Dirty bulk for 2 years

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 09:18 AM

18 years old have chrons disease, any suggestions for dirty bulk? What exercises should I stick to most? Is cardio a must?

Btw I have 'heard' drinking 1 litre of milk a day is a good way to start

**Back In Black** · 03-31-2013, 09:29 AM

At 17 you are too young for this site and will likely have your membership suspended.

Until then, tell us what your physician/dietician has said?

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

At 17 you are too young for this site and will likely have your membership suspended.

Until then, tell us what your physician/dietician has said?

I meant 18 I

**Back In Black** · 03-31-2013, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

I meant 18 I

You have a habit of hitting that7 instead of 8!

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 09:35 AM

Because I'm on iPhone and in portrait mode that's why I keep making spelling mistakes

**--->>405<<---** · 03-31-2013, 11:10 AM

I have a suggestion for a dirty bulk: dont do it.

Why not use good quality food choices?

**GirlyGymRat** · 03-31-2013, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

I have a suggestion for a dirty bulk: dont do it.

Why not use good quality food choices?

Seems the guys and gals that use dirty bulk only do it once!

**BUTTERYGOODNESS** · 03-31-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

Seems the guys and gals that use dirty bulk only do it once!

I've been there man keep it clean and save yourself

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 05:55 PM

Hmmm haha arggg it's hard to find food with heaps of cals that is clean man! Sany suggestions of the some good high cal meals with chicken? SAUSAGES BARBIQUE YAYAYAY

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Hmmm haha arggg it's hard to find food with heaps of cals that is clean man! Sany suggestions of the some good high cal meals with chicken? SAUSAGES BARBIQUE YAYAYAY

Why do u need HEAPS of cals? What's ur stats?

-TroN-

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by BUTTERYGOODNESS

I've been there man keep it clean and save yourself

That wasnt a dirty bulk, that's called lazy! :P

-TroN-

**MuscleInk** · 03-31-2013, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Hmmm haha arggg it's hard to find food with heaps of cals that is clean man! Sany suggestions of the some good high cal meals with chicken? SAUSAGES BARBIQUE YAYAYAY

That's absolutely untrue. You just have to look and learn. The nutrition forum here has great members with loads of advice on how to bulk cleanly. There is no reason to dirty bulk. It's laziness. There are also threads here you can find on bulking for hard gainers. There are also recipe references like The Anabolic Cookbook.

You just have to use the space between your ears, look, listen, and read. There are numerous resources if you spend the time looking and this forum is one of the best resources.

MuscleInk

**--->>405<<---** · 03-31-2013, 06:16 PM

ground beef, steak, chikn breast, eggs, fish, pork tenderloin, cottage cheese, milk, yogurt

oats, rice, whole wheat pasta, beans, whole wheat bread

apples, oranges, bananas, blueberries, strawberries, grapes, kiwi, mango

spinach, brussel sprouts, tomato, onion, bell peppers, lettuce, squash, corn, cucumber, zucchini, okra

peanut butter, avocado, walnuts, almonds, EVOO, coconut oil

the list goes on dude..

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

ground beef, steak, chikn breast, eggs, fish, pork tenderloin, cottage cheese, milk, yogurt

oats, rice, whole wheat pasta, beans, whole wheat bread

apples, oranges, bananas, blueberries, strawberries, grapes, kiwi, mango

spinach, brussel sprouts, tomato, onion, bell peppers, lettuce, squash, corn, cucumber, zucchini, okra

peanut butter, avocado, walnuts, almonds, EVOO, coconut oil

the list goes on dude..

Shrimp gumbo, shrimp kabob, shrimp scampi......

-TroN-

**--->>405<<---** · 03-31-2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Shrimp gumbo, shrimp kabob, shrimp scampi......

-TroN-

LOL..

u can boil it, grill it, broil it.. sautee it..

shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp samwich, shrimp and potatoes..

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 06:50 PM

Thanks guys I really appreciate this! I'm glad I have such an active forum with knowledgable people! THANKS!

