE-Total-Daily-Energy-Expenditure#.UGeaz5jA_wk
And there is LBM x 15
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09-29-2012, 07:07 PM #6
the "LBM X" is also not precise
some use 14, others 15 as the multiplier. but again, adjustments are still necessary to find your own equilibrium point.
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09-29-2012, 07:07 PM #7Banned
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most important variable is choosing the correct activity level, or at least most certainty the one that's most often incorrectly selected. walking your dog once a night for a pee doesn't automatically put you at level 4
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09-29-2012, 07:41 PM #8
^^^ i workout about 5 days per week about 8 hours in total, but i sit behind a desk and therefore i am sedentary! 15 mutlipler is too high for me.
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09-30-2012, 08:24 AM #10Associate Member
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Interesting, I was going with the TDEE from the old sticky, and was around 2700 calories for TDEE, BUT I have been cutting at 1200 to 1600, recently upped to 1700 (reverse taper as I get leaner).
I used the x 15, and x 14 to be very conservative and got 2550 and 2380.
Fortunately even at a lower TDEE of 2380, I'd still be moving in the right direction, losing more than 1 pound of fat a week eating 1700 calories a day.
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09-30-2012, 08:56 AM #11
from the calculations ive done, speaking only for myself, the original TDEE in the sticky (or better the katch.mcardle) always required a deficit of 800-950cals. this approach, while it worked, i dont like because people get too familiar with gaining comfort with an extremely high deficit. in reality i dont believe the deficit was actually that great (800-950cals) but thats what u had to set it at to see progress. the reason being is the activity multiplier IMO was set too high.
using the katch/mcardle formula and LBM x 15 i compared the 2 and figured out for myself LBM x 15 was closer and the multiplier i had to use with katch to get it to match (LBM x 15) was 1.26 NOT 1.55
LBM x 15 is the easiest and, IMO if anything, is going to err to the side of being a touch low on average. this i believe to be better than erring to the side of high.
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