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04-25-2013, 01:06 AM #1
Eat & sleep
Have my meals planed out but was wondering if sleep is just as important as eating, I have a very hard time getting to sleep and was wondering if any one knows if taking pills or whatever that put you to sleep take away with any of the benefits.
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04-25-2013, 01:08 AM #2
Rest is as important as eating!
Get at least 8hours/night.
Try to take some magnesium/zinc/b6 before bed.
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04-25-2013, 07:57 AM #3
Just like training and nutrition, rest/sleep is part of the equation. If one of the 3 is lacking, results will usually be sub-optimal.
Unfortunately, due to my schedule, I get 6 hours a night, and that's on a GOOD night. Further, they're usually not 6 uninterrupted hours (I tend to wake up, very alert, right in the middle of the night/early morning). As a result, I believe my progress has suffered immensely.
What kind of pills are you thinking about taking?
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04-25-2013, 08:03 AM #4Originally Posted by gbrice75
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04-25-2013, 08:08 AM #5
L-tryptophan is touted as being a natural assist for sleep. You can buy it in tablet form or eat a food with it in eg turkey or warm milk.
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04-25-2013, 08:11 AM #6
I take tryptophan and it really improved my sleep! Its a relaxing essential amino acid. It also helps with good mood en decreases stress. I really notice a difference in my sleep when i dont take it. All my sups are from scitec nutrition but other brands will work too.
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04-25-2013, 08:34 AM #7
Look into Schiff Melatonin Plus as well, some come packed with other 'ingredients' (theanine, etc) that are supposed to help.
http://www.amazon.com/Schiff-Melaton...m/B000FCEB2G/2
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04-25-2013, 08:48 AM #8
If you were to look at the 3 things we talk about most as far as being required to grow as a bodybuilder, eating, sleeping and training.... The sleep is the least important part of that equation....
I'm not saying its important, it is... I'm saying that the other two things are more important if your goals are to gain LBM....
Have you tried eating a large meal and having a how shower late at night?
Are you limiting your carbs at night?
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04-25-2013, 09:23 AM #9Originally Posted by gbrice75
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04-25-2013, 09:41 AM #10
Melatonin and 5-htp. Natural and available at most pharmacies and grocery stores. You should know however with these sleep aids and others you have a 'window of opportunity' that is usually only about 20-40 minutes to get to bed.
My 2 cents..
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04-25-2013, 09:44 AM #11
Didn't know you were in contest prep. This raises the question Baseline asked earlier (and I assume the answer will be yes) - are you limiting/cutting out carbs in the evening?
Also, have you ever looked into GABA?
gamma-Aminobutyric acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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04-25-2013, 12:31 PM #12Originally Posted by gbrice75
I've never heard of GABA, definitely something i will look in to! Thanks!!
I have to add, i like your work on here! Today i came by your thread with all the questions and i'm hooked! Gained a lot of info! Unfortunately had limited time so got to page 3, the rest i will read later! thumbs up mate!!
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04-25-2013, 12:42 PM #13
Ahh, ok... show already happened, thought you were still in prep. What was it - bodybuilding? Physique? How'd you place?
Same here. But with doubling carbs, you're still unable to sleep? How was sleep throughout contest prep? How about before that?
Nice - what do you use, coconut oil, or something else?
I guess it could, but if you were sleeping fine (on a relatively 'normal' carb intake) prior, then had the contest, now back to 'normal' carbs but can't sleep, it's probably something else. Anxiety?
I've never heard of GABA, definitely something i will look in to! Thanks!!
Awesome, thanks brother!
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04-25-2013, 01:35 PM #14
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04-25-2013, 02:05 PM #15
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04-25-2013, 02:26 PM #16Originally Posted by gbrice75
On stage i weight 95,5kg, now i'm back at 104. Im 1.80m tall. Went really deep and felt like shit that day! Also the show had some delay, so i had been without water for more than 24 hours! When i came of stage, i had no need for food, the only thing i needed was water! Haha afterwards got a milkshake
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04-25-2013, 02:32 PM #17
Agree w/ the bold, bigtime. In fact, most bodybuilders, at least in my experience, are pretty dumb, lol. Always good to see young bodybuilder's like yourself who have the thirst for knowledge, besides your own progress. I will make one suggestion though: seeing as you've done so well thus far, I wouldn't personally get *too* caught up in the science; obviously, whatever you've been doing has worked as you have an excellent physique (would love to see non-comp pics if you have em)... sometimes all this science can be counter productive as I see guys spending more time talking/arguing about training and nutrition rather than actually getting into the gym and kitchen and DOING something.
lol... a milkshake, eh? Can't blame ya - although along with that, I think I'd be having a huge bacon cheeseburger and fries.
You have a great attitude brother, I hope you stick around here.
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04-25-2013, 02:43 PM #18
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04-25-2013, 02:45 PM #19
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04-25-2013, 02:52 PM #20
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04-25-2013, 02:57 PM #21Originally Posted by gbrice75
You cant imagine how many times ive been on google converting the pounds and inches to kgs en meters
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04-25-2013, 03:02 PM #22Originally Posted by gbrice75
And u would think i would grave a cheeseburger or something, but i tried the shitload pre contest some of the members here explained really well and i have to say, when i came of stage, the thought of it made me sick haha some fluids were all i needed!
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04-25-2013, 03:03 PM #23Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman
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04-25-2013, 03:06 PM #24Originally Posted by kelkel
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04-25-2013, 04:06 PM #25Originally Posted by barrybulkers
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04-25-2013, 04:23 PM #26Originally Posted by Hulking2016
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04-25-2013, 04:30 PM #27
Looking great man. Keep it up and welcome aboard!
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04-25-2013, 04:46 PM #28Originally Posted by austinite
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04-26-2013, 12:25 AM #29
Mate you look great, can't believe you are only 24
Belgian or Dutch you speak/write better English than most people hereNO SOURCES GIVEN
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04-26-2013, 03:36 AM #30Originally Posted by Back In Black
And i guess thats the convenience of an iphone with an english keyboard and spell check lol
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04-26-2013, 07:45 AM #31
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