When does the body count all calories ?

**the.muscled.lawyer** · 11-12-2012, 03:15 AM

Hi !

we undoubtedly know that if we get more calories than we can burn, we got fat !

and if we get less calories than our metabolism consume, we lose fat !

But when does the body count it ? during our sleep ?

When does the body count all the calories swallowed and the calories burned ?

and what if I don't sleep at all ?

Thank you

Sorry for my english level !

**krugerr** · 11-12-2012, 03:24 AM

Nice question, I'll be interested to see what the experts say!

All I do know is that the body tends to work in real-time. It doesn't consider time as a factor, time is a human concept.

**baseline_9** · 11-12-2012, 03:30 AM

It doesnt exactly work like that...

It is more of a 24+ hour thing... It's an overall phase of negative or positive calories that influence weight gain or loss...

However with IF'ing becoming more popular there is more and more to support that we can break this down into smaller periods (within a day)..

It really doesn't matter tho, your over thinking this one

**--->>405<<---** · 11-12-2012, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

It doesnt exactly work like that...

It is more of a 24+ hour thing... It's an overall phase of negative or positive calories that influence weight gain or loss...

However with IF'ing becoming more popular there is more and more to support that we can break this down into smaller periods (within a day)..

It really doesn't matter tho, your over thinking this one

yeh base im doing just that rite now with pretty good success thus far. eating about 3000cals one day then 1000-1200 the next. along with an 8hr fast im dropping fat pretty good and getting stronger..

**gbrice75** · 11-12-2012, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by the.muscled.lawyer

Hi !

we undoubtedly know that if we get more calories than we can burn, we got fat !

and if we get less calories than our metabolism consume, we lose fat !

But when does the body count it ? during our sleep ?

Definitely not!!! Well, not exclusively. Our bodies are constantly breaking down and rebuilding, all throughout the day and night. When we say we're eating a hypercaloric (or hypocaloric for that matter) diet, it's kind of a misnomer. For the most part it's true, although there will be times when the opposite is true. i.e. if I'm cutting and therefore eating in a caloric deficit, there are still very likely times of the day where I'm 'over maintenance' for that given time. Your body will use what it can to repair tissue (among multitudes of other functions), and the remainder if any will be stored as glycogen. Anything beyond that will be stored as bodyfat.

It's confusing for newcomers to grasp the concept, but all you really need to concern yourself with is consistency. If you remain disciplined, you will reach your goal and beyond.

**the.muscled.lawyer** · 11-12-2012, 11:57 AM

and another question ;

Is this true that an overconsumption of proteins can turn into fat ?

I read that on the web but I have to admit that I somewhat in berwilderment...

**Until_It_Sleeps** · 11-12-2012, 12:06 PM

The count happens at exactly 8:05 PM in your time zone. Brace yourself...

**the.muscled.lawyer** · 11-12-2012, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Until_It_Sleeps

The count happens at exactly 8:05 PM in your time zone. Brace yourself...

don't make me laugh, you re not funny at all....

**Until_It_Sleeps** · 11-12-2012, 12:21 PM

Guess I'll just have to fall back on my charming good looks.

**gbrice75** · 11-12-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by the.muscled.lawyer

and another question ;

Is this true that an overconsumption of proteins can turn into fat ?

I read that on the web but I have to admit that I somewhat in berwilderment...

Overconsumption of calories can be stored as fat, regardless of the macro nutrient. Having said that, protein is the least likely for obvious reasons (i.e. it's many other uses). Fat is most likely (big surprise - although that does NOT mean fat is bad!!!), and carbs are always the X factor.

Originally Posted by Until_It_Sleeps

The count happens at exactly 8:05 PM in your time zone. Brace yourself...

Bahahaha!! I guess my genetics are fcked... happens at 8:07pm for me.

**JohnnyVegas** · 11-12-2012, 02:21 PM

You know what? I have noticed that my body does its count in the evening. I always look sloppy in the evening, then I lose four pounds overnight and wake up all tight and looking good.

