Need to drop bofy fat

[edlover]

I've had much success with Atkins in the past. My BF as of today is shown below. In my previous experience Atkins is a diuretic in it of it self and helps flush the body and eliminates drastically the water retention.

37yrs 6' feet tall
BF: 30.1

Currently running primo at 600-wk w test at 3300-wk.

[edlover]

[QUOTE="edlover"]I've had much success with Atkins in the past. My BF as of today is shown below. In my previous experience Atkins is a diuretic in it of it self and helps flush the body and eliminates drastically the water retention.

37yrs 6' feet tall
BF: 30.1

Currently running primo at 600-wk w test E at 300wk

Any suggestions

[austinite]

Cool. Ketosis mode only works for so long. But it's a good "kick-start" diet for ridding yourself of fat. Not a healthy long term diet

[edlover]

Thanks Austinite some of the guys think I'm nuts for starting a cycle with such high BF.
So I had two choices stop the cycle or drop the BF the fasted way I know how.

[austinite]

Thanks Austinite some of the guys think I'm nuts for starting a cycle with such high BF.
So I had two choices stop the cycle or drop the BF the fasted way I know how.

lol. Well... I was referring to the diet. As for the cycle... yes, you're nuts! Not ideal at all.

[edlover]

So I have been dropping fat left and right looking leaner and more muscular. Will post all my new stats and protocol shortly.

[MRNJ1992]

Stay away from the T if your looking to get leaner. If not, you will raise your BF.......

[edlover]

Stay away from the T if your looking to get leaner. If not, you will raise your BF.......

Really? Even if diet is on point and running Prop you think this will delay fat burning process.

[MRNJ1992]

From personal experience, T always tends to add BF especially if your body is on the bulkier side. Jusy FYI-Before I started HRT I weighed about 200. 5 months later Im at 233. Im training harder and added more cardio. My eating habits are pretty clean. Everyone reacts different. Not sure what your goals are, but if your looking to lean out I personally would stay away from T unless you were diagnosed with low T. You'll find alot of guys here with great knowledge. Good Luck

[austinite]

^ What exactly is the science behind this?

[crazy mike]

^ What exactly is the science behind this?

You are a trip austinite. lmaso ...cm

[edlover]

Seem to be stuck at 260 and 25% BF. weight is irrelevant because I have made reasonable gains. Can some suggest how I establish what my macros should be?

[tripmachine]

Stay away from the T if your looking to get leaner. If not, you will raise your BF.......

I STRONGLY disagree.... lol. Actually I KNOW you are completely wrong. Sorry for being bluntly honest.. :]

[gbrice75]

Stay away from the T if your looking to get leaner. If not, you will raise your BF.......

Really? Even if diet is on point and running Prop you think this will delay fat burning process.

I STRONGLY disagree.... lol. Actually I KNOW you are completely wrong. Sorry for being bluntly honest.. :]

If you put on a bunch of bodyfat, I'd look at your 'clean' diet as the culprit before testosterone . If anything, test will speed up the rate at which you can burn bodyfat as it increases feed efficiency (i.e. nutrient partitioning). As with any other diet, your results will be dictated to the largest degree by overall caloric intake, and to a lesser degree (IMHO) by food choices, nutrient timing, etc.

[cruzetor]

ketosis is a great way to begin burning bodyfat, i highly recomend keto

[edlover]

Thanks guys i keep debating Atkins vs Paleo.

Paleo is a little more inclusive with simple carbs. Atkins is more restrictive but allows dairy. However Atkins seems less healthy with more strain on the kidneys and heart. Please weigh in guys.

[baseline_9]

Thanks guys i keep debating Atkins vs Paleo.

Paleo is a little more inclusive with simple carbs. Atkins is more restrictive but allows dairy. However Atkins seems less healthy with more strain on the kidneys and heart. Please weigh in guys.

Stop over thinking it....

Just follow a standard cutting diet, hit ur macros each day and loose bodyfat.....simple... Forget this keto and paleo shit....

[baseline_9]

Seem to be stuck at 260 and 25% BF. weight is irrelevant because I have made reasonable gains. Can some suggest how I establish what my macros should be?

Ur LBM is around 195lbs.... Mtnce is approx 2925 cals.... I'd put u at about 2425 and as you to burn another 250 cals per day or 1750 cals per week via cardio....

Protein at 1g/lb of LBM = 200g - 800 cals (for ease)
Fat at 0.35g/lb of LBM = 68g - 612 cals
Carbs (remainder) = 253g - 1012 cals


That's all just cookie cutter numbers but they are numbers at least

[edlover]

Thanks baseline thats seems simple enough. Carbs seem high from my limited experience so my question will be does it matter where they come from or should The bulk of the carbs be simple carbs.

[baseline_9]

Thanks baseline thats seems simple enough. Carbs seem high from my limited experience so my question will be does it matter where they come from or should The bulk of the carbs be simple carbs.

It doesn't matter...

Hit 30g fibre a day and eat whatever u want withing ur planned macros

[dreadnok89]

From personal experience, T always tends to add BF especially if your body is on the bulkier side. Jusy FYI-Before I started HRT I weighed about 200. 5 months later Im at 233. Im training harder and added more cardio. My eating habits are pretty clean. Everyone reacts different. Not sure what your goals are, but if your looking to lean out I personally would stay away from T unless you were diagnosed with low T. You'll find alot of guys here with great knowledge. Good Luck

Wait he might have half a point. I got my t levels normal and dropped 50 pounds and gotten leaner. I know dudes doing 600 test a week who look atrocious and fat. Higher estrogen and bloatedness could be the culprit. But maybe too much T has a weight effect?

[dreadnok89]

Ur LBM is around 195lbs.... Mtnce is approx 2925 cals.... I'd put u at about 2425 and as you to burn another 250 cals per day or 1750 cals per week via cardio....

Protein at 1g/lb of LBM = 200g - 800 cals (for ease)
Fat at 0.35g/lb of LBM = 68g - 612 cals
Carbs (remainder) = 253g - 1012 cals


That's all just cookie cutter numbers but they are numbers at least

Is this for a day? And do any stickies have a diet that would work with that plan?

[gearbox]

Wait he might have half a point. I got my t levels normal and dropped 50 pounds and gotten leaner. I know dudes doing 600 test a week who look atrocious and fat. Higher estrogen and bloatedness could be the culprit. But maybe too much T has a weight effect?

As said above ppl react differently but a standard t you should not hold more then 5 lbs extra water imo. But ime I hold more water as I increase the t towards 1 gram.

[gearbox]

Is this for a day? And do any stickies have a diet that would work with that plan?

Yes. This is throughout the day each day. Baseline was nice enough to give you solid macros (break down of protein fats carbs)

[baseline_9]

Is this for a day? And do any stickies have a diet that would work with that plan?

There are loads of examples of what people eat all over this section.... Have a scan....

I won't recommend food choices because it doesn't matter... So long as your 'crossing your T's & doting your I's'.... Point being 2 vege, 2 fruit, 25+g fiber per day and then it's an open field, so have fun

[Pittsburgh412]

Thanks Austinite some of the guys think I'm nuts for starting a cycle with such high BF.
So I had two choices stop the cycle or drop the BF the fasted way I know how.

Im in the same boat lol, I'm like 30% ish (judging from pictures) and 5'11, 295 (minus like 10 for water weight)

[edlover]

Im in the same boat lol, I'm like 30% ish (judging from pictures) and 5'11, 295 (minus like 10 for water weight)

So are you currently on cycle?