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 06:51 PM

Ad to bee cause when u bulk you need a fair amount of excess cals?

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Ad to bee cause when u bulk you need a fair amount of excess cals?

U only want 500-700 over ur tdee. Otherwise ur just gaining excess fat.

What t ur stats?

-TroN-

**MuscleInk** · 03-31-2013, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Ad to bee cause when u bulk you need a fair amount of excess cals?

Certainly in excess of your TDEE. If you are eating at or below your maintenance calories, you won't gain.

MuscleInk

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 07:18 PM

Yeah but I'm so pissed I lost everything that's why I'm so keen and desperate to get it back loosing 20kg is not fun when everyone starts teasing u and calling you skinny because you went from someone who had a good body to some skinny muther f***** who is UN aesthetic

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Yeah but I'm so pissed I lost everything that's why I'm so keen and desperate to get it back loosing 20kg is not fun when everyone starts teasing u and calling you skinny because you went from someone who had a good body to some skinny muther f***** who is UN aesthetic

If u do a dirty bulk you'll just b fat and UN aesthetic

-TroN-

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 07:36 PM

Look, u can do whatever u want, it's ur life and we don't care either way. You can take advice from those that have done what u wanna do and say it doesn't pan out or u can do a dirty bulk, which is just that. Dirty, empty calories.

-TroN-

**--->>405<<---** · 03-31-2013, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Why do u need HEAPS of cals? What's ur stats?

-TroN-

have we gotten these??

age weight height bf%??

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 07:48 PM

I was 75kg when I was training then went down to 55kg, I'm not being a dick I appreciate the advice! Height 5'7

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

I was 75kg when I was training then went down to 55kg, I'm not being a dick I appreciate the advice! Height 5'7

Bf%

-TroN-

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 07:55 PM

Not sure about bf right now I'm not fat but I'm not muscley

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Not sure about bf right now I'm not fat but I'm not muscley

Well we need and idea to give u advice. Post a picture. relaxed, ankles to neck, no shirt

-TroN-

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 08:02 PM

Alright but don't laugh

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Alright but don't laugh

We don't care, we applaud you for doing something about it.

-TroN-

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 08:15 PM

I went from that to the one in pink shorts.

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 08:25 PM

I'd say maybe 15% ish. Idk, 405 can u help me out here? It's hard for me to tell. If 15% is about right then...

55kg (121lbs) x .85 = 46.75 (103lbs) lbm

103 x 15 = 1545 cal

1545 + 500 = 2045 cals

U should eat about 2045 cals to be in an excess of 500 cals. CLEAN FOOD

-TroN-

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 08:30 PM

Oh wow, thank you! See how embarrassed I am for this poor excuse for a body Hahahaha! Hmm I can split that between 4 meals!

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Oh wow, thank you! See how embarrassed I am for this poor excuse for a body Hahahaha! Hmm I can split that between 4 meals!

I've seen worse. And yeah u can split it in 4 meals. That's two if mine

-TroN-

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 08:44 PM

Faurrk 2? Hahaha strong cals! Thanks for this mate I appreciate it, I have an UN opened mass gainer which has 1200 cals per serve worth it man? Or just stick to whey?

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

Faurrk 2? Hahaha strong cals! Thanks for this mate I appreciate it, I have an UN opened mass gainer which has 1200 cals per serve worth it man? Or just stick to whey?

Stick with food. U should be able to get 2100 cals VERY easily from food.

I had a gf with crones. Is there anything u can't eat?

-TroN-

**increasedTest** · 03-31-2013, 09:27 PM

I haven't come across anything I can't have as of yet so I'm lucky! Just I can't eat to much red meat :/

**Tron3219** · 03-31-2013, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by increasedTest

I haven't come across anything I can't have as of yet so I'm lucky! Just I can't eat to much red meat :/

Alright so complex carbs don't affect u? My ex gf couldn't digest dairy or complex carbs correctly.

Well I think ur split should b 50% protein, 30% carbs, 20% fats. Adjust from there.

-TroN-