But seriously, the body does these things in real time. It is constantly doing its job and either storing extra calories as future fuel or burning stores if it needs energy. We break it down into a 24 hour period so it is easier to plan, but the body deals with it second by second.

**the.muscled.lawyer** · 11-13-2012, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

You know what? I have noticed that my body does its count in the evening. I always look sloppy in the evening, then I lose four pounds overnight and wake up all tight and looking good.

But seriously, the body does these things in real time. It is constantly doing its job and either storing extra calories as future fuel or burning stores if it needs energy. We break it down into a 24 hour period so it is easier to plan, but the body deals with it second by second.

you mean every time we eat something, the body process it by estimating if our stock are depleted or not ? so it basically means that we must constantly lack energy ?

**JohnnyVegas** · 11-13-2012, 03:04 PM

I mean that the body is always running its processes. Here is my rudimentary understanding:

It needs energy to operate and protein for repair. Food digests slowly and carbs and amino acids are constantly being released (until there is no more food to digest). The body takes what it needs as it needs it, if it is available. It can always pull energy (glycogen) that is stored in muscle if none is readily available. Same with protein/aminos. If the body sees that your glycogen stores are full, it will take the energy and store it as fat. If we start to use energy over an extended amount of time, the body will conserve its glycogen stores and start pulling from fat.

The body does this every second of every day, so we are in a constant flux of being over or under fed, but it all balances out over a period of time.

I will not be offended if someone corrects me. I am trying to explain as best I understand it, but there are others with a much better understanding. Gbrice did some 'splaining above.

**the.muscled.lawyer** · 11-14-2012, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

I mean that the body is always running its processes. Here is my rudimentary understanding:

It needs energy to operate and protein for repair. Food digests slowly and carbs and amino acids are constantly being released (until there is no more food to digest). The body takes what it needs as it needs it, if it is available. It can always pull energy (glycogen) that is stored in muscle if none is readily available. Same with protein/aminos. If the body sees that your glycogen stores are full, it will take the energy and store it as fat. If we start to use energy over an extended amount of time, the body will conserve its glycogen stores and start pulling from fat.

The body does this every second of every day, so we are in a constant flux of being over or under fed, but it all balances out over a period of time.

I will not be offended if someone corrects me. I am trying to explain as best I understand it, but there are others with a much better understanding. Gbrice did some 'splaining above.

that was what I understood.

Thanks !

On the other hand, I read that an excess of protein can never be stored as fat...

**digsy1983** · 11-14-2012, 04:04 AM

Is muscle glycogen not locked in the muscle until it's used up by the muscle itself? I was under the impression it was none transferable.

Too much of anything will be stored as fat, if it's useful to the body it will use it if it can or store it for future use as fat.

**gbrice75** · 11-14-2012, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by the.muscled.lawyer

that was what I understood.

Thanks !

On the other hand, I read that an excess of protein can never be stored as fat...

False

Originally Posted by digsy1983

Is muscle glycogen not locked in the muscle until it's used up by the muscle itself? I was under the impression it was none transferable.

Non-transferrable as in not being useful anywhere else but by the muscle itself? This isn't the case. The body will use up glycogen stores, both liver and muscle, whenever present.

**digsy1983** · 11-14-2012, 11:04 AM

Yeah I thought it was locked into that specific muscle. Oh well, GB and his 'keyboard of truth' dispel another wrong comment!

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 11-16-2012, 02:27 AM

The body is just a network of sensors and feedback mechanisms. The "counting" you refer two basically boils down to your body detecting blood sugar levels and how your body reacts to that. If you restrict carbs, blood sugar drops, your body turns to metabolizing fat or protein into glucose. If that fat/protein is from your adipose and muscle reserves, you become catabolic. If that fat/protein comes from your food, then whatever is left unused gets stored, even if it isnt carb.