Should I clean bulk?

[Portcityjbird]

Should i clean bulk?I feel i should clean bulk for about a year so i can lean down to a little bit more than what i have.because i don't want to jump on aas until i have got a good base.if you could give me your advice thanks! !!!!!

185lbs
5'10
2700 cals
180-190 pro
75-90 fat
Fill in the carbs

Cardio in the am
Lift in the pm
The damn app want let me post a pic ill try later

[cj111]

How long have you been training? Consistantly

[Portcityjbird]

Since 2010 but it has been in a cal deficit..trying to lose weight.i was 225 at one point.and i drank every weekend and lift all week so it took s long time to lose but now i see i wasn't putting on no muscle i want to but lean as possible and cut down to something better later

[Portcityjbird]

Me in October

[GirlyGymRat]

Seems most guys prefer the clean bulk approach

Btw you have made a lot of progress!

[Portcityjbird]

Thanks but the ones above are more recent..

[alex.mitev]

you definitely should not clean bulk. You have had great progress indeed. you should shed some more bf but not much, which means drastic initial approach could be beneficial.
Hit the cardio for 1 hour a day 6xweek, set protein 1.25 per lb = 231 gr in your case, fats 50 gr no more, moderate carbs (200 gr is good) that`s around 2200. Do this for straight 3 weeks and you`d not recognize yourself. Then start adding 50 gr of complex carbs every 2-3 weeks. Your insulin sensitivity will be improved and thereby calorie partitioning.

[Gaspaco]

Me in October

Nice progress buddy!

[Portcityjbird]

you definitely should not clean bulk. You have had great progress indeed. you should shed some more bf but not much, which means drastic initial approach could be beneficial.
Hit the cardio for 1 hour a day 6xweek, set protein 1.25 per lb = 231 gr in your case, fats 50 gr no more, moderate carbs (200 gr is good) that`s around 2200. Do this for straight 3 weeks and you`d not recognize yourself. Then start adding 50 gr of complex carbs every 2-3 weeks. Your insulin sensitivity will be improved and thereby calorie partitioning.

What about lifting?I usually do 30 min in the am on empty stomach and lift about an hour in the pm

[Portcityjbird]

I got the diet down to
52g fat
172g carb
217g pro
1950 cal

Will i still burn fat with these macros?
When should i start bulking?
And can i take creatine while im cutting?

[Gaspaco]

I got the diet down to
52g fat
172g carb
217g pro
1950 cal

Will i still burn fat with these macros?
When should i start bulking?
And can i take creatine while im cutting?

If your TDEE is around 2400-500 than yes.

You can take creatine during cut.

[cj111]

I usually do 30 min in the am on empty stomach

Save yourself the hassle and do your cardio in the evening after your workout

[Portcityjbird]

Does it make a difference my wife likes to run in the morning

[cj111]

No but if you were expecting extra fat loss due to running on an empty stomach its not worth it. Anything is better than nothing, also you ever do HIT for cardio? Instead of just running?

[alex.mitev]

Whats important is getting cardio done, not when.
And with those calories u have, i suggest you skip the p

[alex.mitev]

Skipbthe adding slowly carbs in part, and go directly to your re-evaluated mnts. With cals that low u dont want to prolong the deficit and supposedly loose muscle

[Portcityjbird]

Well not really hiit i will walk @3 on the 10 incline for a few mins then run @6 on 1 incline for a few mins for the whole 30 mins

[Portcityjbird]

Skipbthe adding slowly carbs in part, and go directly to your re-evaluated mnts. With cals that low u dont want to prolong the deficit and supposedly loose muscle

So you say when im done cutting just jump strait back to maintenance

[alex.mitev]

Yes, sorry on phone now thus cannot elaborate

[alex.mitev]

So you say when im done cutting just jump strait back to maintenance

Yes, IMO you should jump back to maintenance. But remember, your TDEE would be altered as you would have lost some weight (depends on you what kind of weight).
I know big caloric deficit are not good but sometimes could be useful tool. My rationale is when an individual wants to gain muscle tissue but have just a tad more body fat than necessary, 2-3 weeks of all out dieting and cardio might work wonders. Those initial weeks are the ones that work the most in terms of seeing your body shedding fat.
In your particular case, you do not hold that much fat but is yet high enough not to start bulking after all.

Going back to maintenance will offset any possible metabolic adaptation leaving you with right circumstances to re-assess where you are and where you`d like to be at.